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Ok, I have 3 websites that I made this month in small, low competition niches. One of them is modernwallclockdotnet...don't have enough posts yet to post the link. It is ranked 14th in google for the keyword modern wall clock. It has not gotten a ton of traffic yet, but...that isn't my question.

I got a call this morning from someone saying that my SEO had problems and she wanted me to pay $127 a month to get my site ranked. So I got into a discussion with her because she was trying to tell me the site was not ranked...and that I probably only searched my website name with the .net added on and only thought it was ranked. I explained that my google webmaster account shows the site ranked at 14 for the keyword and that if you search my keyword the site comes up and she proceeds to tell me that she has a list of my meta tag keywords and that google thinks I am spamming because I have more than one keyword containing the word clocks in there.

I told her I might be new but this was not the first ant at my picnic and that I had no intention of paying anyone $127 a month to get my site ranked when it already was.

Anyway.......

My question (and I do have one) is this...how many keywords do you generally use in your meta tags when building a website. The site in question was done as a self hosted wordpress site. I went in this morning and took out all the keywords (I use the all in one SEO plugin) except modern wall clock just to see if I jumped any higher in the rankings but I was wondering what all of you do for keywords...more? or only the one?

Thanks for reading my story, and for any answers!

Laura
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  • Originally Posted by LaurelQuen View Post

    Anyway.......

    My question (and I do have one) is this...how many keywords do you generally use in your meta tags when building a website. The site in question was done as a self hosted wordpress site. I went in this morning and took out all the keywords (I use the all in one SEO plugin) except modern wall clock just to see if I jumped any higher in the rankings but I was wondering what all of you do for keywords...more? or only the one?

    Thanks for reading my story, and for any answers!

    Laura
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Google hasn't used the meta keyword tag for 5-6 years at least. Any SEO "expert" that still mentions the meta keyword tag isn't an expert by any means.

    Run, don't walk, away from this person, they don't know what they are talking about. If they want to debate this issue, point them to this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Google hasn't used the meta keyword tag for 5-6 years at least. Any SEO "expert" that still mentions the meta keyword tag isn't an expert by any means.

      Run, don't walk, away from this person, they don't know what they are talking about. If they want to debate this issue, point them to this thread.
      Exactly. I'd add, that privatize your domain registration. That's where the rats are getting in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    laurel I don't think I can Pm you but remove the reference to your domain name and keywords. Nothing in your question demands for anyone to know your niche. Target is correct. Its possible te person was trying to warn you of overusing keywords.

    Not exactly a horrible price if they know what they are doing but if they can't se the site is ranked then they shouldn't get your business.

    The only thing I would say is that theres no need to use the keyword even in your content so much. Google doesn't just look for the term but for other words related to it. Having the term too many times even in an article can appear spam like to Google as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenJ
      I use keywords and I still put them in the meta tags.
      I do this because I do not think there is any harm in it. If there is I would like to see why.

      Where I do focus on my keywords is in the

      Title
      Description
      Main content.

      They are always there once. Twice in the content if it is quite a long piece of writing. I also use variations and synonyms.

      If the offer this person sounds to good to be true then it is. But this particular sounds like an amateur.

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      • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
        Originally Posted by kenj View Post

        I use keywords and I still put them in the meta tags.
        I do this because I do not think there is any harm in it. If there is I would like to see why.[...]
        I think the advice was in that putting them in meta tags means competition may easily see what's in your mind... instead of trying to read it, lol

        Other than that, it can't harm and all the rest you're doing is ok (although there is much more to SEO than that, but many times, the basics would just be enough...)

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    • Profile picture of the author LaurelQuen
      I took out all but one keyword and wil probably take that out too. Don't much care if people see the niche, it is not especially large and was more like an experiment than anything else. I wanted to see if I could get a site ranked in google using a particular formula and I did. That was my main goal. Did not realize how freaking few words there were for clocks though. Will go through and see where I can take some out. Didn't even have to write an article for this site and I don't think I even had any back links for it when it indexed other than maybe from one of my other sites that isn't doing much. Good experiment though and I will make a couple of changes and then leave it alone to see how long it stays ranked.
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  • Profile picture of the author LaurelQuen
    You know the funny thing was that I have another site I made at the same time that is ranking for multiple keywords and some of them were not even keywords that I used in the meta tags. The woman who called was not too swift and did a lot of sputtering when I pointed out that my site was already ranked and tried to tell me it wasn't. Well, it was the high point of my day...not really...but I got a chuckle out of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author wheven
    sounds like a poor attempt at soliciting you for their SEO service. I'm surprised they did not hold you at gun point!
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  • Profile picture of the author ritusingh
    any body can tell me that "how i can improve my back-link , while don't have directory to do ?"
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    • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
      Originally Posted by ritusingh View Post

      any body can tell me that "how i can improve my back-link , while don't have directory to do ?"
      Improve by building, more and more and more... you've got the picture, I'm sure.
      Go comment on blogs,
      Add them to your sig file in targeted forums and join the conversation there,
      Build profiles on web 2.o social networks...
      etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author JagSEO
    meta keywords are not that useless, it is not that important anymore but you have to still have keywords to be searched.
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  • Profile picture of the author navi
    Yes Google ignores meta keywords, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have any, there is no harm in having few keywords, they may help a teeny bit for other search engines. That being said, don't use any of your 'money' keywords as those can be easily discovered by your competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author Goatboy
      Originally Posted by navi View Post

      Yes Google ignores meta keywords, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have any, there is no harm in having few keywords, they may help a teeny bit for other search engines. That being said, don't use any of your 'money' keywords as those can be easily discovered by your competitors.
      You can omit your 'money' keywords from the meta tags and I can still track them down. All I really need to do is either run the site through one of the hundreds of free analyzers that exist on the web, or I can look at the site for a general idea of the keywords and then run them through MS or even Google keyword tool.
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    • Profile picture of the author VaultBoss
      Originally Posted by probafix View Post

      Should i hire an SEO or optimize my website myself??
      It depends...

      You will either pay for that and do what you're best at (if something else) OR rather DIY if you're an SEO expert - trading time for money has no definitive answer.

      However, if you want to learn SEO or play with your websites as a hobby, it is better to follow a course or even hire a mentor and do it to learn.

      IF you're an SEO master, though... please disregard the above advice (how should I know? :p)

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      • Profile picture of the author webbyworld
        There is no harm in using some Meta Keywords in your website. But this is nothing but to waste your time. Google does not give it any importance now. Meta description is comparatively better and can be used for your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author sajan1kota
    Its not worth to pay $127 for SEO looks like you are been fooled. my advise is not to deal with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author paytonlowe
    As long as it sounds natural google will love it.

    if your image is a wall clock, then a meta tage of: wall clock on the wall

    is ok

    but dont do this: wall clock wall clock wall clock

    thats a no no.
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  • Profile picture of the author rockstar99
    Laura,

    Focus on 3 things when it comes to blogging: Title (meta title), Content (the text within the blog post and how well it matches the title), and Categories. Some search engines still use meta keywords, but they largely irrelevant to SEO.

    As for people calling you - i know it is very annoying! They call me a lot but you are taking a gigantic learning leap coming to these forums. Good luck!
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