Speed PPC software - yah or nay?

by roley
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Thinking about it, is it worth it? honestly.....
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  • Profile picture of the author fm1234
    Costs way too much imo. Many of the features can be duplicated with a spreadsheet; there are also competing options that are open source and free such as PPCgen (I don't know what updates SpeedPPC has come out with in the last year, but as of last summer when I compared the two PPCgen pretty much owned SpeedPPC, and the former is free.)


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    • Profile picture of the author Johnson Tay
      I just saved you $500

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      • Profile picture of the author enrich
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        I got it and asked for a refund. Its incredibly complicated to use if you ask me. I had to have a lie down after reading the user manual.
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        • Profile picture of the author roley
          Originally Posted by enrich View Post

          I got it and asked for a refund. Its incredibly complicated to use if you ask me. I had to have a lie down after reading the user manual.
          really that bad?
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      • Profile picture of the author roley
        Originally Posted by Johnson Tay View Post

        I just saved you $500

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        $500 saved? where ?

        This is $147 does it do everything Speed PPC does?
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      • Profile picture of the author roley
        Originally Posted by Johnson Tay View Post

        I just saved you $500

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        So does this do everything speedppc does?

        Also i just downloaded PPCgen is that the same as speedppc? if so ppcgen is free
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      costs way too much? I guess, but It paid for itself overnight when I used for the first time.

      Originally Posted by fm1234 View Post

      Costs way too much imo. Many of the features can be duplicated with a spreadsheet; there are also competing options that are open source and free such as PPCgen (I don't know what updates SpeedPPC has come out with in the last year, but as of last summer when I compared the two PPCgen pretty much owned SpeedPPC, and the former is free.)


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  • Profile picture of the author ppcninja
    Originally Posted by roley View Post

    Thinking about it, is it worth it? honestly.....
    Speedppc is useful if you have a plan before using it.

    You need to define your campaign on paper before using speed ppc.

    you have to figure out all your root , and seed keywords....

    It is complicated, but worth it if you are going to roll out a huge "pre planned" campaign.

    the way it works, in simple terms is you define root keywords , like:
    rootbeer
    pepsi
    coke
    sprite

    then you define seed keywords, like:
    buy
    purchase
    drink
    discount

    then it combines everything like:

    buy rootbeer, buy pepsi
    drink rootbeer, drink pepsi,

    etc.

    they have some pretty cool pre-made seed lists.

    I bought it about 3 months ago, and used it a handful of times, for the most part I use my own custom tools to format data for big ppc dumps.

    hope that makes some sense

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  • Profile picture of the author fm1234
    Right, and just to add the obvious to that -- all SpeedPPC does is make longtails out of your input. Any decent PHP/MySQL coder could roll his own in a few hours or less of work (*NOTE I am not familiar with current SpeedPPC vs. last summer or so and maybe they came out with all kinds of neat stuff since then.) A coder off of GetAFreeLancer could whip you one up for pennies, if you don't have the skill, or you could use PPCgen which is free if you can find it (the owners of SpeedPPC actually went bullying the coder of PPCgen when he brought it out [claiming it was so similar it had been reverse engineered or something like that, don't recall the specifics] so he took it down -- copies are around here and there though.)

    So ... for what it does, $500 is a serious sucker price. You give it data and it combines Row A... with Column A... to create combos like AA AB AC AD BA BB BC BD CA CB CC CD DA DB DC DD. Not exactly a life-changing paradigm as far as software goes.


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    • Profile picture of the author roley
      Originally Posted by fm1234 View Post

      Right, and just to add the obvious to that -- all SpeedPPC does is make longtails out of your input. Any decent PHP/MySQL coder could roll his own in a few hours or less of work (*NOTE I am not familiar with current SpeedPPC vs. last summer or so and maybe they came out with all kinds of neat stuff since then.) A coder off of GetAFreeLancer could whip you one up for pennies, if you don't have the skill, or you could use PPCgen which is free if you can find it (the owners of SpeedPPC actually went bullying the coder of PPCgen when he brought it out [claiming it was so similar it had been reverse engineered or something like that, don't recall the specifics] so he took it down -- copies are around here and there though.)

      So ... for what it does, $500 is a serious sucker price. You give it data and it combines Row A... with Column A... to create combos like AA AB AC AD BA BB BC BD CA CB CC CD DA DB DC DD. Not exactly a life-changing paradigm as far as software goes.


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      I agree $500 is a lot for a piece of software. I thought speedppc did more than combine keywords, I thought it let you create ads and then it creates more for you and lets you dump it into google?

      They would probably do better if they released a Demo fully working for 30 days for people to use and see if they like

      Also its sad they went bullying others, isnt Allan Gardyne behind this software and his support guy?

      When new things comes out that is too high, people are going to make things cheaper for those who cant afford it
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      • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
        Yes they let you build the ads. Also has export for MSN and yahoo...very powerful tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author crudenbay
    I use SpeedPPC and really like it. Has it been worth it - for sure.

    I bought it when it came out, but left it on the shelf for a long time until a client needed a massive city and zip code campaign. I remembered I had it, and it was a massive timesaver.

    I have built huge campaigns (several thousand adgroups) and had them live in Google within 30-45 mins of starting . Actually uploading them into Google via Adwords editor is what takes the most time!

    Yes, I could find a coder to create the script, but c'mon who has time for that, and what if it goes wrong?

    I looked at PPCtwister that one of the other posters mentioned and that looks good also.

    Yes, you could do this in Excel so it's a matter of how valuable your time is...and each time you do it in Excel, you'd have to check it very carefully to make sure you have all the concatenations right. I've found it easy to make mistakes with there whereas SpeedPPC handles all that for you.

    So I'd recommend getting a tool like this if and only if you plan on doing really large campaigns frequently.
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    • Profile picture of the author fm1234
      Again, I'm not debating whether or not it's useful -- it obviously is. But everything you're gushing about features can be repeated verbatim for any number of other solutions at a fraction of the price (or even free.)

      Look around here and other forums I frequent and I'm often one of the first people you'll find admonishing that aspiring marketers need to bite the bullet and spend some money to make some. But a $500+ script that doesn't really do much of anything is right up there in the same category as $100+ ebooks and keyword tools that query freely available info off of Google and charge a monthly subscription fee.


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      • Profile picture of the author ppcninja
        btw, it works great for cpa campaigns....

        I setup a campaign for Gynecomastia with it.

        "Gynecomastia Texas "
        "Gynecomastia California "
        "Gynecomastia Flordia "

        then broke it down into specific city names,

        all the ads were unique,

        2 hours of planning on paper + spped ppc = few $100 per day.

        it seems really complicated at first. you definitely need to spend some time figuring it all out... i have a programming background and I still had to watch their tutorial videos , and i hate tutorial videos.....

        if your going to buy it because "this adwords stuff is hard" - DONT

        but if you are experienced with PPC, have some campaigns up and running, and want to make things more "tight" , and "modular" then go and buy it!

        it is possibly totally useless for any "content network " stuff...... i created my own app, based on speedppc , specific to the content network......

        anyway, i hope my ramble helps.


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  • Profile picture of the author erikko
    my idea is simple. if you have the money, buy it because it will help you optimize your PPC campaigns
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    • Profile picture of the author David Neale
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      I suggest you review these before spending that much money. You may still decide to purchase SpeedPPC is for you but you review the above two items.

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      • Profile picture of the author Rita
        Do not buy PPCTwister. Owner sol;d the software and others and there is no support. You will only loose the monety
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    it save to used this software?...will you be banned?....
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    • Profile picture of the author roley
      Originally Posted by TheToolWiz View Post

      It's not like this is rocket science. Sure you can use Excel.

      Let's not forget the venerable pencil and paper, which are also a convenient option, and don't cost you a thing if your "borrow" them from a friend.

      I'm finding that people often enjoy wasting TONS of time doing stuff the long, hard way, rather than spending a few bucks on a tool that will let them FOCUS on their REAL OBJECTIVES -- making money.

      I haven't seen many debates lately on whether it's better to use calculators for dividing numbers rather than doing it by long-hand division. But we don't seem to have come very far since then.

      If your goal is to become one of the most skilled Excel experts around, then by all means, use Excel! It's one of the ultimate math tools, and can be used for virtually anything and everything dealing with numbers and combinatorics. When you're done figuring out a few crazy applications, you should definitely publish a book on what you learned tho, if for no other reason than to show people how you got the bear to dance.

      Wanna dig a hole? Well, a spoon or a garden spade is fine, right? Why bother with a back-hoe if a shovel is available? What about your hands and a piece of wood?

      I know a guy who worked at a company who put out bids to have someone come in and change the light bulbs in the light poles in their parking lot; there were about 200 of them. They awarded the job to the lowest bidder, who came in the first thing the next morning and went to work. They had a couple of crews setting up scaffolding, like what you see set up around buildings that allow workers to apply materials to the exterior of the building. By the end of the day, they'd managed to change four (4) lights. They said it was cheaper than renting a "cherry picker". But it would have taken a month versus one day with a "cherry picker"!

      If your goal is to whip out new PPC campaigns in as short a time as possible, you really want to use a tool specialized for THAT task.

      Is your goal to make money online? Or to become an expert at different ways of spinning your wheels and wasting time? If it's the latter, why not put out a WSO: "The Ten Most Time-Consuming Things I Do To Waste My Time Every Day". I'm sure it'll make you rich.

      Given that I've only sold a whopping 6 copies of PPCTwister, it's clear that people are far more interested in spinning their wheels than saving time.

      What's with you folks? This forum has the largest concentration of people who make money online with these techniques. Am I supposed to believe that the entire market for PPC tools like this is COMPLETELY SATURATED?

      Or are people just so enamored with Excel as a "Swiss Army Knife" that they can't see their way to spend a penny on anything more specialized?

      How are you making money by becoming an Excel expert??? And what about all of the things these apps do that Excel simply does NOT?

      Enquiring minds want to know....

      -David
      Dave i think what doesnt help is seeing Errors being spit out by the software your selling in your videos, that might turn a few people off, thinking they are buying some software which is going to screw up on them.

      Personally i liked your video and will consider getting it if it does everything speedppc does
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    The owners didn't "bully" the ppcgen guys, the ppcgen guys blatantly ripped them off. They were told to take the code and site down or go to court and be fined and then take the code and site down. The code was identical to theirs, no changes at all.

    It is possible to do some of the stuff it does with excel. But you won't be able to do the misspellings without some coding.

    I have custom coded scripts for ppc on my site that do the same and a bit more then speedppc or any of these other programs.

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    • Profile picture of the author roley
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      The owners didn't "bully" the ppcgen guys, the ppcgen guys blatantly ripped them off. They were told to take the code and site down or go to court and be fined and then take the code and site down. The code was identical to theirs, no changes at all.

      It is possible to do some of the stuff it does with excel. But you won't be able to do the misspellings without some coding.

      I have custom coded scripts for ppc on my site that do the same and a bit more then speedppc or any of these other programs.

      I tried out it out at OverZone Software - PPC Keyword Generator doesnt look as though it does what speedppc does
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  • Profile picture of the author Derekis
    PPC has burned a large hole in my wallet.

    Seriously, $500 for SpeedPPC is a bit way over my budget despite the many good reviews by hard core PPC users and gurus.

    Is the PPCTwister recomended here any good? Anyone used it before?

    Came across another program recomended by some guru called Adgrenade, heard it costs only $67 and does almost everything Speed PPC does.

    Any reveiws on Adgrenades?

    Many thanks in advance.
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    • Profile picture of the author SpeedPPC
      Hi guys

      Thought I'd weigh in on this one as there are a few things to compare with any software.

      SpeedPPC is a patent-pending campaign building tool, so it's not really comparable to excel. One feature which is the keyword mixing basically eliminates what you used to do in excel. But there's a lot more to consider with campaign building then just your keyword mixing.

      • SpeedPPC automatically creates your ad groups - you've got the flexibility of many options, including to group per keyword or group multiple keywords (this is not common across other tools)
      • Standard and Advanced Ad Builders - You can create unlimited ads for your keywords and using SpeedPPC's dynamic insertion method, you can target those ads precisely to your search term
      • Create unique URLs for every keyword to help with your tracking
      • Landing Page generator - create dynamic landing pages for your keywords and you'll automatically create a strong chain of relevancy from keyword to ad group to ad to landing page
      • Data cleansing function - to clean keywords that you might import from anywhere else
      • Generate campaigns for Google AdWords, Yahoo! and MSN and 9 other search engines (you can also create your own output template)
      • You can create search and content campaigns (although not site-targeted just yet)
      • With the Affiliate Datafeed Software you can feed in your affiliate datafeed files from merchants or your own database and produce targeted landing pages and campaigns
      • The professional landing page templates alone are worth way more than the product if you were to get these created yourself
      Yes it does cost more, however there's a good reason for this and you definitely get your money's worth just on time savings alone. If you don't, then you can get a full refund within 30 days so it's no risk anyway. Along with extensive product support (help desk, training videos, user guides, forum, blog), you get monthly training and version updates.

      Also, the beauty of SpeedPPC is that it builds your campaigns according to search engine best practices, particularly Quality Score so you definitely won't be banned! It simplifies the whole process of Quality Score by building the relevancies into your campaigns.

      Campaigns can be built in seconds to minutes but it's not just about doing things faster, there's methodology built-in to the system to produce high quality campaigns.

      SpeedPPC is PATENT-PENDING so it's around to stay. We're constantly improving it and there are several updates per year as we update features to cater to Search engine guidelines and proven conversion tactics.

      Hope this clears up a few things, but any queries let us know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derekis
    Hi Speed PPC,

    A quick question, when tracking your ad campaigns under the same theme, can the SPPC software automatically assign a unique identifier for each ad?

    Many thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamieblake
    its definatly worth it in my opinion saves alot of time and effort I suggest you invest in it reccommended.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    If you can use excel you are probably better off than using speedppc although doing excel has it's limits and will probably still take you longer depending.

    Also there was some software that did what speedppc does and it was free. It stopped being spread around and some excuse was given but who knows what really happened. I downloaded it when it came out. I don't know how speedppc has progressed since then but this software pretty much does what you need it to. I don't know if you can still find ppcgen somehow.

    SpeedPPC can be very useful but it won't be useful to everyone. Only if you are at least semi hardcore. And with the alternatives suggested in the replies you should look into those.

    I can't say personally whether SpeedPPC is good or not but it has to be at least good judging by similar software and what they do, which is good stuff.

    But SpeedPPC is always growing I guess so at some point if you decide that when you have the money to spare and you want to go beyond the free tools then give it a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    The landing pages seem to be the dirty little secret that might make it worth it.
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    Any idea if SpeedPPC works with Drupal?

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  • Profile picture of the author spires
    Guys. Check out www . Adwords Supremacy . com

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    • Profile picture of the author raotnv
      I love the speedpcc really so much. Now a days I couldn't able to start any adwords campaign without using it. But the price is too expensive now. Luckily I buy from some other guy who nulled it.
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    will take a look at their tutorial videos, Im lost. I hate it when Im stucked!
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  • Profile picture of the author lottomasta
    It gets worse guys.

    I paid $497.00 for the SpeedPPC Affiliate Pro Package in 2008. In 2009 I had to pay another $95.00 Annual fee.

    Now, late 2010, my SpeedPPC software does not work at all because I did not pay another $95.

    So, nearly $600 and not even a basic working level copy; nothing.

    Leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
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  • Profile picture of the author markthompson
    Guys,

    Here is my take on SpeedPPC. For those of you who dabble in PPC and create a few small campaigns, here or there...SpeedPPC is probably not right for you.

    SpeedPPC is definately worth the money IF you either spend a significant amount of money in PPC, OR Manage lots of different campaigns across one or a few different ad networks, OR you are having trouble gaining high quality scores.

    I have a review site specific to SpeedPPC that gives you more information on wheather you should buy it or not.

    I also provide anyone who buys through me an amazing bonus package worth over $597! Not to mention you will also receive a $30 discount when you purchase the SpeedPPC software.

    Feel free to check it out here SpeedPPC Exclusive Bonus & Review | SpeedPPC v4.5 Worth Your Money?
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    You can use it. But i am always suggesting and preffering to do manually.
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