.com, .net or .info better for optimizing ?

16 years ago

actually - there is a terrific WSO on using .org domain names over on the WSO forum. Apparently, there are tons of ripe keyword domains available for the picking.

(I am not in any way associated with the WSO other than I bought it)

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Marhelper

16 years ago

Here is my order:

.com
.org
.net
.info

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successtroupe 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Marhelper

Here is my order:

.com
.org
.net
.info

I agree with you.
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Steven Fullman

16 years ago

There are a few myths floating around...

One is that Google favours one TLD over another.

Some folks swear by ".com or .org", but not ".net"

Others say, ".com or .net", but not ".org"...and definitely NOT ".info"

You know what?

If your ".info" site has the most relevant content, and the highest quality backlinks...you'll win.

Why do people try to make this SEO stuff out to be some kind of secret code?

Relevance + Authority

There you go. SEO in a nutshell.

Steve

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Oliver Hart

16 years ago

Hi.

You are so right Steven.

The content is the most important part.

Google lives of providing its users (searchers) relevant content to the search phrase.

I will see the day that Google is denying its user to get the best result of its search just because Google don't like the domains LTD.

- Oddvar.

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

There are a few myths floating around...

One is that Google favours one TLD over another.

Some folks swear by ".com or .org", but not ".net"

Others say, ".com or .net", but not ".org"...and definitely NOT ".info"

You know what?

If your ".info" site has the most relevant content, and the highest quality backlinks...you'll win.

Why do people try to make this SEO stuff out to be some kind of secret code?

Relevance + Authority

There you go. SEO in a nutshell.

Steve

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Steven Fullman

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ODA Marketing

Hi.

You are so right Steven.

The content is the most important part.

Google lives of providing its users (searchers) relevant content to the search phrase.

I will see the day that Google is denying its user to get the best result of its search just because Google don't like the domains LTD.

- Oddvar.

Exactly...ridiculous, isn't it!

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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

There are a few myths floating around...

One is that Google favours one TLD over another.

Some folks swear by ".com or .org", but not ".net"

Others say, ".com or .net", but not ".org"...and definitely NOT ".info"

You know what?

If your ".info" site has the most relevant content, and the highest quality backlinks...you'll win.

Why do people try to make this SEO stuff out to be some kind of secret code?

Relevance + Authority

There you go. SEO in a nutshell.

Steve

Exactly .. What my Buddy Steve said is 100% truth...

Steve many start the stupid myths so they can sell you some junk info ebook that has fake stats and fake earnings in them...

James

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Steven Fullman

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Exactly .. What my Buddy Steve said is 100% truth...

Steve many start the stupid myths so they can sell you some junk info ebook that has fake stats and fake earnings in them...

James

Thanks, James

If I were new to this game...oh boy. I'd fall hook, line and sinker.

That's the sad thing...it's a self-sustaining myth.

Steve

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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

Thanks, James

If I were new to this game...oh boy. I'd fall hook, line and sinker.

That's the sad thing...it's a self-sustaining myth.

Steve

You're right ... I was thinking maybe counter it with another ebook

The Greatest Myth's In Internet Marketing
What the self proclaimed experts don't want you to know

Think we could "sell" it ...

James

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Steven Fullman

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

You're right ... I was thinking maybe counter it with another ebook

The Greatest Myth's In Internet Marketing
What the self proclaimed experts don't want you to know

Think we could "sell" it ...

James

I'd buy it

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peter_act

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

You're right ... I was thinking maybe counter it with another ebook

The Greatest Myth's In Internet Marketing
What the self proclaimed experts don't want you to know

Think we could "sell" it ...

James

I'd write it - just finished one e-book, looking for another - this could be it!

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halfpoint

16 years ago

This forum needs a function where if someone starts a thread on this topic the post below automatically pops up on their screen.

Well said, Steven!

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

There are a few myths floating around...

One is that Google favours one TLD over another.

Some folks swear by ".com or .org", but not ".net"

Others say, ".com or .net", but not ".org"...and definitely NOT ".info"

You know what?

If your ".info" site has the most relevant content, and the highest quality backlinks...you'll win.

Why do people try to make this SEO stuff out to be some kind of secret code?

Relevance + Authority

There you go. SEO in a nutshell.

Steve

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mbirrell

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Fullman

There are a few myths floating around...

One is that Google favours one TLD over another.

Some folks swear by ".com or .org", but not ".net"

Others say, ".com or .net", but not ".org"...and definitely NOT ".info"

You know what?

If your ".info" site has the most relevant content, and the highest quality backlinks...you'll win.

Why do people try to make this SEO stuff out to be some kind of secret code?

Relevance + Authority

There you go. SEO in a nutshell.

Steve

Yea - hit the nail right on the head

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Joel Gray

16 years ago

.com if you can get it but overall a .org or .net will work just fine and I have found that if you have a wordpress blog a .info can get a good search engine ranking.

Joel

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Besides, .info are really inexpensive!
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Charles Washington

16 years ago

Say what you want about domain extensions, .info are the worst of the big four. Sure they are cheap, but you can find coupons to make those .com's and .org's a lot cheaper.

I'm not saying you cant get them ranked. I am saying, they will take a lot more work to get good rankings and maintain those rankings in the long run.

My order:
.com (if you can find them)
.org
.net
Go on to the next keyword

My time is more valuable than a $1.99 .info

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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery

I'm not saying you cant get them ranked. I am saying, they will take a lot more work to get good rankings and maintain those rankings in the long run.

Care to share why you think that ? Got any hard core proof ?

Fact is the ext means nothing if we are just talking about rankings. It means something if we are talking about word of mouth, advertising, and people that just type in domain names in the browser window.

But rankings it means nothing.. I own a few .info and never once had a problem getting them ranked. They will rank just as easy and just as good as a .com will ...

James

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Charles Washington

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Care to share why you think that ? Got any hard core proof ?

Fact is the ext means nothing if we are just talking about rankings. It means something if we are talking about word of mouth, advertising, and people that just type in domain names in the browser window.

But rankings it means nothing.. I own a few .info and never once had a problem getting them ranked. They will rank just as easy and just as good as a .com will ...

James

I would love to Rich Jerk.

yogurtmachine.org
Ranks on the first page of google for it's keyword
Hardly any original content
4 backlinks

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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery

I would love to Rich Jerk.

yogurtmachine.org
Ranks on the first page of google for it's keyword
Hardly any original content
4 backlinks

There is no way to tell how many backlinks a site has... No program can pick them all up. Now you are also talking about a domain name with the keyword. A .info with the same keyword can get the same listings the same way ...

James

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Charles Washington

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

There is no way to tell how many backlinks a site has... No program can pick them all up. Now you are also talking about a domain name with the keyword. A .info with the same keyword can get the same listings the same way ...

James

I thought we were talking about keyword domains. He said it was a keyword that got 60k searches per month and the .info was available.

Anyway. I have a lot of .org's and a few.com's where there is also a .info, and I have never had to worry about them as competition. I really dont understand the fuss.

I noticed the OP only had 17 posts. I dont know if he is a newbie. But if he is, .com, .org, or .net's are going to give him the best chances at success in the SERPS. That's all I am getting at.

I know you Rich Jerk, are awesome in your SEO knowledge, but not everybody is at your level. Having an exact keyword domain (non .info) will give him a leg up and a better fighting chance if he is building niche sites.

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TheRichJerksNet

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery

I thought we were talking about keyword domains. He said it was a keyword that got 60k searches per month and the .info was available.

Anyway. I have a lot of .org's and a few.com's where there is also a .info, and I have never had to worry about them as competition. I really dont understand the fuss.

I noticed the OP only had 17 posts. I dont know if he is a newbie. But if he is, .com, .org, or .net's are going to give him the best chances at success in the SERPS. That's all I am getting at.

I know you Rich Jerk, are awesome in your SEO knowledge, but not everybody is at your level. Having an exact keyword domain (non .info) will give him a leg up and a better fighting chance if he is building niche sites.

Oh I fully agree ... If it was me I would get the .com and I have a few .com's with the keywords in them.

Here is the downfall about getting a .net, .org. .biz, .info, .whatever and the .com already registered with a site. Most consumers are going to go check the .com even if they do hit your site first. Most are curious to know what the .com has, maybe a better or cheaper deal - so they check.

I would never register a domain name based soley on can it rank good. There are far too many factors involved. Such as easy to remember, type in traffic, easy to advertise off-line, can it be spoken on radio and people understand it and etc ...

I personally mostly own .com but on many sites I own the .com and .net both so I can protect the name.

James

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Charles Washington

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Oh I fully agree ... If it was me I would get the .com and I have a few .com's with the keywords in them.

Here is the downfall about getting a .net, .org. .biz, .info, .whatever and the .com already registered with a site. Most consumers are going to go check the .com even if they do hit your site first. Most are curious to know what the .com has, maybe a better or cheaper deal - so they check.

I would never register a domain name based soley on can it rank good. There are far too many factors involved. Such as easy to remember, type in traffic, easy to advertise off-line, can it be spoken on radio and people understand it and etc ...

I personally mostly own .com but on many sites I own the .com and .net both so I can protect the name.

James

I totally agree with you here. If I were going for an authority site or memorable domain, I might not even use keywords in the domain. In fact, I would go for branding. Then, build a loyal customer base off that branded .com

But if I am building little sites that target one keyword, I am only going for organic traffic. I am not looking for type ins or anything like that.

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deckman

16 years ago

Thanks everyone for their input.

I have heard it going both ways so I just wasnt sure and it seems that it could still be up in the air. I did go ahead and get a dot com.

I dont like having to verbally tell some one and have to repeat to make sure they got it. Just so much easier to put it out there as a dot com instead of a .info

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petelta

16 years ago

Im glad this was brought up and has gotten some response. I've been wondering the details for a while. So for a mini niche site would keyword1.org with 50k competition and 60k/monthly searches be better than a keyword2.com with 100k competition 30k/monthly searches?

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Charles Washington

16 years ago

Originally Posted by petelta

Im glad this was brought up and has gotten some response. I've been wondering the details for a while. So for a mini niche site would keyword1.org with 50k competition and 60k/monthly searches be better than a keyword2.com with 100k competition 30k/monthly searches?

It's more than that, really. Not to make it difficult for you, but the keyword search density isnt as important as how targeted a keyword is. You dont want to waste your time on browsers who are in an "info" searching state of mind. You want buyers who are in a buying state of mind. Usually, and I mean usually, the longer the keyword ,the more targeted it is. And, the better it will convert.

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bgmacaw 16 years ago

I ran a little test a few months ago when I bought a .com and .info with the same keyword phrase. Both had identical link building, mostly automated. The content was an autoblogged feed built from several sources. They performed the same with very little variation in Google result placement. In Bing, the .com performed better. Neither site did well in Yahoo.

My conclusion, the TLD doesn't matter to Google when all else (links, content, on-page SEO) is even. It may matter in other ways though, ranging from other search engines to resell value to type-in traffic.

Another accidental test happened last week when I was testing out a new script. I put it on an unused new .info domain that I hadn't used and hadn't been indexed. I intended to go back and delete the script but I forgot. I went back about a week later and found it indexed and ranking for some of the longer long tail terms, even though the domain name didn't match the content/titles. Interesting results. It doesn't indicate that much about the long term viability of the site but it does indicate that a new .info can get indexed and ranked (primarily from the 'Query Deserves Freshness' algorithm) quickly under the right circumstances.
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- JAIDEEP2959 16 years ago
  
  .com is still better than others.
  
  However if the domain you desire is already taken, hen you can go for .net,.org,.mobi,.info and .biz.
  
  If you observe Sedo or Godaddy marketplace for domain selling, you will find .com domains sell for more dollars than others.
  
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paulie888

16 years ago

I truly think the TLD doesn't matter when it comes to SEO and ranking. The only thing that could be cause for concern is that people tend to almost automatically type in '.COM' at the end when entering a domain name, and if you have a competitor with a .COM domain he may be siphoning some traffic away from you.

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Oliver Hart

16 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

I truly think the TLD doesn't matter when it comes to SEO and ranking. The only thing that could be cause for concern is that people tend to almost automatically type in '.COM' at the end when entering a domain name, and if you have a competitor with a .COM domain he may be siphoning some traffic away from you.

Paul

Exactly. I think you are spot on.

Another difference is if you intend to sell your domain name or your website. The PRO marked value .com higher then the rest, but for indexing and ranking I think you are right.

- Oddvar.

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deckman

16 years ago

While I was registering the .com last night on godaddy I happened to take note :

Why choose .com?
1- The most popular domain extension in the worl.
2- Vital for any one seeking high visibility on the internet.
3- May be registered by any one.

Why choose .info?
1- Associated with websites that provide information.
2- Useful for businesses, organizations and individuals.
3- Recognized around the world.

Why choose .net?
1- Great option when your .com has already been registered.
2- Often used for internet infrastructure or related services.
3- Register the .net version of your .com to protect your brand.

Why choose .org?
1- Popular choice for noncommercial organizations.
2- Also used by businesses to showcase their charitable activities.
3- Register the .org version of your .com to protect your brand.

Then you have:

.me
.mobi
.us
.biz

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Charles Washington

16 years ago

Originally Posted by deckman

While I was registering the .com last night on godaddy I happened to take note :

Why choose .com?
1- The most popular domain extension in the worl.
2- Vital for any one seeking high visibility on the internet.
3- May be registered by any one.

Why choose .info?
1- Associated with websites that provide information.
2- Useful for businesses, organizations and individuals.
3- Recognized around the world.

Why choose .net?
1- Great option when your .com has already been registered.
2- Often used for internet infrastructure or related services.
3- Register the .net version of your .com to protect your brand.

Why choose .org?
1- Popular choice for noncommercial organizations.
2- Also used by businesses to showcase their charitable activities.
3- Register the .org version of your .com to protect your brand.

Then you have:

.me
.mobi
.us
.biz

Keep in mind if you are new to Godaddy, they will try to sell you every extension associated with your domain, along with every service they offer for every domain they get you to register. Then, they wil lcall you on the phone every month trying to get you to upgrade to everything you didnt purchase.

Resist the urge. You got the .com so you are gravy. Get hosting, do the rest yourself.

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deckman

16 years ago

I know about all this. I transfer all my domains to hostgator.

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socialbookmark

14 years ago

In my opinion there is not difference between .com, .net and .org domain extensions but i don't have a good opinion about .info ones. However some of them are ranking high for some keywords, but i don't like to choose them.

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rahulsamiflabs

14 years ago

.com is more better for seo.

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StevenJones

14 years ago

Originally Posted by deckman

Trying to come up with a good domain for the best optimization. I have a 60k+ monthly search keyword with high competition that I want to use but the .com is already taken and parked. .info is available.

I know that you can probably offset with your contents keyword density but will the .info or.net make a big difference ?

.com is definitely your first go. After that you should look if the .net and .org are available. Never go for .info! If .com .net and .org are taken then consider using an additional word in the domain name. But only do this when you are comitted to do some extra work, if not then move on with your keyword research and pick another.