Finally Broke Into The Top 10 in Google - How I Did It and What I Would Do Next Time(Step by Step)

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The first part of the thread title probably doesn't sound all that impressive to some of you, but for me this is an achievement as when I started I knew next to nothing about SEO(on page AND off page), and this keyword phrase is VERY competitive and the sites on the front page have mostly been around for a long time. Micro Niche Finder comes back with a red 524.

I don't know if any of you remember, but I had a thread a few months back titled 'The Google Dance Thread'. When I started it, my main niche site had gone from number 17 down to 52, then after 3 weeks or so settled at number 13, where it has pretty much stayed since. I've been working pretty hard the last few days to get it moving upwards again, and I just checked it's ranking and it now sits nicely at number 10

I'm really pleased with this - the site is in a very competitive niche full of authority sites(articles, web 2.0's etc rarely appear on the first two or three pages). The keyword phrase gets around 15,000+ searches per month.

I only really started seriously turning my attention towards making it rank higher again in the last 7-10 days. I do think consistency and link variation(i.e in terms of backlink sources) is key.

I haven't built a profile backlink to it for nearly 3 months now, and won't be building any more. Don't get me wrong, I think profile backlinks can be great for establishing a site, particularly when it's new, but once on the first 2 pages I usually stop building them.

I built this site back in August(with help from my wife) - if I had been more consistent I know I could have got it into the top 10 much quicker, and maybe even in the top 5. I think the key really is consistency. OK, enough about this - if I was building a new site today, here is how I would plan on getting it to rank in the top 10, regardless of niche, competition and everything else after everything I have learned:-

1. I'd of course add some content to it. If it was in the form of articles/blog posts I would first do some keyword research. I'd make sure the phrase I targeted in each article would have at least 100 searches per month - ideally many more. I'd also make the effort to try and include the main keyword phrases I was targeting for the entire site throughout these articles - making it look natural to the reader of course. I'd say at least 2 articles to get started, but even better 3 or 4. I like to go for 500+ words for each one where I can.

2. Assuming a sitemap is present, it has been submitted to the search engines and everything is taken care of in terms of meta tag, description and keywords I would then use the free Website Auditor module from Link Assistant SEO Tools to see how my site rated for onpage SEO. I'd look at the scores for the top 10 sites ranking for the keyword phrases I was targeting and follow the instructions to get a percentage close to, or higher than all of them. Things like bold keywords, inter linking between articles/pages, keyword density, alt image tags etc etc. This is vital to get things off on the right foot in terms of when Google and the other search engines come to visit.

3. I'd submit my site to some of the top social bookmarking sites - Digg, Propellor, Redditt etc etc. I use Socialbot for this but what's important is that you do at least a few - it helps with being indexed, and of course brings some lovely link juice. I like to vary my titles and description when I'm submitting to a large amount of them.

4. I'd submit my RSS feed to some of the top agreggators. I use RSS Bot for this, and also some manually too. These agreggators often have a high PR, and remember - new content = fresh backlinks bringing juice to your site as a whole.

5. I'd make a promise to myself to update content on a regular basis. A new article/post each day is great, but more realistically 2-3 per week is more manageable and will make the site look relevant and fresh to the search engines.

6. I'd write a press release. No matter what the niche, there are a lot of free high PR press release sites that are great for link juice and traffic. This is an important step in creating a prescence for a site in my opinion. To start with, I'd submit my release to the following free sites:-

PR Log - Free Press Release Distribution & Free Press Release Submission
Free Press Release - Online Press Release Distribution Service
http://www.i-newswire.com
BigNews.biz Is Your Free Press Release and World News Distribution Center

Those 4 alone are great and will bring some nice link juice, but in addition I would also submit to the 25 included in PressBot.

7. I'd turn my attention towards traffic and backlinks from article directories. I'd both rewrite the articles on my site and write fresh ones. I use the spinner at TheRichJerksNet's Article Productions to create unique versions of articles. It completely rewrite each title and paragraph 3 times, giving me at least 20 unique articles as a result for each one article. I submit the first 10 to the top directories - EZA, Articlesbase, Go Articles, Article Productions etc etc.

This list is great for picking out the top directories by traffic and PR:-

List Of Top 50 Article Directories By Traffic, PageRank

8. I'd then submit some more of my unique articles to some web 2.0 properties - Weebly, Wetpaint, Blog, Blogger, Zimbio, Squidoo, Hubpages etc etc.

9. I'd put one of my unused spins into a tool like Article Tool Chest or The Best Spinner, to get it into Syntax format and make it further unique then submit it to the hundreds of directories in Article Bot(can you tell I love Incansoft tools :p )

10. I'd backlink some of these articles and web 2.0 properties by social bookmarking and submitting the RSS feeds.

That is how I'd establish the site, I'd like to think I could do all that comfortably in a week, although spreading it out over 2 weeks to a month might be better. I'd check my ranking, but wouldn't be too concerned about where it is sitting, because I'd know I'm going to put in consistent effort to help it rise. Here is an overview of what I'd try to do every single day:-

(BTW, I pay no attention to 'nofollow' and such - a link is a link in my eyes)

Blog commenting

I have found I can leave 5+ blog comments in 20 mins - half an hour comfortably. I simply go to Google Blog Search, go to 'advanced search', put in the keywords I want it to find, and those I don't, set it to find blogs from the last day and off I go. I always try to contribute with my comments, and offer good feedback on the topic I'm commenting on. I don't always use my keyword phrase as my name/link - maybe one in every 3.

Directory Submissions

If I'm honest, if I didn't have Directory Bot I'm not sure I would do this, but as I have I usually automatically submit my site to 50 directories a day. I make sure to rotate the description of my site.

Yahoo Answers


Yes, I know it's nofollow - but does nofollow = no link juice? I'm not convinced it does. Besides, it's a great way to get traffic too.

Profile Backlinks

Although I have moved away from these recently, if I was in a competitive niche I think I would do maybe 3-5 of them each day to get things moving for a new site.

I'd of course keep building my site with new content, keep submitting articles to directories and much more - but the above is pretty much step by step what I'd do to establish a new site and get it rising in the SERPS from the off. I hope it helps some of you
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  • Profile picture of the author Marko Vel
    Very useful, thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      I probably forgot to add a few things, one of them being that I social bookmark every new piece of content I add to my sites
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  • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
    Excellent post Liam. I'd do more of the things you said you would do every single day.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Good job.

    Sounds like you found your groove and work template to follow for future sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bertil Jenner
    Well done on your success.

    How much trafic/$ are making from your efforts?

    Unless you know what your competitor's SEO strength was though, you really can not tell how hard it was to rank for your term.

    MNF does not really tell you that. So do not be surprised if your approach does not work on your next competitive niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by Bertil Jenner View Post

      Well done on your success.

      How much trafic/$ are making from your efforts?

      Unless you know what your competitor's SEO strength was though, you really can not tell how hard it was to rank for your term.

      MNF does not really tell you that. So do not be surprised if your approach does not work on your next competitive niche.
      I haven't been concentrating on this particular site in terms of traffic and sales recently. 95% of my traffic is organic and I get between 15 and 30 unique visitors per day. Yes, it's very little, but like I say - I haven't really been concentrating on it. I do make some Clickbank sales through it from time to time, but my long term goal is to sell my own product. I'm going to start writing that in the next few weeks and am going to spend lots of time on to make sure it is an extremely good product. I'm currently building a list too.

      I have another site that I have been doing lots of these things with and for one keyword phrase I have the top 8 of the top 10 places in Google - the site itself, articles and press releases. This keyword phrase alone brings me 20+ unique visitors per day and I have made most of my money this month through a CPA offer I am promoting on it.

      Trust me, I knew how tough my competitors were. When I built the site I didn't have MNF, I had the free trial of Market Samurai. I don't just judge strength by keyword tools - I use SEQ Quake to take a more detailed look, and I go through the top 10 manually too. Trust me - this niche is strong - most of the sites in the top 10 have thousands of backlinks, have been around at least 5 years and have PR's(not that that really matters) up to 6. But more than that - they are authority sites. You can't just write an EZA or put up a web 2.0 and land on page 1, or even 2.

      I understand where you're coming from - but I am confident my strategy will work for most niches and sites. Do I still have a lot to learn? Hell yes, but I'm on the right track I think

      Edit: I understand your skepticism, especially as you make almost 60k every month through adsense
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by rkasso View Post

      I am using Directory Submission, Blog Commenting, Forum Posting to get nice Page Rank alone, as my niche is too clogged with best keywords to break it in Google top 10. But I am still doing my best to have it in top 10.
      That's the spirit I honestly believe no top 10 is unbreakable - all that differs is how you get there, and how long it takes
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      • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
        Originally Posted by Liam Hamer View Post

        That's the spirit I honestly believe no top 10 is unbreakable - all that differs is how you get there, and how long it takes
        Way to go Liam!

        Now rinse and REPEAT!

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  • Profile picture of the author big_t
    Very informative post Liam.
    Some very nice stuff in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author ztws
    Very helpful information. I like that you laid out the steps you used to get results. Keep us updated on how the site performs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by ztws View Post

      Very helpful information. I like that you laid out the steps you used to get results. Keep us updated on how the site performs.
      Thank you - I will
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  • Profile picture of the author t3ch
    cool share on how you make your money. Please lets us update.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      A quick update - I'm now at number 9 I'll update the thread again when I'm number 1, hopefully in the not too distant future
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
    Thanks for the thread. I'm still finding my own kind of plan of action when it comes to backlinking, I'm not very consistent, always trying different things and never quite keeping track of what works best. It's great that you have this plan that works for you, and it also included a little food for thought for me too - thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author sherry_d
    Liam great to hear your good news. I am well and truely pleased for you and like you say, its really persistance that pays off

    If you remember I struggled in sandbox for months too and with some few tips from warrior Terry my site has been out now for 2 weeks and I am getting around 500 visitors a day and its just sweet to be finally ranking again in google. My site was a little over a year and had over 17 000backlinks in explorer but because I had neglected it for a while, when I started building backlinks I was sandboxed (or whaterver the term) and languished in there for nearly 3 months. It sucks.

    Keep us posted when you reach the number one spot. I have managed to get a few keywords to number 1. These are more long tail and some I havent even optimised for.

    More success to you Liam
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by sherry_d View Post

      Liam great to hear your good news. I am well and truely pleased for you and like you say, its really persistance that pays off

      If you remember I struggled in sandbox for months too and with some few tips from warrior Terry my site has been out now for 2 weeks and I am getting around 500 visitors a day and its just sweet to be finally ranking again in google. My site was a little over a year and had over 17 000backlinks in explorer but because I had neglected it for a while, when I started building backlinks I was sandboxed (or whaterver the term) and languished in there for nearly 3 months. It sucks.

      Keep us posted when you reach the number one spot. I have managed to get a few keywords to number 1. These are more long tail and some I havent even optimised for.

      More success to you Liam
      500 visitors a day - that is absolutely fantastic, very well done Glad to hear things are on the up for you too, I remember how frustrated you were a few months back

      Thank you everyone for the kind words, and I'm glad this thread has proved useful to some of you
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      • Profile picture of the author oppcent
        Liam,

        Very helpful post.

        What would you suggest are reliable methods or tools (free if possible) to check accurately:

        > PR of competing websites

        > Actual Number of backlinks.
        In using the Yahoo tool it doesn't seem very accurate, and for Google one way I've used is to put a website's url in quotes, which I'm sure is only good for ballpark numbers.

        Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author GautamSaha
    Thank you Liam for sharing your success and the plan that works!

    Good luck in your path to #1 spot!

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    Thank you for the step by step guide. I do find profile links tend to make your site jump around a bit more then other methods, but it is hard to argue with the end results which are typically Page 1 rankings.

    Do you do any video or podcasting?
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by oppcent View Post

      Liam,

      Very helpful post.

      What would you suggest are reliable methods or tools (free if possible) to check accurately:

      > PR of competing websites

      > Actual Number of backlinks.
      In using the Yahoo tool it doesn't seem very accurate, and for Google one way I've used is to put a website's url in quotes, which I'm sure is only good for ballpark numbers.

      Thanks.
      RG
      I use this one, it tells you all of that and is WAY better than Yahoo Site Explorer and Backlink Watch in my opinion

      SEO SpyGlass Software - Instantly Find Out How Your Competitors Got To 'Top Ten' In Google, Yahoo! and Bing Search Engines

      Originally Posted by MarkAse View Post

      Thank you for the step by step guide. I do find profile links tend to make your site jump around a bit more then other methods, but it is hard to argue with the end results which are typically Page 1 rankings.

      Do you do any video or podcasting?
      Since I've stopped doing profile links, my sites have danced WAY less. Then again, I did used to hit them pretty hard - as I said in my OP, I'd only do 3-5 per day, and I'd do so consistently if I wanted my site to be stable in terms of it's position. I do think they are great for helping to establish a site, but once on the first two pages, I personally won't use them any more.

      No, no video or podcasting as yet - I need to get into the former for sure though, it's an area I've really neglected so far
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  • Profile picture of the author PressReleaseGuru
    Thanks for your post, for me very helpfull, I have a question about press releases, I have seen some services who will add your pressrelease to 300,400 or 500+ news related websites and directories.
    ArticleBot will just add to 25 directories, in your expierence, is that enough or should I go for the relative expensive press release service?

    Thanks,

    Ramon
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  • Profile picture of the author PressReleaseGuru
    Hi Liam, Can you maybe pm me your contact details? I am looking for a SEO expert/mentor to help me a little bit to get my SEO plan started.
    Thank you in advance...

    Ramon
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Originally Posted by RamonvanMeer View Post

      Thanks for your post, for me very helpfull, I have a question about press releases, I have seen some services who will add your pressrelease to 300,400 or 500+ news related websites and directories.
      ArticleBot will just add to 25 directories, in your expierence, is that enough or should I go for the relative expensive press release service?

      Thanks,

      Ramon
      I've only ever used free sites, and I find the 4 I mentioned earlier to be very good. The ones is Press Bot are mostly smaller ones, but are still pretty useful. You'd probably get better results in terms of traffic and distribution with paid sites, but make sure you look around and find the best ones


      Originally Posted by RamonvanMeer View Post

      Hi Liam, Can you maybe pm me your contact details? I am looking for a SEO expert/mentor to help me a little bit to get my SEO plan started.
      Thank you in advance...

      Ramon
      I'm far from an expert or mentor yet, but sure - PM on the way
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      • Profile picture of the author nickrees
        Hello Liam,
        Thanks so much for all that useful information, nice & clear, step by step, thanks for taking the time to write the comprehensive thread.
        Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author DASHBOY
    It is so nice of you to share your experience on getting top 10 on Google. However, we cannot make sure that, we can get success for all the cases on this way. Because, SEO cannot be predicted. Isn't? But, we can apply all of the things which you have done to get success. Sometimes, we would get success with less work than you, sometimes with more work than you. It depends.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    Liam,

    Good to see you've finally broken into the top 10, I remember your post a few months back and I remember when you were scratching yoru head about.

    Anyway, congrats and thanks for that fantastic post.

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  • Profile picture of the author garryc
    Liam.

    thanx for sharing this type of information is gold to newbies like me....

    Garry
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  • Profile picture of the author fivestarexec
    I agree with Dashboy! for some of my sites I really have to put out but then for others I managed to rank well with minimal effort.

    I guess in the latter case, I was fortunate to score some great domains.

    Thanks for sharing Liam
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  • Profile picture of the author sajan1kota
    Hi Liam,

    First of all thanks a ton for this wonderful and very very useful post, after reading your post i can feel how pain it might have been for you to break in to the top 10 congratulations for what you have achieved , good luck for your future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
    Nice Post, well done.

    Its nice to hear and re-affirm what I myself have been thinking for my next site and how I would go about building from the ground up again. I used to think getting to page 1 was only for authority sites and anyone able to perform Black Magic.

    With the help of warriors here and hearing of susscesses like this I now know different, my site is just starting to get ranked and even made first sales after a week or so, so I know we can do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDDHosting
      Congratulations on your achievement.

      I think now days, it doesn't matter if your backlinks are dofollow or nofollow they're still links and they all help.

      Also, what about forum posting? You can gain backlinks easily by posting on forums.

      Anyway, thanks for this post it's been really helpful!
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  • Profile picture of the author echealth
    this is an amazing thread Liam, very great. I have some very urgent questions though as I am pursuing a similar goal to you on a larger scale.
    How old is your site and how long did it take to get out of the sandbox for this term onto the first page?
    Do you realize that if your site is under a year old, it might still do the "dance" and drop again for no reason?
    How are you ranking on yahoo and bing for this term?
    How many hours a day did you dedicate to this?
    thanks ahead of time!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jody_W
    Congratulations, Liam!

    I'm a few steps behind where you are but I'm doing similar things so your post has made me very hopeful. I can't wait to hear about your next success.
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  • Profile picture of the author jury
    Originally Posted by Liam Hamer View Post

    The first part of the thread title probably doesn't sound all that impressive to some of you, but for me this is an achievement as when I started I knew next to nothing about SEO(on page AND off page), and this keyword phrase is VERY competitive and the sites on the front page have mostly been around for a long time. Micro Niche Finder comes back with a red 524.

    I don't know if any of you remember, but I had a thread a few months back titled 'The Google Dance Thread'. When I started it, my main niche site had gone from number 17 down to 52, then after 3 weeks or so settled at number 13, where it has pretty much stayed since. I've been working pretty hard the last few days to get it moving upwards again, and I just checked it's ranking and it now sits nicely at number 10

    I'm really pleased with this - the site is in a very competitive niche full of authority sites(articles, web 2.0's etc rarely appear on the first two or three pages). The keyword phrase gets around 15,000+ searches per month.

    I only really started seriously turning my attention towards making it rank higher again in the last 7-10 days. I do think consistency and link variation(i.e in terms of backlink sources) is key.

    I haven't built a profile backlink to it for nearly 3 months now, and won't be building any more. Don't get me wrong, I think profile backlinks can be great for establishing a site, particularly when it's new, but once on the first 2 pages I usually stop building them.

    I built this site back in August(with help from my wife) - if I had been more consistent I know I could have got it into the top 10 much quicker, and maybe even in the top 5. I think the key really is consistency. OK, enough about this - if I was building a new site today, here is how I would plan on getting it to rank in the top 10, regardless of niche, competition and everything else after everything I have learned:-

    1. I'd of course add some content to it. If it was in the form of articles/blog posts I would first do some keyword research. I'd make sure the phrase I targeted in each article would have at least 100 searches per month - ideally many more. I'd also make the effort to try and include the main keyword phrases I was targeting for the entire site throughout these articles - making it look natural to the reader of course. I'd say at least 2 articles to get started, but even better 3 or 4. I like to go for 500+ words for each one where I can.

    2. Assuming a sitemap is present, it has been submitted to the search engines and everything is taken care of in terms of meta tag, description and keywords I would then use the free Website Auditor module from Link Assistant SEO Tools to see how my site rated for onpage SEO. I'd look at the scores for the top 10 sites ranking for the keyword phrases I was targeting and follow the instructions to get a percentage close to, or higher than all of them. Things like bold keywords, inter linking between articles/pages, keyword density, alt image tags etc etc. This is vital to get things off on the right foot in terms of when Google and the other search engines come to visit.

    3. I'd submit my site to some of the top social bookmarking sites - Digg, Propellor, Redditt etc etc. I use Socialbot for this but what's important is that you do at least a few - it helps with being indexed, and of course brings some lovely link juice. I like to vary my titles and description when I'm submitting to a large amount of them.

    4. I'd submit my RSS feed to some of the top agreggators. I use RSS Bot for this, and also some manually too. These agreggators often have a high PR, and remember - new content = fresh backlinks bringing juice to your site as a whole.

    5. I'd make a promise to myself to update content on a regular basis. A new article/post each day is great, but more realistically 2-3 per week is more manageable and will make the site look relevant and fresh to the search engines.

    6. I'd write a press release. No matter what the niche, there are a lot of free high PR press release sites that are great for link juice and traffic. This is an important step in creating a prescence for a site in my opinion. To start with, I'd submit my release to the following free sites:-

    PR Log - Free Press Release Distribution & Free Press Release Submission
    Free Press Release - Online Press Release Distribution Service
    Free Press Release Distribution
    BigNews.biz Is Your Free Press Release and World News Distribution Center

    Those 4 alone are great and will bring some nice link juice, but in addition I would also submit to the 25 included in PressBot.

    7. I'd turn my attention towards traffic and backlinks from article directories. I'd both rewrite the articles on my site and write fresh ones. I use the spinner at TheRichJerksNet's Article Productions to create unique versions of articles. It completely rewrite each title and paragraph 3 times, giving me at least 20 unique articles as a result for each one article. I submit the first 10 to the top directories - EZA, Articlesbase, Go Articles, Article Productions etc etc.

    This list is great for picking out the top directories by traffic and PR:-

    List Of Top 50 Article Directories By Traffic, PageRank

    8. I'd then submit some more of my unique articles to some web 2.0 properties - Weebly, Wetpaint, Blog, Blogger, Zimbio, Squidoo, Hubpages etc etc.

    9. I'd put one of my unused spins into a tool like Article Tool Chest or The Best Spinner, to get it into Syntax format and make it further unique then submit it to the hundreds of directories in Article Bot(can you tell I love Incansoft tools :p )

    10. I'd backlink some of these articles and web 2.0 properties by social bookmarking and submitting the RSS feeds.

    That is how I'd establish the site, I'd like to think I could do all that comfortably in a week, although spreading it out over 2 weeks to a month might be better. I'd check my ranking, but wouldn't be too concerned about where it is sitting, because I'd know I'm going to put in consistent effort to help it rise. Here is an overview of what I'd try to do every single day:-

    (BTW, I pay no attention to 'nofollow' and such - a link is a link in my eyes)

    Blog commenting

    I have found I can leave 5+ blog comments in 20 mins - half an hour comfortably. I simply go to Google Blog Search, go to 'advanced search', put in the keywords I want it to find, and those I don't, set it to find blogs from the last day and off I go. I always try to contribute with my comments, and offer good feedback on the topic I'm commenting on. I don't always use my keyword phrase as my name/link - maybe one in every 3.

    Directory Submissions

    If I'm honest, if I didn't have Directory Bot I'm not sure I would do this, but as I have I usually automatically submit my site to 50 directories a day. I make sure to rotate the description of my site.

    Yahoo Answers


    Yes, I know it's nofollow - but does nofollow = no link juice? I'm not convinced it does. Besides, it's a great way to get traffic too.

    Profile Backlinks

    Although I have moved away from these recently, if I was in a competitive niche I think I would do maybe 3-5 of them each day to get things moving for a new site.

    I'd of course keep building my site with new content, keep submitting articles to directories and much more - but the above is pretty much step by step what I'd do to establish a new site and get it rising in the SERPS from the off. I hope it helps some of you

    thanks for interesting tips. since I'm new with RSS, what RSS feed agreggators you suggest?
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Thanks for all the kind words everyone, I really appreciate it and I'm glad I could help some of you

      Originally Posted by echealth View Post

      this is an amazing thread Liam, very great. I have some very urgent questions though as I am pursuing a similar goal to you on a larger scale.
      How old is your site and how long did it take to get out of the sandbox for this term onto the first page?
      Do you realize that if your site is under a year old, it might still do the "dance" and drop again for no reason?
      How are you ranking on yahoo and bing for this term?
      How many hours a day did you dedicate to this?
      thanks ahead of time!
      My site is pretty much exactly 6 months old now. Like I said, I'm positive I could have got it up there substantially quicker if I had been more consistent and done the right things from the very beginning

      It's actually dancing right now, but I know it'll come back in the next few days. A few months ago I would have been panicking and anxious for it to come back, but I get decent traffic from the other search engines and other methods, so I'm not worried at all. I did quite a bit of well needed on site optimization last week, so I figure that has brought on 'the dance'.

      The site is currently number 9 in Bing and number 13 in Yahoo

      Originally Posted by jury View Post

      thanks for interesting tips. since I'm new with RSS, what RSS feed agreggators you suggest?
      I highly recommend purchasing RSS Bot(or similar software), it's a one time payment and literally takes a couple of minutes to submit your feed to 30 of the best ones. There are quite a few detailed lists of hundreds of them on the web, including this one - Blog And RSS Feed Submission: Best RSS Directories Where To Submit Your Blog Feed Part 1 Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author JennSpencerIM
    Thank you! I was looking for something like this so I could break into top 10 or at least top 20 right now for my main keyword. It is NOT very competitive except that the sites before me are AGED and some are authority sites of course. It's never taken me this long to break past 50 so it's really beginning to feel like a competition to me and I need some help to propel me past these other sites. I'm ranking very well for the long tail keywords so I'm not concerned, but would love to have a first page spot for the main one word keyword too! I'm also getting $.03 clicks through adwords so I wonder if its really necessary to focus so much on first page for the one word keyword, but at this point is the challenge of it that is driving me! Thanks for your help with this...will let ya know if I can make it happen!!
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  • Profile picture of the author tekayo
    great article, great tips, i hope to find more and more seo diaries and reports
    they are really helpfull
    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author probisnis
      thanks for sharing Liam. Are you have any strategies to improce traffic from social network? thanks again...
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    Thats a great case study...thanks!
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    Thanks for the info. Very useful!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sushie93
      Very informative post, thanks for sharing ^^.
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      • Profile picture of the author javistuff
        Hey, Liam, first of all, congrats! I know this thread is from a previous age, already, in this modern and fast world, and I'm sure you are doing even better now. I was just following your threads and finding so good content on them couldn't do less than saying thanks!

        I actually have a site with one page ranking 9 for it's main keyword, but it has some nice competitors bellow, so it brings little traffic, and was looking for something like your post here to make some order in this huge knowledge warrior's database, to try to get that page a little more up in the Serps...

        So, again, congrats, and thanks!!

        Javier
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        • Profile picture of the author link-master
          thanks for sharing these walkthrough.

          Anyway I got a question about how much money You spent to get there.
          How much does each of the software You mention costs?
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          • Profile picture of the author Thunder059
            Thankful to you for sharing this lovely experience with us.Honestly this is great help for us.

            And i know that this thread is pretty old now and like to know the current status of your site as well.And i strongly believe that the rankings would be much better now.Have you achieved the NO 1? Think so.

            All the best SENIOR.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buzzin
    Wow, the info available in this thread is worth more than most ebooks that people are trying to shove down your throat
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    • Profile picture of the author Domenic Carlson
      Originally Posted by Buzzin View Post

      Wow, the info available in this thread is worth more than most ebooks that people are trying to shove down your throat
      That's so true. How many eBooks do you think were copied and pasted from forum posts just like this one?
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      • Profile picture of the author Natlex
        Originally Posted by Domenic Carlson View Post

        That's so true. How many eBooks do you think were copied and pasted from forum posts just like this one?
        Sadly too many.. almost 90% of the WSO content are stuff you can fidn on the forums. But I guess finding it in a WSO saves you the time it would take to sort it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author akki313
    That's great.. You really work hard and you deserve it.. congrats
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    You can even try making an link wheel by using those web2.0 properties as well..
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      It was a nice surprise to see this thread back on the front page again, and I'm glad so many of you have found the info useful I really appreciate all the kind words, so thank you

      I actually sold the site in question a couple of weeks ago. Because of other IM commitments, I wasn't really actively promoting it or adding new content so I decided it was best to go to someone who could put the time and effort into the site it deserves. Before I sold it, I hadn't built any backlinks to it or added any content for a couple of months yet for the most part it still maintained its front page position(on Google and Yahoo). I just had a look now, and it's sitting at number 5 in Google I still strongly believe it will one day achieve the number 1 spot, and I'll be very happy when it does even though I don't own it any more.

      (BTW, if you go to my profile and look at my recent threads, you'll see the site in question in my websites for sale thread )

      I have another site that I did most of the same things as that one, and it's sitting at number 1 in Google and Yahoo now and has been for a couple of months, again despite not actively building backlinks or promoting it recently.

      I am a big believer in good on page SEO and I feel this is instrumental in a site maintaining a good ranking. Yes, of course backlinks are massively important and can make all the difference, but I see good on page SEO as the backbone of a site you want to rank well. If you haven't already, do yourself and your sites a big favor by downloading the free tools at The Most Effective SEO Software - SEO PowerSuite Tools They're so easy to use and give you so much information about every aspect of SEO.

      I think it's too easy to fall into the trap of building(or outsourcing) hundreds/thousands of profile backlinks, and while this will undoubtedly help your rankings, I feel you should also put plenty of effort into all different kinds of backlink sources(as described in my OP). You don't necessarily have to spend money either - web 2.0 properties are free, as are RSS feed submission sites, some good press release submission sites etc etc etc. With this said, having tools like the 'Bots' is a great investment and time saver in the long run though.

      Again, I'm really glad so many of you have found this info valuable and I hope you continue to do so
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      thanks for the excellent post...
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    • Profile picture of the author eddie jay
      thank you so much i've been doing this now for about a year and got nothing .. however this is a great blue print to get started on .. ( plus i see how much i need to put into this )
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      • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
        Originally Posted by Domenic Carlson View Post

        That's so true. How many eBooks do you think were copied and pasted from forum posts just like this one?
        Originally Posted by Natlex View Post

        Sadly too many.. almost 90% of the WSO content are stuff you can fidn on the forums. But I guess finding it in a WSO saves you the time it would take to sort it out.
        Yep, that's a pretty disappointing aspect of IM in general, but the way I look at it is that the honest people who put this info out there to help others will be rewarded in time, and the dishonest ones not so much. I'm a big believer in the law of attraction

        Originally Posted by eddie jay View Post

        thank you so much i've been doing this now for about a year and got nothing .. however this is a great blue print to get started on .. ( plus i see how much i need to put into this )
        You're welcome I think most of it is pretty simple stuff and is accessible to anyone from newbies up. I myself am far from an SEO expert, but I know that when I put up a new site, I can implement these things and really get things up and running in the SERPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author seojoeblow
    Hi Liam,

    Very informative post. Thank you.
    Can you please point me somewhere i can read more about web2.0 properties?
    What is Page SEO?

    Thannks
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  • Profile picture of the author ODSF
    Awesome post...really..

    I'm definitely going to try to do some of the stuff you wrote about and apply it to my own website.

    Thanks!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Opeleroy
    Thanks for the helpful post. Some of the links you included in your post were exactly what I was looking for, particularly the article directory link
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  • Profile picture of the author CS
    Hi, i am a newbie, I have a very basic question wish to ask..

    I understand that to create backlink, I need to submit article to many article directory sites.

    Can i create a article and submit to different article directory sites?

    What is the different between press release and article directory? Can i use the same article for submission too?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rogerp
    Thanks for all of the terrific advice! One question about the press release sites that you mentioned. I've noticed that at least two of them require paid releases in order to have links in them. Did you do that? I wasn't sure if it would be worth it to pay that much for a single release and was curious if you had chosen the 'premium releases.'

    Thanks again for the informative post!
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    • Profile picture of the author Liam Hamer
      Again, thanks for the kind words I have a little update of sorts. A couple of sites that I applied a lot of the things in the OP to, but haven't done anything with for a number of months have recently appeared in the top 10 of Google and Yahoo. One of them is my wife's site, and it sits at number 1 for a pretty competitive keyword. It hung around number 10 and lower for a few months, but recently it has taken the top spot. She is now updating it regularly, E-Mailing the list she has built with it(99% of visitors are organic search engine visitors) and making sure it is nicely monetized.

      The other one is a seasonal(Christmas) mini site that I had forgotten all about. The last time I checked it was something like 50 in Google, but I checked a few days ago and it is at number 6. I will probably work to try and get it to the number 1 spot(or at least a little higher) just in time for Christmas, there are some decent CPA and Clickbank offers I can promote on there.

      I guess my point is that if you do the right things(varied backlinks and good onpage SEO), eventually you will be rewarded. The longer time goes on, the more the age of your site/domain seems to come into play too. With that said, I would never recommend just leaving a site and hoping it eventually climbs. If a site has money making potential, then effort should be put into it. I need to learn to take my own advice :p

      Originally Posted by seojoeblow View Post

      Hi Liam,

      Very informative post. Thank you.
      Can you please point me somewhere i can read more about web2.0 properties?
      What is Page SEO?

      Thannks
      There is lots of info right here at the WF, a search will bring up a treasure trove of info Here are the links for the sites I mentioned in my OP that i work with:-

      Free Website - Wetpaint
      Blog.com - What's your story?
      Webs - Make a free website, get free hosting
      Squidoo : Welcome to Squidoo
      HubPages
      Weebly - Create a free website and a free blog
      Zimbio - Interactive Magazine

      Originally Posted by CS View Post

      Hi, i am a newbie, I have a very basic question wish to ask..

      I understand that to create backlink, I need to submit article to many article directory sites.

      Can i create a article and submit to different article directory sites?

      What is the different between press release and article directory? Can i use the same article for submission too?
      Yes, you should be submitting to at least 5-10 article directories in my opinion, and if possible even more than that. The backlinks you will gain from doing this are useful, but can be even more useful and carry more weight if you vary the articles(rewriting, spinning etc) for each individual directory you submit to.

      I treat press release sites as somewhere to submit significant updates, such as a brand new site, a brand new product on a site, a brand new feature on a site etc etc.

      Originally Posted by Rogerp View Post

      Thanks for all of the terrific advice! One question about the press release sites that you mentioned. I've noticed that at least two of them require paid releases in order to have links in them. Did you do that? I wasn't sure if it would be worth it to pay that much for a single release and was curious if you had chosen the 'premium releases.'

      Thanks again for the informative post!
      You're welcome

      It's been a few months since I've used press release sites, but it's simply a case of whether you think the backlink is worth paying for the link. If it's a small amount, then generally I think it is because of the page rank the sites I listed have. Plus, if it's a niche where you will get traffic from it, it can be well worth it too. If you don't want to pay, there are a tonne of free press release sites out there, I think there's a big list right here at the WF somewhere
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  • Profile picture of the author coolgadget
    Telling you the truth...Your tips is very interesting..And I'll try to practice your SEO tips so that i can increase my site in Google..Thanks very much..
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  • Profile picture of the author anjoh77
    Liam my site is two now a month old. I've been doing a lot of stuff as well and I was getting traffic with an ad and Twitter. After the ad stopped, the traffic stopped. Well, I can't run an ad everyday obviously so your response is much needed. How can you tell if its real traffic or search engines crawling your site or if its real traffic (yea, noobie here)? Google Analytics doesn't tell me that (or I don't know what I'm looking at which is highly possible too). It seemed like I got a lot of traffic (over 300 in two weeks) for the timeframe but I could be wrong since I don't know what normal traffic is for a new site. How can you really tell? I've done the article, posted in forums, adjusted the metatags, ran an ad, tweeted and a few links. I have no backlinks yet and my site is so far down on Google's list, its like being in a black hole. I need some help! lol

    At any rate, I could kiss you and your arse for this information! I really need it. Seriously! Thanks a million and ..... smooches!
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Nice tips, targetting high profile article directories with solid PR and Alexa ranking will always help in a competitive niche
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