Frustrated with Google

by aceshigh

Posted: 17 years ago 23 replies

I'm so Frustrated with Google. I built a bunch of sites. They go an index them on page one of the results I wanted. Then about 2 weeks later they removed all of them. Then about 2 weeks later they put them all back on the first page. Now after about 1 week they've taken them all down again. They crazy. They're simply crazy over there, and they're making me crazy too! I mean what gives? The only thing though is that they're all the same templated site, only that each focuses on a different city, so all the h1's, domain name, footer, and some places in the body copy are all changed to the new city name.

ie: barriedebtconsolidation.com , reddeerdebtconsolidation.com etc etc...

Trying to figure out what to do to get them back on page 1 again? Or if it's even worth it. If you think you can do it, let me know.

#frustrated #google

Marko Vel 17 years ago

that is google
wait little bit more and i think will be ok
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Beldin 17 years ago

Sounds like the google dance. Opinions vary but sites will do this from time to time. It should eventually settle down to where google thinks it should go, then you can move with backlinks/content/etc...
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commarketing 17 years ago

Wait for google caffeine
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- Beldin 17 years ago
  
  Is there an actual date for Caffeine or just "after the holidays"?
  
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warrich 17 years ago

wait few days to know the result
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- aceshigh 17 years ago
  
  Well here's what I did. I went and created about 100 domains. Each targeting different cities. However each website is a template cookie cut version of the next. I changed the meta tags, the h1, some places in the body copy where it would mention the city and province. You can look at a few of them below. ie: barriedebtconsolidation.com , reddeerdebtconsolidation.com etc etc...
  They came down shortly after I added this one image. So I'm wondering if removing that image would be worth doing to see if the google result were effected by that last change? It's just 1 small image though? Also someone said to me that I should create some customized content for each of the pages and put that on each to customize them more. Should I go ahead and do that? As that would be a lot of work creating 100 articles each unique and then modifying all those freakin pages again. Sorry I don't know CMS so I'm basically screwed in terms of the leg work. Any other suggestions?
  
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  WareTime 17 years ago
  
  Can't see that you have any back links at all. This is a VERY competitive niche. You are going to have to work your behind off to get on page one.
  
  Your first page ranking thus far is because google has a honeymoon period with new domains. That wears off soon though and then you'll end up lower and have to earn it.
  
  And you've built two sites with the exact same content. That's not going to help you.
  
  Why can't people just put up a damn site and work hard on it get it ranked and make money? It really is that easy. Everyone wants to be a millionaire overnight. Quit reading the long page, it doesn't happen like that in real life.
  
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InternetMarketingIQ 17 years ago

Google does nearly everything with Software. They don't have the staff to single out your site from the Billions of pages they index.

So figure out "why" then fix it. That is the whole crux of online marketing. Figuring things out.
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Amenda Jessera 17 years ago

That is Google
That makes everybody crazy....
However, by getting more QUALITY backlinks on CONSTANT RATE PER DAY you will be able to over come this. (Say 10 links per day). Then after sometimes, you will be stable in a position on Google's listing (SERP).
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sarah_may 17 years ago

Well, it is very often specially with new sites so do not frustate and concentrate on building more and more quality links and have patience.
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- Kay King 17 years ago
  
  If the sites are only a few weeks old you can't expect them to rise above established sites and stay at the top. It takes time for your sites to settle into a ranking.
  
  When they are first indexed they are just thrown into the mix and may appear near the top of google results for a short time. That is only until they are moved to the position google thinks they deserve. Once they settle into a certain place you can work to move them up in the rankings.
  
  This has nothing to do with google dance or anything except the normal behavior of new sites when they are first indexed. Give it time.
  
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  EDIT: Just noticed the niche in your post - that is a high competition niche
  
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Borklin 17 years ago

Like others have stated, things like this are quite normal! Spend the time working on SEO and your ranking will stabilize after your site gets some age under its belt!
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CliveG 17 years ago

This is "normal". After a while, probably about a month, everything will settle down and you will get a proper position.
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Armandotoledo 17 years ago

We must tell this to Sergey Brin or Larry Page
I have bad experience with adwords. Day one all of my keywords bid is eligible, but day two all of them 'under first page bid' with bid of first page very high
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2d0k 17 years ago

Build more backlinks to these sites so that Google crawlers will really know that your pages have good content worthy of "voting" for by other sites..
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Marketing Ignite 17 years ago

Your websites are indexed on dec 4 and dec 5 I can see which is a good sign. However, you have basically created the same content on all your websites, so I can almost say to 99.99% certainty that you are penalized for duplications....You cant have 100 domains with basically the same content and then maybee you also have them on the same host?

That would smell fishy to google....If you then start doing interlinking with all of them now you have a link farm, which will definitely get you slammed...It used to work in the past but does not anymore....I know creating unique content to all of them is not what you want to hear as its a lot of work but thats exactly what you have to do if you want a future in google rankings...
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Marketing Ignite 17 years ago

so that image has nothing to do with this...
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- pluto1 17 years ago
  
  All very good suggestions above. I 'd focus on them, especially the ones about fresh and unique contents. Even if you post a duplicate content article on ezn, they may reject your submission.
  
  So, give something fresh, unique to your visitors, so that they can stick around. Google will follow your visitors and bring your site up in rankings.
  
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WebSolutionKey 17 years ago

That is what google is all about!!!
Some quality backlinks on high PR sites everyday at a consistent pace will help overcome this issue.
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mysteryleo 17 years ago

I always suspect Google tracks user behavior. If they try out your site, a user goes to it, and then comes back to the search page, it basically implies your page is useless.

If everyone does that, then it is a red flag. Can't prove they do this, but I would if I was google.
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hotftuna 17 years ago

Google likes to rank new content high for a while. While it is ranking high, if it "attracts" social bookmarks and links, it may stay high. If not, it will likely settle down and have to compete with other sites for the term in question.
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- Kay King 17 years ago
  
  I just looked at the sites. The two you mention are cloned sites with links to make money products on clickbank and what are perhaps CPA debt payment links - no content written for them, no privacy policy and they are basically one page sites.
  
  You would be much better off developing one of the sites and treating it like a real site with information and content. It's a start but you'll need much more than that to rank with the competition in the niche.
  
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nettech 17 years ago

From what it written above, I doubt that the sites will rank at all IF they all have the same content. Becuase fo this reason, they are still there becuase of this 'honeymoon' period. I would suggest that if you dont want to rewrite your content to get someone to write a few 'seed' articles which you can respin that will be different. Howeverm even to do this for 100 different sites can be quite tricky...bu possible.

Also, do your domains have privacy enabled? If not, and again this is an assumption, Google may be able to figure out that someone named Mr X owns all these domains with pretty much 99% the same template design running of the same CMS platform, as a result of this you may get penalised.

The easiest thign to do is just to create unique content for each site, get some quality backlinks and take it from there.

No offence but if it were as easy as what you've done, I would've been a multi millionaire by now like my fellow warriors.....welcome to internet marketing my friend....lol

Good luck and hope it all works out well for you!
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