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Question about Keyword Research method ?

by kurosaki4d
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Hello guys,

One of the ways that I test new keywords that I can potentially rank for is by publishing test articles of "1000 words" (well written), and if they rank near page 1, then I update it by writing a much longer/better content version of it.

So, realizing that adding quite a few 1000 words articles "each week", can be considered as thin content.

So, my question is, can this method hurt my SEO? If Google notices that I publish a lot of short articles each week?

I'd love to hear your valuable feedbacks guys.

Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    So, realizing that adding quite a few 1000 words articles "each week", can be considered as thin content.
    Says who?

    So, my question is, can this method hurt my SEO? If Google notices that I publish a lot of short articles each week?
    Since when is 1000 words a 'short' article?

    If you are 'adding quite a few 1000 word articles each week' - why would that hurt you? You seem to be looking for problems that don't exist.


    Edit: I didn't answer the question - sorry. Of course you test keywords and as you see what attracts the most attention of your target market...you expand the content on that keyword and related keywords etc. When you are writing articles longer than 1000 words keep an eye on the engagement. A long article may be warranted - or perhaps 2-4 articles of 1000 words would serve you better.



    Know what facts you want to convey - what you want to say on the topic/keyword - and when you run of things to say....stop. Don't ever write longer articles just for the word count....you risk losing the reader's attention if you go on too long.
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    • Profile picture of the author kurosaki4d
      Your answer makes a lot of sence to me. Thank you for taking the time to explain that clearly to me.

      "Thin content" is something real, so I assumed it's around 1000 words, since most articles seems to be a higher word count that that.

      It's very rare for me to find a ranking article with such a word count or less.

      I'll certainly keep your valuable advices in mind when I'm doing my work. They'll be of much use to me.

      Thank you once again
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        You are confusing some things:
        Thin content has a lot of fluff.

        "thick" content is dense in information.

        Compare:

        An FHA mortgage loan is a type of loan where a house is used as collateral that allows mortgage seekers to buy houses that they do not have the cash to pay all at once.

        Vs

        FHA loans allow borrowers who cannot get a conventional loan to buy a house. It does that by having more relaxed rules for credit, income and employment.

        Then, content is defined as thin or not in a particular context.

        Different contexts have different requirements.

        Ranking is not based on number of words but on SEO, a big part of which is backlinks.

        If you cared and had, and we're willing to use, a lot of resources, you could rank an empty page for the hardest keyword there is.

        Originally Posted by kurosaki4d View Post

        Your answer makes a lot of sence to me. Thank you for taking the time to explain that clearly to me.

        "Thin content" is something real, so I assumed it's around 1000 words, since most articles seems to be a higher word count that that.

        It's very rare for me to find a ranking article with such a word count or less.

        I'll certainly keep your valuable advices in mind when I'm doing my work. They'll be of much use to me.

        Thank you once again
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        • Profile picture of the author kurosaki4d
          Makes a lot of sence. Indeed I had some confusions about thin content. Thank you for clarifying that to me
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    24 Hour Plumber call xxx--xxx-xxxx is great content on a plumber's page. Even if it is the only content there.

    Nothing thin about it.

    Ask anyone who had a kitchen sink leak at 11pm on a Saturday night.

    Originally Posted by kurosaki4d View Post

    Hello guys,

    One of the ways that I test new keywords that I can potentially rank for is by publishing test articles of "1000 words" (well written), and if they rank near page 1, then I update it by writing a much longer/better content version of it.

    So, realizing that adding quite a few 1000 words articles "each week", can be considered as thin content.

    So, my question is, can this method hurt my SEO? If Google notices that I publish a lot of short articles each week?

    I'd love to hear your valuable feedbacks guys.

    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Rosenberg
    No, this won't hurt your SEO. Since you are writing it all by yourself and not a plagiarized content.

    Moreover, 1000 words is also not that short.
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalstar
    No, It will not hurt your SEO. Always create content that is helpful for Users.

    1000 Words is long enough for many niches. That's not at all Short.
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    • Profile picture of the author kurosaki4d
      Thank you mate! That's what I needed to hear!
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  • Profile picture of the author incomenow
    Originally Posted by kurosaki4d View Post

    Hello guys,

    One of the ways that I test new keywords that I can potentially rank for is by publishing test articles of "1000 words" (well written), and if they rank near page 1, then I update it by writing a much longer/better content version of it.

    So, realizing that adding quite a few 1000 words articles "each week", can be considered as thin content.

    So, my question is, can this method hurt my SEO? If Google notices that I publish a lot of short articles each week?

    I'd love to hear your valuable feedbacks guys.

    Thank you
    Two things are important here: First is using the right keyword; second is posting quality content. You simply need a powerful keyword research tool to perform searches before writing any piece of content. Also, you need to ensure you don't write content just for the sake of word count. Once you've put these in mind, you will never have problems with your rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author NUR AFROZ
    I think understanding searcher's intention and reliability, one can produce quality content. Word counting is not needed all the way rather helping the searcher's query -helps content to be ranked.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketApplication
    Go after keywords with high CPC and low paid competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author ankushkohli
    No, It will not hurt your SEO. I think a 1000 word article is not that short. If you are able to solve the visitor query in 1000 words, it's enough. Don't write articles for word count. Some time longer articles can harm your website's user experience as it become boring to read a very long article so it's a good approach according to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Penny Boots
    Hello,

    No, 1000 words each article is very good for SEO, and you can considered as good content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arslant001
    No this method doesn't hurt your SEO. It depend what a unique content you publish and also how much you just focus on your targeted keyword. If you write 2000 words content and doesn't focus on your niche then it hurts your SEO.


    Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author FaheemAA
    Its very good practice to edit and add more valuable information in already published content. Google like this practice and evaluate it more useful and fresh information for their users. But makesure to avoid spam and misleading information adding in this published content. This can be drop your SERP.
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    • Profile picture of the author kurosaki4d
      I replace the content with a new longer version, more detailed, no spam there!
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  • Profile picture of the author Klara Pelhe
    Article of 1000 words isn't a short one, so you wouldn't have problems with this, especially as the word count isn't so important and you primarily need to pay attention to quality and value of your texts, since they can even contain 10000 words but they won't have any worth if they don't bring some quality to the readers. So, you can use this method, that is called, I think, skyscraper technique and rewrite the existing articles, just make sure that you always add something useful into them, and you won't have any SEO issues, no matter how often you post.
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  • Profile picture of the author incomenow
    To my understanding, 1000-word articles aren't regarded as thin content by Google or any other search engine. Of course, you're doing great if you could manage to get a few 1000-word pieces published weekly on your site. Please, keep it going. I would only suggest adding a long-form piece to your weekly writing/publishing schedule to further improve your SEO.

    Originally Posted by kurosaki4d View Post

    Hello guys,

    One of the ways that I test new keywords that I can potentially rank for is by publishing test articles of "1000 words" (well written), and if they rank near page 1, then I update it by writing a much longer/better content version of it.

    So, realizing that adding quite a few 1000 words articles "each week", can be considered as thin content.

    So, my question is, can this method hurt my SEO? If Google notices that I publish a lot of short articles each week?

    I'd love to hear your valuable feedbacks guys.

    Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Thin content has nothing to do with word-count. You can have 10,000 words and thin content.




      Let me give you a sample of thin content:


      Title: Best Auto Insurance For Quotes for Teenagers


      Body:


      So, you find yourself looking for the best auto insurance quotes for teenagers. And that makes sense. Everybody who has a teenager wants the best auto insurance quotes for their teenager. Teenagers are new drivers. New drivers are not experienced. So, it is not easy to find the best insurance rates for teenage drivers.


      But do not lose hope. If you read this article about insurance for teenage drivers, you will surely be equipped to obtain suitable insurance for your teenage son or daughter.


      The first thing to do is to Google a search term related to insurance for teenage drivers. Yup, that means you are going to type in Google's search bar phrases like: Des Moines insurance for teenagers or Las Vegas best car insurance for teenage drivers.


      You will get many results. Some are better than others. But you expected that. Now it is time for you to go through the results and see if anything catches your attention. If nothing catches your attention, do not despair. Search for another term.


      Eventually, you will find some insurance company that sells insurance for teenage drivers at a good price.



      The reason you need to do it is because you want to buy insurance for your teenage driver. And you want to buy it because you don't want to pay out of pocket all the money it costs to fix a demolished car.


      Cars are expensive. Buying insurance makes sense. Especially if one of the driver is not 18 yet.


      Because people under 18 do not have experience they are more likely to have accidents. Accidents damage your car and, sometimes, someone else's car. Think how expensive it is to repair two cars. Or your car and the front of a restaurant.


      So, you must buy insurance for your teenager. And, of course, it makes sense that you search for the best insurance for teenage drivers.


      The above is some 300 words of thin content. I can go on like that for another 3000 words, and the content will still be thin.


      Compare this with a plumber's webpage that says:


      Emergency plumber, open 24/7. Call xxx-xxx-xxxx any time.


      And there's nothing else on that page.



      That's 8 words. But it is not thin content.



      Why? Because the content has value to people in that plumber's area.


      Thin is about usefulness not about length.



      Originally Posted by incomenow View Post

      To my understanding, 1000-word articles aren't regarded as thin content by Google or any other search engine. Of course, you're doing great if you could manage to get a few 1000-word pieces published weekly on your site. Please, keep it going. I would only suggest adding a long-form piece to your weekly writing/publishing schedule to further improve your SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Google doesnt have any problem with this thr thing its that your content needs to brimg value amd not to be copied at least not 100% percent
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