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Raygun

15 years ago

Originally Posted by FrankBowman

Platinum SEO, NOT All-in-one-Seo

What do you feel is the biggest difference with the 2 plugins?

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CNP3 15 years ago

is SEO still working for people? I just mainly build a list of subscribers in my niche...

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FrankBowman 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Raygun

What do you feel is the biggest difference with the 2 plugins?

Platinum, I believe, is more seo friendly when it comes to meta tags and descriptions, thats really about it.

They have a migrate feature if you are already using All-in-one-SEO, so you don't have re-input all your keywords and permalink settings

You can check out the developer's site here

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Chris Ramsey

15 years ago

Frank - great post as always. SEO has never really been my strong point, I normally farm this out, but I've got a new site that I need to get ranking and this is going to help me go a long way.

This site doesn't have the luxury of the older domain, but I've chosen a really good keyword (well, small group of keywords) that should prove to be quite profitable for this product.

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MJ Sterling

15 years ago

This seems to be a good comparison between both SEO plugins Platinum SEO Pack vs All In One SEO Plugin | Pramudita's Network

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Kris Turner

15 years ago

Really great info, Frank, thanks! I've been meaning to give something along these lines a try for a couple of long tail keywords. Your guidelines will help!

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Edit::

By using a little trick I know, I found the actual number of competing pages for the keyword, in quotes, so phrase match, I'm ranking #1 for, is actually much much less than 23,000.

However, I never checked the broad match competing page results until now.

Broad match competing pages: :12million+

My rank Position? Still #1 Page 1

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HCLee 15 years ago

1. I agree on the importance of putting your keyword in your domain. It has worked for me too.

2. Aged domains probably is a factor some search engines used to rank your website. 14 months may be a little long to set as a benchmark.

3. Anchor text works for me too. It's important that your content has these anchor text for it to work.

4. All-in-One SEO - While this is a great tool to have and I do use it, there are many who don't. They believe if you want to optimize for say "Computer", Google doesn't want to see "computer" everywhere anymore! instead Google wants to see words like "Dell", "HP", "LCD Monitor", "Graphic Cards" etc... so this is why they don't bother too much about keywords density and prefer to just write good content for your readers (as specified in Google' guidelines).
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fasteasysuccess

15 years ago

Quick tip-I do marketing, writing, and seo for clients and everyone is caught up on metatags titles and so on which is great and basic seo 101 but the way to really do is offsite like I do for myself and clients.

With domains and codings your basically waiting for the search engines to crawl or spider your site which you can speed up.

But When you go to the right sites and submit the right positive seo material to it, you now have top optimization rankings on search engine, you get traffic from social media outlet you chose to submit it to, and creates a positive backlink to your main url.

So my way I get up in hours and or like 10 keywords over few days for any keywords I choose guaranteed and others sit around and wait weeks or months just to try to hit the first couple pages on one keyword.

Actually a lot of people try to spam a bunch of sites with article submitters and all that junk, but if you hit one wrong site and eventually your site is penalized as well which means lower rankings.

If done right is fast and easy.

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Jah33

15 years ago

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Anchor text is pretty straight forward, but "correct on-site seo", for me that means when I first launch a site, I make sure to have nothing but content on it until its indexed.

What is this exactly ? I'm new at this. Also what are metatags ???

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FrankBowman 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jah33

. What is this exactly ? I'm new at this. Also what are metatags ???

I'm by no means an expert, you should just google "anchor text" and "meta tags" to get all the relevant info.

That being said this is how I'd explain it.

Anchor text is basically text or "words" that are hyperlinked. For seo purposes I use anchor text to tell the search engines what my site or pages are about.

I'll link my keyword(s) to either my root domain or a page/post within the root domain.

For example: my site is about bananas. I hyperlink the word "bananas", to my own sites root domain or a page extension of the domain.

But don't over do it, don't link the same word 50 times in one post or page, I'll link a word 2-3 times max, but thats just how I do it.

Its also good to link externally to authority sites, in my opinion, google notices this.

Meta Tags are little pieces of code that fit in between the <Head> tags on your html page.

With a wordpress blog you don't need to do any coding because the appropriate plugins do it for you, you just type the words into the plugins "keyword" or meta tag fields

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Mohammad Afaq

15 years ago

Hmmm, I can smell a WSO coming UP.

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FrankBowman 15 years ago

Originally Posted by mohammad111

Hmmm, I can smell a WSO coming UP.

I was just thinking the same thing ...............who knows?
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Avdo

15 years ago

I was doing pretty much the same for the last few months, and I was "google dancing" between 5th page and 1st page.. for the last month I was on 1st page constantly, and I was getting more and more visitors daily..
suddenly, two days ago my site disappeared from google SERPs!! I can't find it anywhere ranking for my keyword..

Frank, what do you think why that happened? My domain is 6 months old, is it because of that? Am I still under "google dance"?! Or...

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Paleochora

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Avdo

I was doing pretty much the same for the last few months, and I was "google dancing" between 5th page and 1st page.. for the last month I was on 1st page constantly, and I was getting more and more visitors daily..
suddenly, two days ago my site disappeared from google SERPs!! I can't find it anywhere ranking for my keyword..

Frank, what do you think why that happened? My domain is 6 months old, is it because of that? Am I still under "google dance"?! Or...

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Same happened to me with a site which was above the fold on Pg1. Then- boom - nowhere. Not even page 999!

Don't panic. Mine returned to its rightful position a couple of days later. If it doesn't, try resubmitting the URL

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Avdo

I was doing pretty much the same for the last few months, and I was "google dancing" between 5th page and 1st page.. for the last month I was on 1st page constantly, and I was getting more and more visitors daily..
suddenly, two days ago my site disappeared from google SERPs!! I can't find it anywhere ranking for my keyword..

Frank, what do you think why that happened? My domain is 6 months old, is it because of that? Am I still under "google dance"?! Or...

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If nothing has changed on site, like maybe a new permalink structure, then its got to be your external links. Google bots are starting to get wise to all those external linking tricks, like XRumer and alike.

Check the sites linking to you, one crappy site that spams other sites can hurt your rankings. Also be sure to load the Simple Captcha plugin, it makes a difference.

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Avdo

15 years ago

Originally Posted by FrankBowman

If nothing has changed on site, like maybe a new permalink structure, then its got to be your external links.

Hi Frank,

nothing was changed, permalink structure is the same, but the only thing I changed was "reading settings", I've made a change to read a static page of my blog, not the latest post, and right after that change, my site disappeared.. What do you think, was that the reason?

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Avdo

Hi Frank,

nothing was changed, permalink structure is the same, but the only thing I changed was "reading settings", I've made a change to read a static page of my blog, not the latest post, and right after that change, my site disappeared.. What do you think, was that the reason?

Avdo,

Don't know, thats a little over my pay grade

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Why don't you try setting back the wayit was for a week or two and see what happens. If you jump back up to page 2, you'll know that was it.

BTW, I suspect that is in fact what caused your problem, but I can't be sure. I don't want to tell you something I am not 100% sure of.

Good Luck!!!

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Avdo

15 years ago

Originally Posted by FrankBowman

Avdo,

Don't know, thats a little over my pay grade

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Why don't you try setting back the wayit was for a week or two and see what happens. If you jump back up to page 2, you'll know that was it.

BTW, I suspect that is in fact what caused your problem, but I can't be sure. I don't want to tell you something I am not 100% sure of.

Good Luck!!!

Thanks Frank..will try to jump back to page 2, like you said, and we'll see what will happen

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Avdo 15 years ago

Originally Posted by FrankBowman

Why don't you try setting back the wayit was for a week or two and see what happens. If you jump back up to page 2, you'll know that was it.

Just an update.. I jumped back to page 2, and my site is again on #1 position on 1. page

Thanks for suggestion
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15 years ago

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by paulbarrs

Some good solid search engine basics, nice.

We hear too much crap and spam tactic these days. I've been doing these basics as you mentioned now for nearly ten years and almost always got the results I wanted.

Nice post.

- Paul

Its true, stick with the basics. Now it is also true that google puts an emphasis on backlinks as well, but if people could just see the forest ofr the trees, they'd realize that Google is always changing the variables in the algorythm, to bring more and more relevancy into their search results.

Look, I more adept at on-ste seo than off site, but look at the whole "profile linking" craze.

From what I can tell, not only do most forum owners now know to delete those ghost profiles, but Google must be decreasing the numeric value it gives to those types of links, simply because of the shear volume of them.........remember links farms?

In the time it takes to read thru the wso forum, read a threaad you think is good for backlinking, buy the product or service, if its a service, provide the info needed................you could write two articles and put them out on Free Traffic System blogs or go out and make 4 or 6 relevant comments on higher PR sites in your niche.

I don't understand the purpose of the short cuts.........of course I'm an old fart compared to most people trying to earn online today.

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ecllctpva

15 years ago

I am trying to get some of my website back on SERP after being penalized. I have implemented some of your tips. Will see how this goes for the website SEO.

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H3x

15 years ago

I use All In One SEO & Headspace 2 and most of my blogs are on page 1 for the keywords i target.

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FrankBowman 15 years ago

Originally Posted by H3x

I use All In One SEO & Headspace 2 and most of my blogs are on page 1 for the keywords i target.

I've played around with headspace2, do you see any difference in your ranking when you do not use it or when you use it all alone,............if you have used it that way?
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H3x

15 years ago

I use All In One SEO for Keywords and Titles and concentrate on Descriptions with Headspace2 and then make sure the H1 tag on the pages include my main keywords and it relates to the Title, Keywords and Description.

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by H3x

I use All In One SEO for Keywords and Titles and concentrate on Descriptions with Headspace2 and then make sure the H1 tag on the pages include my main keywords and it relates to the Title, Keywords and Description.

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Dan B Rusu

15 years ago

Frank, how much traffic are you pulling in daily at position 1 for your keyword? And what plugin do you use for the sponsor banners on your sidebar?

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FrankBowman 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel7rusu

Frank, how much traffic are you pulling in daily at position 1 for your keyword? And what plugin do you use for the sponsor banners on your sidebar?

Daniel, like I said the blog was launched about a week ago, so right now my organic traffic is minimal but it is growing growing everyday, steadily. What I need to do is rank for some more of my more often searched keywords, and that takes some more time, maybe two or three weeks.

As far as the sponsor adds, they were hard coded into the theme.

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W2L

15 years ago

platinum looks good or should I say "sounds good" ... I've been using All-in-One for a while...

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4morereferrals

15 years ago

Frank,

Interesting post.

I however have to question the purpose of going after such rareified long tails unless they are getting traffic. I mean I to could register the following:

www.blueyedoneleggedpigmynymphes.com install a word press blog with a title

Blue Eyed One Legged Pigmy Nymphs

Create a post titled

Blue Eyed One Legged Pigmy Nymphs - How I love Thee

sprinkle my keywords in there, ping it,bookamrk it, backlinks a few places and have it ranking fairly close to #1 Page 1 as well ... Let us not forget the cool youtube video - of the same name [ saw the flick the book was better ]

But doesnt any of this rely on going for KW's that actually get search traffic? THAT is the key to the master plan - IMHO.

Finding terms in niches that get searched with enough volume so you can get some eyeballs on your offer or get a list built or ...?

Hiring the hottest advertising team to create the most awesome cash sucking wallet emptying mouth watering - gotta hit the buy it now button offer - on Venus does us no good. People with credit cards need to be sse'ing it.

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Frank,

Interesting post.

I however have to question the purpose of going after such rareified long tails unless they are getting traffic. I mean I to could register the following:

www.blueyedoneleggedpigmynymphes.com install a word press blog with a title

Blue Eyed One Legged Pigmy Nymphs

Create a post titled

Blue Eyed One Legged Pigmy Nymphs - How I love Thee

sprinkle my keywords in there, ping it,bookamrk it, backlinks a few places and have it ranking fairly close to #1 Page 1 as well ... Let us not forget the cool youtube video - of the same name [ saw the flick the book was better ]

But doesnt any of this rely on going for KW's that actually get search traffic? THAT is the key to the master plan - IMHO.

Finding terms in niches that get searched with enough volume so you can get some eyeballs on your offer or get a list built or ...?

Hiring the hottest advertising team to create the most awesome cash sucking wallet emptying mouth watering - gotta hit the buy it now button offer - on Venus does us no good. People with credit cards need to be sse'ing it.

I completely agree, the longtail I'm refering to is "blog flipping tips", that however is not my main keyword(s). Blog flipping and website flipping are the ones I am shooting for.

I just made the post, because I thought it was interesting that someone could open up right out of the gate, after indexing at position 1 on page one, for that prhase.

Thats the point of the post.

Sure I could target "pineapple pizza in pittsburgh" and it wouldn't be very difficult to rank, but opening at #1, immediately after being indexed.........I, at least have never seen that.

Now for my main keywords I'm on page 2 and 3 respectively, and the sites only been indexed for 10 days. So hopefully I can hit page 1 on those shortly as well.

Frank

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Aira Bongco

15 years ago

I find this true in my experience. I also did all the things highlighted here and was able to snatch the top 1 ranking. Well, I added in a paid press release in a well known news network.

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poker princess

15 years ago

I agree with most of your content here. Good post, much appreciated. I agree with the targeting keyword for the domain name.

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Intrepreneur 15 years ago

Yes Frank. You are number 1 in Google but this doesn't mean it's going to make you a fortune. All it means is that you got number 1 in Google.

In regards of this you should also be doing everything in your power to ensure the blog makes the right impression which this one doesn't. It's going to be very ineffective without this thought too.

Go take some time to find out what your niche readers want and customize the site to give them that. Otherwise you are wasting your time.

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alansalton

15 years ago

Regarding #2 It has worked for me too.

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InternetMarketingIQ

15 years ago

This demonstrates that you are targeting low volume long tail keywords... that's it.

Try it for a competitive keyword phrase. Then report back.

If you can do that you are really on to something. If you can't then you are kind of wasting your time.

Because the real money is in ranking for keyword phrases that are commercial and competitive.

At some point you have got to out compete the competition.

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Melody

15 years ago

Has anyone used subdomains or WordpressMU subdomains for long tailed keywords effectively? I have ranked highly in the past with subdomains, based off of a very 'generic' TLD, even interlinking the various related niche subdomains, but have been away from site building for most of the past year - which is a long time in SEO terms.

So any advice on the current TLD vs SD rankings?

Melody

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4morereferrals

15 years ago

Hey Melody - good to see you! Where the heck have you been :-)

Ive played some games with wpmu's and sub-doms as well as subfolders with keywords.

Its pretty much the same issues - if its real long tail then it gets some traction if its a solid word with any competiton - the TLD is very helpful - sub doms and subfolders - not near as much as TLD.

I dont have any scientific experimenting - but has created and posted on well over 2500 wpmu sites/blogs with variants of keywords.

hxxp://my-keywords.joebobswpmuspot.net/

hxxp://joebobswmouspot.net/my-keywords/ <--- preferred

neither are as good as hxxp://your.keywords.com/yourwordpressblog!!!/keyword-post-title

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Has anyone used subdomains or WordpressMU subdomains for long tailed keywords effectively? I have ranked highly in the past with subdomains, based off of a very 'generic' TLD, even interlinking the various related niche subdomains, but have been away from site building for most of the past year - which is a long time in SEO terms.

So any advice on the current TLD vs SD rankings?

Melody

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robmena 15 years ago

We have been doing the same SEO tactics for over 12 years and they are still working fine for every project we do. We work with 300 keywords at a time for each project/website and have always seen good results, really good. We always get on page one for the majority of the 300 words. So SEO is still working great and if you invest in it, you will see the traffic around 4 to 6 months later or sooner.

Some people say its not worth it and I agree if your paying the outrageous prices most companies want. We don't care if your gonna make $50,000 a month from all the words, doesn't mean I'll charge you half of that. We keep it below $400 monthly regardless of what your gonna make and its the same work as those outrageous prices, if they only knew lol
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Melody

15 years ago

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

Hey Melody - good to see you! Where the heck have you been :-)

Ive played some games with wpmu's and sub-doms as well as subfolders with keywords.

Its pretty much the same issues - if its real long tail then it gets some traction if its a solid word with any competiton - the TLD is very helpful - sub doms and subfolders - not near as much as TLD.

I dont have any scientific experimenting - but has created and posted on well over 2500 wpmu sites/blogs with variants of keywords.

hxxp://my-keywords.joebobswpmuspot.net/

hxxp://joebobswmouspot.net/my-keywords/ <--- preferred

neither are as good as hxxp://your.keywords.com/yourwordpressblog!!!/keyword-post-title

Yes, haven't been posting much - my dad passed away in October and I have been spending my time between my mom's home in Reno Nevada and my home in Cincinnati - that is not a great commute, I can assure you! Fortunately, I just found her a great place in The Villages, Florida - which is close enough that I can drive in about the same time it takes me to fly to Reno right now

So, have been just sticking with the bigger projects for the last few months and finally getting back to the fun stuff now!

Melody

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robmena 15 years ago

Yea we can get SEO keywords in a matter of days or weeks but how competitive are they? The ones that are worth something to our clients take time and even if you get the competitive ones in a few days or weeks, how long do they stay? SEO in an ongoing service and should never be a one time charge, unless you plan to keep at without pay, come on now.

To: fasteasysuccess - Nothing is fast and easy if you want a real money making business, SEO takes time and more time after its done.
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- fasteasysuccess 15 years ago
  
  I disagree on this one with you completely Rob.
  
  For one-seo if done correctly shouldn't need constant adjustments. It doesn't matter how competitive and what keyword.
  
  Also sure I can also put something together literally in few minutes submit and have it up on top rankings 1st page in hour or two on any keyword for short term or I can spend more time and make permanent.
  
  Also with the comment that you will keep working and no pay is insane and again if done correctly you shouldn't have to maintain it constantly. If you're running your business right than once that project is complete they should be referring or ready to go with another project. You need to be providing maximum value always.
  
  It took a long time to learn and practice techniques that are unique, google friendly, and positive and now yes it is very fast and easy. At first no but now yes.
  
  Also you're comment nothing is fast and easy if you want to make money is wrong as well...
  
  Learn The knowledge, Put In Immediate Action, and Set Up Systems which is the initial hard work then if done correcly You Will Have a Very Very Profitable business online and or offline and things will come faster and easier than you thought possible.
  
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  Its plain and simple if you get someone a keyword on the first page and first position, it can be taken down with the things I do or other competitors. It happens everyday. That is called competition, so how can you just get a client and make them pay for it once. Yea you may get them the words but for how long until you move down. Its common sense and you dont even have to know SEO to know that. Google is always changing, if that was case we would never have new results.
  
  Yea i can sell once and get them to come back later, but id have alot of unhappy clients once the keywords go away in position and yes they will go away in time if not kept up.
  
  And like i said and you - we can rank in a few minutes for a keyword, but a keyword that doesn't matter to anyone and isn't worth having. If its worth something it will take sometime. Seo isn't a flip the switch deal, if it was everyone would be doing it.
  
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fasteasysuccess

15 years ago

my seo strategies using article, blog, video, and press release sites actually gets me top rankings in hours and or days for groups of keywords. When I work with clients I only charge one time investment versus expensive set ups and monthly costs. You can wait weeks or months to with the old school tactics of seo, but if you want extremely fast and positve offsite seo optimization , if done right can be up on google fast.

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heathsteel2

15 years ago

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that having a contact us and about us page would impact search results. amazing!

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15 years ago

How to set up Platinum SEO for best results in google? Many options there !!

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fasteasysuccess

15 years ago

Alright Rob Obviously all the search engines are changing all the time and that's why you need to know the trends. Which I do somethings to help clients with other search engines but my main focus is top rankings on google immediate and long term.

Of course there is new listings and rankings daily but I'm sure you know google recognizes and rewards google friendly techniques. So if you put up a million articles in a keyword and mines optimized correctly, you wont knock me off the page.

On the flipside if your stuffs seo crap and someone submits more stuff then goodbye rankings.

So maybe old school takes a lot of effort on your side, but I don't need to constantly be adjusting like I guess you mentioned you do.

Obviously I been doing something right considering every client I work using my techniques in last couple years either refers atleast once and or uses my services again and or both and never had one complaint about rankings dropping off.

It's all about value and doing it right the first time. Plus I must be doing it right considering I have seo firms coming to me as well for their clients and then they charge them.

SEO like you said seo isn't a flip/switch deal because everyone would be doing it.

The reason people hire other people to do services is because they don't know how to do something or don't want to take the time to learn it.

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