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adwords SCAM!

by DK7667
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Hi Fellow Marketers,

For those of you who have already suffered the bully tactics from google i.e the google slap, then I sympathise with you fully!

For those of you that haven't then here's the real deal:

There is no more mastering google adwords anymore as human inspectors simply close you down if they see that you are making the adwords system WORK FOR YOU.

They only like victims who have just started out or simply do not have master experience and are paying far too much per click.

Yes they are bully boys who hate to see ANYONE who has mastered their COMPUTER system, which is why now human inspectors are employed to route out the adwords masters.

This Is a Total Scam Company who are playing god & slapping everyone who MAKES THE SYSTEM WORK FOR THEM. They simply want only want un experienced VICTIMS, who pay so much over the top per click that it is simply impossible for them to have any profitable ROI.

I have been a master of the adwords system now since 2003, but after constant abuse from them following my constant success, I am now ready to spill the beans about this TOTAL RIP OFF ADWORDS SYSTEM/SCAM.

Years ago it was YOU & THE ADWORDS SYSTEM.

Now it's you & the adwords system but THEN THE HUMAN INSPECTORS who simply close you down if they see you have mastered any ad groups/campaigns.

It is therefore now impossible to have any real successful ongoing sustainable campaigns or ad groups.

I appreciate there must be other adword masters who feel the same way, but understandably are simply too scared etc to speak out.

I however used to be a very successful sports car dealer before becoming a very successful Internet marketer through the ORIGINAL FAIR Adwords System, but it has now got to a stage where ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

I refuse to be forced back in time where the only way to play ball with adwords Is To BECOME A BEGINNER HIGH OVER THE TOP PAYING VICTIM.

So here's the deal: If you don't mind being bullied by this company and paying stupidly over priced clicks, then DON'T LISTEN TO ME.

However if you have experienced or are currently experiencing these totally unacceptable bully tactics, Then Please SPEAK OUT!

This company (although now HUGE) CANNOT be allowed to continue with this totally unfair/imoral and unethical behavior.

They are NOT God, WE made them feel like God, but they have now simply abused their power.

In which case we ALL owe it to ourselfs to (at the very least) to SPEAK OUT The Truth.

They are not GOD, they are simply a company who has managed to (over the years) earn billions form US.

Therefore the World/US are in control, NOT them.
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All The Best,

Dave Kent
Profitable Products with Resell Rights
#adwords #scam
  • Profile picture of the author cellcom
    WoW!

    Yeah -they are like the school yard bully.

    Personally, I am done with them - plenty of other alternatives out there.

    Only thing I use google for is their free tools and they can still pay me through adsense and the free traffic I get from organic SEO. As far as paying them for traffic - nope.
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    • Profile picture of the author DK7667
      Originally Posted by cellcom View Post

      WoW!

      Yeah -they are like the school yard bully.

      Personally, I am done with them - plenty of other alternatives out there.

      Only thing I use google for is their free tools and they can still pay me through adsense and the free traffic I get from organic SEO. As far as paying them for traffic - nope.
      Nicely put!

      Also glad to see you have plenty of other alternatives out there, Well Done!
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        That sounds crappy, it really does (I'm hesitant to use Google Adwords now).

        But can you really blame them?

        You figured out the system, and you are getting your clicks for one or two pennies. Its great for you. Meanwhile, Google is losing money because you beat their algorithm or whatever.

        So Google ups the sustem, and its great for them because now you have to pay more. Now you are losing money because you have yet to beat the new algorithm.

        Its just business. You are trying to be as profitable as possible, and Google is doing the EXACT SAME THING. Someone is always going to be the loser, just put in some work and beat the new algorithm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spinethetic
    Adwords is too saturated with competition for me. There are plenty of alternate network advertisers out there that may have a smaller market reach, but when you crunch some investment numbers you'll soon see that it is well worth it to try alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author matts5150
    I know how you feel, Google fights me harder than my competitors. I'm not exagerating either, one day quality rating of 10/10 with major ctr, next day same keyword 4/10, What? How? Create new campaign same keyword, start at 7/10 by midday back to 10/10, and a few days later back to 4/10 where the ad doesn't show. Start all over again...
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    • Profile picture of the author DK7667
      Originally Posted by matts5150 View Post

      I know how you feel, Google fights me harder than my competitors. I'm not exagerating either, one day quality rating of 10/10 with major ctr, next day same keyword 4/10, What? How? Create new campaign same keyword, start at 7/10 by midday back to 10/10, and a few days later back to 4/10 where the ad doesn't show. Start all over again...
      I know how you feel, however whilst only the system itself is knocking you down, you can still fight back to then eventually beat the system. That's when the humans step in and route you out as a master.
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  • Profile picture of the author W2L
    Tried YSM yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author howinfo
      I do not know much about adwords and I am one of those what you call beginner, with the capital B when it comes to adwords.

      I have used adwords few times for some of my project and the result have been satisfactory and I would say even better than expected. I did great some ad campaigns and set the limit for the clicks and set the budget for a day, based on how much I could afford and how much I saw fit for my project. I was in control all the time. I can not really see how they can scam me.

      Can you be more specific so I would know what to look out for.
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      • Profile picture of the author DK7667
        Originally Posted by howinfo View Post

        I do not know much about adwords and I am one of those what you call beginner, with the capital B when it comes to adwords.

        I have used adwords few times for some of my project and the result have been satisfactory and I would say even better than expected. I did great some ad campaigns and set the limit for the clicks and set the budget for a day, based on how much I could afford and how much I saw fit for my project. I was in control all the time. I can not really see how they can scam me.

        Can you be more specific so I would know what to look out for.
        Well until you have mastered adwords there shouldn't be anything to look out for whatsoever. Only once you start getting Extremely high CTR with "lOADS" of clicks costing 1 pence in the number 1 or 2 position, this then applies as you have beaten the system. That's when the humans now step in and manually stop your ads from showing.

        They don't want masters paying 1 pence per click when they can have beginers to average or even so called experts paying 10 to 20 or even 30 - 50 TIMES MORE.
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        • Profile picture of the author Caro
          Gosh!

          I advertise a lot on Adwords PPC - in fact it is the main source of my traffic. And I get great results from it.

          I've been slapped many times. I've hated it when it happens. I've stomped my feet, pouted and even thought of giving up.

          And I always found a solution eventually to get back up and running.

          I guess I look at it very differently. I don't tend to take an attitude in life in general that people are scammers, out to do us wrong etc. And I do tend to have more positive experiences than not.

          I look at it that Google Adwords are updating their algorithms to further fulfill their mission of "do not evil" (I can't recall the exact quote - so apologies if I have not quoted exactly).

          And because of that, they may mean that I no longer meet the grade - as the bar has gone higher.

          So I need to learn to jump that higher bar.

          It is frustrating when it happens. I know if/when it happens again I'll be frustrated. I might pout some more, slam some doors, and ultimately I'll get on with it - as I make a fantastic profit from using adwords.

          It kills me - as my traffic/revenue/profit is dramatically reduced over the time period it takes me to discover what the miracle cure is to get back up and running.

          And I have of course tested other paid traffic sources - and Adwords works best for me for my main niche.

          I do get annoyed how the Adwords support staff wont actually give you a definitive answer - instead you have this circular conversation where they tell you it's not right as is, you ask what you need to do to make it right, and they respond that you need to work that out yourself...

          And no amount of badgering, asking for someone more senior etc will get them to change otherwise.

          I am always human approved - I have been since about 2006. To me that's not a new element.

          I'm thankful to Adwords for the income they make possible to me by advertising on them.

          Yes they are mecurial, mysterious and capricious at times. Just like being in a relationship with a high maintenance person. But I need Adwords more than they need me - so I learn to adapt to and thrive off their changed rules.

          My bank balance is certainly healthier for me taking that attitude and approach.

          I don't think we need to make others (like Adwords) wrong because they've raised their bar. We simply choose to find a solution to jump over it again or we don't.

          My time is better utilized finding that solution than complaining - as complaints don't make me money - solutions do.

          AND - yes they do frustrate me, yes I'm sure I'll curse them again, yes I appreciate firsthand how galling it is when they seem to negate you, when previously you were a 'star' - it is what it is.

          Caro :-)
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          • Profile picture of the author BaloneyTony
            Originally Posted by Caro :-) View Post

            I've been slapped many times. I've hated it when it happens. I've stomped my feet, pouted and even thought of giving up.

            And I always found a solution eventually to get back up and running.
            Interested to hear what changes you and others have made to make Google happy.
            I recently got slapped for having a "bridge page". Anyone have any tips so Google does not view my landing page as a "bridge page"?
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        • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
          Originally Posted by DK7667 View Post

          Well until you have mastered adwords there shouldn't be anything to look out for whatsoever. Only once you start getting Extremely high CTR with "lOADS" of clicks costing 1 pence in the number 1 or 2 position, this then applies as you have beaten the system. That's when the humans now step in and manually stop your ads from showing.
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          This is when I got banned. When I started to pay penny clicks and was getting many of them. Still want to return to them though so gotta figure out how.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Was the OP promoting goods / services that fall into the no go zone with G terms ?, as for price being to expensive, a tired argument, google does not set any prices the account holder does and as such can only look in the mirror for paying high prices.
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    • Profile picture of the author DK7667
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      Was the OP promoting goods / services that fall into the no go zone with G terms ?, as for price being to expensive, a tired argument, google does not set any prices the account holder does and as such can only look in the mirror for paying high prices.
      No violations relating to their advertising policies whatsoever.

      As far as paying too high is concerned, that's not the issue here, it's when you pay too low as a master, i.e until you have mastered adwords there shouldn't be anything to look out for whatsoever. Only once you start getting Extremely high CTR with "lOADS" of clicks costing 1 pence in the number 1 or 2 position, this then applies as you have beaten the system. That's when the humans now step in and manually stop your ads from showing.

      They don't want masters paying 1 pence per click when they can have beginers to average or even so called experts paying 10 to 20 or even 30 - 50 TIMES MORE.
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  • Profile picture of the author l23bc
    Never use Adwords to comment but i did use adsense for 3 whole years and tried to keep google please such as content professionaly written and uniqe,terms and privacy updated never clicked my own ads or paid for traffic then when i came back off from holiday after 3 years my site is sandboxed on google,Then risk to advertsiement rubbish email sent to my account

    But like someone has said adwords is not expensive unless you dont control on what words you bid on.The reason i have never used it is because i have been too scared too,But to call it a scam when there professional ppc people on the forum is like trying to shoot fish in a barrel.

    I agree the whole inetrnet marketing and adwords is saturated but its all about thinking out of the box.

    They have the domerance for search engine with 90% percent traffic going to Google, You could try Cpa Networks if Google is no longer the thing for you

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  • Profile picture of the author KirkMcD
    Wow, I guess I should go pull all my highly profitable campaigns and show Google they can't get me.
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    No offense Dave,

    I can understand where you're coming from, but have you ever considered that you're not doing it correctly, or putting enough research into your selective keywords?

    I mean, your rant sounds a little paranoiac...

    To say that they hunt out the masters I think is a little far fetched, I know of people who spend over 100k a month and still do ok. And have you heard of Anik Singal and Amit Metha complaining, of PPC Classroom dot com?

    Seriously, hunting them out?

    They're hired to be quality controllers, to ensure that user end experience is at the best at all times.

    Originally Posted by DK7667 View Post


    Yes they are bully boys who hate to see ANYONE who has mastered their COMPUTER system, which is why now human inspectors are employed to route out the adwords masters.
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  • Profile picture of the author damham
    why not use bing or yahoo not as much traffic but cheaper (SOMETIMES)
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