Can I use AdWords on site with AdSense?

Solidsnake

Banned 14 years ago

I think it's not allowed but I am not sure... Adwords arbitrage is now allowed and I think that's what it is...

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terryd 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Solidsnake

Adwords arbitrage is now allowed and I think that's what it is...

I'm thinking that you meant NOT allowed, because it isn't.
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farasens1

14 years ago

It is not allowed. Perhaps you should use seo with it, not PPC.

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dburk

14 years ago

Hi Kulle,

Yes, you can use AdWords to advertise your forum. Google encourages it as long as the "site complies with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, users should easily be able to find what your ad promises".

Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...=cb&lev=answer

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NicheCowboy 14 years ago

.....................no
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- dburk 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by NicheCowboy
  
  .....................no
  
  Hi NicheCowboy,
  
  So you say "no" even though Google themselves say yes. Can you please elaborate? How did you come to this conclusion? :confused:
  
  Why does Google explicitly tell us the conditions in which it is permissible if it actually isn't? Why have Google AdWords professionals been able to do this successfully for many years?
  
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CloudTap

14 years ago

lots of mis information on this thread. YES you can use adwords on sites that display adsense lol, . That would be like google shooting itself in the foot. Sites do it all the time, one site that became successful doing this is POF

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ormes21

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CloudTap

lots of mis information on this thread. YES you can use adwords on sites that display adsense lol, . That would be like google shooting itself in the foot. Sites do it all the time, one site that became successful doing this is POF

This is taken from the adsense policies "Google ads may not be placed on pages receiving traffic from certain sources. For example, publishers may not participate in paid-to-click programs"

Does this include Adwords....I stopped doing it for now anyway, is there anyone that knows for certain?

Probably best to contact google.

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paulgl 14 years ago

Adwords is not a "Paid to Click." It is Pay Per Click. Huge difference.

To answer the thread question...
You absolutely can. But we don't work for google, so who knows?
We can be 99% right, but it's that other 1% that might get ya.

Although google's TOS does seem to say you can, it is not common
anymore to do it. I'd say it hasn't been popular in at least 2 years.
The reason is that adwords has evolved into THE PPC program to
beat all. So, getting enough traffic would probably cost you an
arm and a leg to make it pay for any adsense clicks.

There are 2 uses for adwords and adsense. Just see if any make sense
anymore.

You sell a product. The product gives you a net of $20. Your page
has adsense. You lose a $20 sale to people who click an adsense ad
for pennies. Make monetary sense? No. If you are selling a product, I
would skip the adsense.

You have a strictly adsense page. What is your click-thru rate? If
you total what you need to pay for an adwords campaign to get
that much traffic, the cost is probably enormous. And you would
be losing money. You are kidding yourself into thinking you will get a
whole bunch of clicks.

Don't do it. Either way to me is a lose-lose.

I think this is one of those things that has just slipped under the radar
as far as google is concerned. It used to be normal, but now since it
has fallen out of favor, google just hasn't felt the need to change the policy.

Paul
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ArticleDirectory

14 years ago

The simple answer is YES. You can do it. I have done it, I have seen so many other sites that have done it, and I have gone through Google TOS to ensure that you can do it...so Yes...you can do it

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All Night Cafe 14 years ago

The answer is yes. Google does allow it.
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ormes21 14 years ago

cool, thanks for making it clear guys!!

I wanted to run ppc for a few of days to see what keywords get the best traffic.

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InternetMarketingIQ

14 years ago

People are still getting away with Adsense Arbitrage.

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tryinhere

14 years ago

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ

People are still getting away with Adsense Arbitrage.

must say i am confused as it was my understanding and i seem to be wrong that this should not be done for the very reasons you mention. I am surprised people are saying yes you can do it.

arbitrage is against G terms for adwords as best i know.

? maybe a pro can enlighten here

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dburk

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tryinhere

must say i am confused as it was my understanding and i seem to be wrong that this should not be done for the very reasons you mention. I am surprised people are saying yes you can do it.

arbitrage is against G terms for adwords as best i know.

? maybe a pro can enlighten here

Hi tryinhere,

I am an AdWords Professional and I did post a link earlier in this thread from Google's website that expressly states that it is permitted. So even if you don't believe a professional that has been doing this for years, you can read the policy for yourself.

Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...=cb&lev=answer

Of course this is Google's own website so you can decide for yourself whether Google can be trusted on this matter. :rolleyes:

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tryinhere

14 years ago

thanks champ, appreciate the heads up, not sure but my question was not meant to be funny or smart so your reply seems a bit odd but all is good ?

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To ensure a positive experience for Internet users and Google advertisers, sites displaying Google ads may not
Receive traffic from online advertising unless the site complies with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, users should easily be able to find what your ad promises.

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from reading that in basic layman's terms it is OK so long as the purpose of that site is to deliver what your ad promised, that being delivered they then can go onto click the next ad and search some more.

so where is the definitive line that says what i have delivers what they need ?

anyway, there does seem the possibility to have a big thick grey line down the middle.

appreciate the reply

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Hi tryinhere,

I am an AdWords Professional and I did post a link earlier in this thread from Google's website that expressly states that it is permitted. So even if you don't believe a professional that has been doing this for years, you can read the policy for yourself.

Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...=cb&lev=answer

Of course this is Google's own website so you can decide for yourself whether Google can be trusted on this matter. :rolleyes:

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Mike24

14 years ago

What exactly is adwords/adsense arbitrage again?

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tjcocker

14 years ago

All I know is that they keep sending me AdWords coupons, telling me that as an AdSense publisher I get a "special $100 coupon" to use for my websites. Seems pretty straight-forward. I never use them tho.

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paulgl

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tjcocker

All I know is that they keep sending me AdWords coupons, telling me that as an AdSense publisher I get a "special $100 coupon" to use for my websites. Seems pretty straight-forward. I never use them tho.

That reminds me. I got one today as a Google Valentine!

Tempting as it is free.

Paul

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secondeye

14 years ago

Yes you can use adwords with adsense but don't use adwords in such a way that you derive traffic on that page where you have put keywords along with all 3 Google Adsense ads.

If you did then you will get banned.

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henry11

14 years ago

I don't think you can use adsense and adwords together mate..

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dburk 14 years ago

Originally Posted by henry11

I don't think you can use adsense and adwords together mate..

Hi henry11,

So what are you saying, you just don't believe Google?

Do you think they are trying to trick us by telling us explicitly the conditions which we must following when we do use AdWords with AdSense, while they secretly have set a trap for their paying customers?

I see this as a question with a definitive answer. Are not opinions irrelevant when it is a question of facts? If Google's policy was unpublished, we could be tempted to speculate, but since their policy is published on a publicly available website, their is no to
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- Gavan 14 years ago
  
  Do not try it. I used to make a lot of money with Adsense arbitrage (yes, it does work). Then three years ago Google cancelled my Adsense account because they didn´t like my "business model". You can read more in this thread: AdSense Disabling Arbitrage Accounts by June 1st
  I think maybe they will allow it if you have a big, established authority site. If you just put up a small site with articles you WILL get banned.
  
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tjcocker

14 years ago

Can anyone clear up why people keep talking about arbitrage being banned, but they send me, an AdSense publisher, a special $100 AdWords coupon that says, "$100 free Google AdWords offer for AdSense customers"? The details on the back say nothing about arbitrage.

Why would they do that?

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Randy Meirndorf

14 years ago

Hello, here is the best info I've found from google itself and it's clear that arbitrage is ok, but only if the site provides a useful user experience. (at googles opinion). About Disabled Accounts - AdWords Help

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EyeInTriangle 14 years ago

I would be a little wary of attempting this unless you have a well-established and content rich website.
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