Can I use AdWords on site with AdSense?

by Kulle
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I have some forum about swine flu and I need members .
But i cant get them
So can I use Adwords if I have Adsense on my forum?
What to do to get members ?And my only earning is from AdSense.
Some ideas?
#adsense #adwords #site
  • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
    Banned
    I think it's not allowed but I am not sure... Adwords arbitrage is now allowed and I think that's what it is...
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    • Profile picture of the author terryd
      Originally Posted by Solidsnake View Post

      Adwords arbitrage is now allowed and I think that's what it is...
      I'm thinking that you meant NOT allowed, because it isn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author farasens1
    It is not allowed. Perhaps you should use seo with it, not PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Hi Kulle,

    Yes, you can use AdWords to advertise your forum. Google encourages it as long as the "site complies with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, users should easily be able to find what your ad promises".

    Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...=cb&lev=answer
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  • Profile picture of the author CloudTap
    lots of mis information on this thread. YES you can use adwords on sites that display adsense lol, . That would be like google shooting itself in the foot. Sites do it all the time, one site that became successful doing this is POF
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    • Profile picture of the author ormes21
      Originally Posted by CloudTap View Post

      lots of mis information on this thread. YES you can use adwords on sites that display adsense lol, . That would be like google shooting itself in the foot. Sites do it all the time, one site that became successful doing this is POF
      This is taken from the adsense policies "Google ads may not be placed on pages receiving traffic from certain sources. For example, publishers may not participate in paid-to-click programs"

      Does this include Adwords....I stopped doing it for now anyway, is there anyone that knows for certain?

      Probably best to contact google.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Adwords is not a "Paid to Click." It is Pay Per Click. Huge difference.

        To answer the thread question...
        You absolutely can. But we don't work for google, so who knows?
        We can be 99% right, but it's that other 1% that might get ya.

        Although google's TOS does seem to say you can, it is not common
        anymore to do it. I'd say it hasn't been popular in at least 2 years.
        The reason is that adwords has evolved into THE PPC program to
        beat all. So, getting enough traffic would probably cost you an
        arm and a leg to make it pay for any adsense clicks.

        There are 2 uses for adwords and adsense. Just see if any make sense
        anymore.

        You sell a product. The product gives you a net of $20. Your page
        has adsense. You lose a $20 sale to people who click an adsense ad
        for pennies. Make monetary sense? No. If you are selling a product, I
        would skip the adsense.

        You have a strictly adsense page. What is your click-thru rate? If
        you total what you need to pay for an adwords campaign to get
        that much traffic, the cost is probably enormous. And you would
        be losing money. You are kidding yourself into thinking you will get a
        whole bunch of clicks.

        Don't do it. Either way to me is a lose-lose.

        I think this is one of those things that has just slipped under the radar
        as far as google is concerned. It used to be normal, but now since it
        has fallen out of favor, google just hasn't felt the need to change the policy.

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  • Profile picture of the author ArticleDirectory
    The simple answer is YES. You can do it. I have done it, I have seen so many other sites that have done it, and I have gone through Google TOS to ensure that you can do it...so Yes...you can do it
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  • People are still getting away with Adsense Arbitrage.
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      People are still getting away with Adsense Arbitrage.
      must say i am confused as it was my understanding and i seem to be wrong that this should not be done for the very reasons you mention. I am surprised people are saying yes you can do it.

      arbitrage is against G terms for adwords as best i know.

      ? maybe a pro can enlighten here
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      • Profile picture of the author dburk
        Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

        must say i am confused as it was my understanding and i seem to be wrong that this should not be done for the very reasons you mention. I am surprised people are saying yes you can do it.

        arbitrage is against G terms for adwords as best i know.

        ? maybe a pro can enlighten here
        Hi tryinhere,

        I am an AdWords Professional and I did post a link earlier in this thread from Google's website that expressly states that it is permitted. So even if you don't believe a professional that has been doing this for years, you can read the policy for yourself.

        Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...=cb&lev=answer

        Of course this is Google's own website so you can decide for yourself whether Google can be trusted on this matter. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
          thanks champ, appreciate the heads up, not sure but my question was not meant to be funny or smart so your reply seems a bit odd but all is good ?

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          To ensure a positive experience for Internet users and Google advertisers, sites displaying Google ads may not
          Receive traffic from online advertising unless the site complies with the spirit of Google's Landing Page Quality Guidelines. For instance, users should easily be able to find what your ad promises.

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          from reading that in basic layman's terms it is OK so long as the purpose of that site is to deliver what your ad promised, that being delivered they then can go onto click the next ad and search some more.

          so where is the definitive line that says what i have delivers what they need ?

          anyway, there does seem the possibility to have a big thick grey line down the middle.

          appreciate the reply

          Originally Posted by dburk View Post

          Hi tryinhere,

          I am an AdWords Professional and I did post a link earlier in this thread from Google's website that expressly states that it is permitted. So even if you don't believe a professional that has been doing this for years, you can read the policy for yourself.

          Source: https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...=cb&lev=answer

          Of course this is Google's own website so you can decide for yourself whether Google can be trusted on this matter. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike24
    What exactly is adwords/adsense arbitrage again?
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  • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
    All I know is that they keep sending me AdWords coupons, telling me that as an AdSense publisher I get a "special $100 coupon" to use for my websites. Seems pretty straight-forward. I never use them tho.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by tjcocker View Post

      All I know is that they keep sending me AdWords coupons, telling me that as an AdSense publisher I get a "special $100 coupon" to use for my websites. Seems pretty straight-forward. I never use them tho.
      That reminds me. I got one today as a Google Valentine!

      Tempting as it is free.

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  • Profile picture of the author secondeye
    Yes you can use adwords with adsense but don't use adwords in such a way that you derive traffic on that page where you have put keywords along with all 3 Google Adsense ads.

    If you did then you will get banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author henry11
    I don't think you can use adsense and adwords together mate..
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by henry11 View Post

      I don't think you can use adsense and adwords together mate..
      Hi henry11,

      So what are you saying, you just don't believe Google?

      Do you think they are trying to trick us by telling us explicitly the conditions which we must following when we do use AdWords with AdSense, while they secretly have set a trap for their paying customers?

      I see this as a question with a definitive answer. Are not opinions irrelevant when it is a question of facts? If Google's policy was unpublished, we could be tempted to speculate, but since their policy is published on a publicly available website, their is no to
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      • Profile picture of the author Gavan
        Do not try it. I used to make a lot of money with Adsense arbitrage (yes, it does work). Then three years ago Google cancelled my Adsense account because they didnĀ“t like my "business model". You can read more in this thread: AdSense Disabling Arbitrage Accounts by June 1st
        I think maybe they will allow it if you have a big, established authority site. If you just put up a small site with articles you WILL get banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
    Can anyone clear up why people keep talking about arbitrage being banned, but they send me, an AdSense publisher, a special $100 AdWords coupon that says, "$100 free Google AdWords offer for AdSense customers"? The details on the back say nothing about arbitrage.

    Why would they do that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Meirndorf
    Hello, here is the best info I've found from google itself and it's clear that arbitrage is ok, but only if the site provides a useful user experience. (at googles opinion). About Disabled Accounts - AdWords Help
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    • Profile picture of the author EyeInTriangle
      I would be a little wary of attempting this unless you have a well-established and content rich website.
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