Which backlink type do you find to be the most powerful method?

16 years ago

The best approach is all of them together, if you build links from just one source then one google algorithm change can see your sites rankings disappear, you should aim to get links from a number of different sources so that even if google puts less weight on say article links then you still have plenty of links from other sources so your rankings wont be lost.

also these types of links are links that any siteowner themselves can get and google does know this, to take your link building to the next level you need to start getting incontext links from established sites in your niche, you can do this a number of ways from contacting sites in your niche and offering to pay for them or offering to do a guest post for them which contains a link back to your site.

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M0n3yMan

16 years ago

Im afraid google can detect different types of links, I am no programmer but I could knock up a php script to detect most blog comments so im sure there programmers are capable of alot better and even forget about programming they could afford to hire lots of people to manually find lists of article directories, free blog hosts, directory sites etc and add them into there system. Im not saying that these links are totally worthless im just saying not all links are equal.

also if they couldnt detect different types of links then all it would take is a quick xrumer blast or a scrabe box blog comment run and get 10000 links and be number 1 in 99% of niches which isnt the case.

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dwightsmith2009 16 years ago

It is said there was a vote about this in DigitalPoint Forum:
The first 3:
1.blog commenting 2. press release 3.articles
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- Jeff S 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by dwightsmith2009
  
  It is said there was a vote about this in DigitalPoint Forum:
  The first 3:
  1.blog commenting 2. press release 3.articles
  
  ...goes to show you what the folks at DP know
  
  Matt Cutts and other G resources have specifically stated the ineffectiveness of blog comments. Part of that is their spin however because plenty of our tests still show some SERP movement for sites we only do blog commenting on....at least for now.
  
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  Steller 16 years ago
  
  Google surely can tell, other wise website directories would still work. That's why no one submits to directories anymore. I am interested to see what links google starts to discount next. I have heard that blog comments are on there way out but we will see.
  
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jazbo

16 years ago

No backlinks are not backlinks. You are suggesting all backlinks are of equal value, which is just not true.

Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions

Exactly. That's why people who know what they're doing are making banks with Xrumer!

Backlinks are backlinks. If you're stupid even Article Marketing can get your sites sandbox'ed.

Negative SEO can not work to an extent because one could easily abuse it by spamming the competitor.

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M0n3yMan

16 years ago

Firstly I never said anything about negative seo, I just said you will not get top rankings by doing 1 xrumer blast, I know xrumer and other tools are powerful if you USE them right.

But to be fair most people utalise parasite hosting to leverage the authority of that domain when they do xrumer blasts, and some people utalise parasite hosting as a buffer to there money sites, so yes people are making bank with xrumer but not by blasting there money sites with thousands of links.

I agree that if you have a chance to get a backlink then get one BUT not all backlinks are EQUAL. Why d you think directory submissions are not as effective as they were 4 years ago, why do you think reciprical links are not as effective.

Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions

Exactly. That's why people who know what they're doing are making banks with Xrumer!

Backlinks are backlinks. If you're stupid even Article Marketing can get your sites sandbox'ed.

Negative SEO can not work to an extent because one could easily abuse it by spamming the competitor.

Correct?

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Marko Vel

16 years ago

Originally Posted by simpleonline1234

In your opinion what method do you find seems to give your site the most boost in the rankings?

Articles
Profile backlinks
Blog commenting
Linkwheels

I figure this would be a good thread for the new folks to help them out along their path to success.

Put them all together and you will get winner combination.

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sarah-anne

16 years ago

Originally Posted by simpleonline1234

In your opinion what method do you find seems to give your site the most boost in the rankings?

Articles
Profile backlinks
Blog commenting
Linkwheels

I figure this would be a good thread for the new folks to help them out along their path to success.

I agree with you, those four methods really help you most.

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kkchoon

16 years ago

Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions

Google can't really distinguish one from the other.

Bottom line: Get as many backlinks as you can from a diverse range of IP.

Don't worry about anything else and go easy on brand new sites.

I disagree, my experience tells me Google knows...

The details of how, I don't know. But they seems to catch on with similar and same link type!

Originally Posted by M0n3yMan

The best approach is all of them together, if you build links from just one source then one google algorithm change can see your sites rankings disappear, you should aim to get links from a number of different sources so that even if google puts less weight on say article links then you still have plenty of links from other sources so your rankings wont be lost.

I must agree to this, very true. Try to build and diversify your link building effort to as many link types as possible.

Originally Posted by simpleonline1234

In your opinion what method do you find seems to give your site the most boost in the rankings?

Articles
Profile backlinks
Blog commenting
Linkwheels

I figure this would be a good thread for the new folks to help them out along their path to success.

My experience - The easiest to gain is profile links, and the most powerful is high PR authority links, it doesn't matter which link type.

Link wheels doesn't give much link power unless your network is very big, and receive a lot of backlinks to each property.

Originally Posted by M0n3yMan

Im afraid google can detect different types of links, I am no programmer but I could knock up a php script to detect most blog comments so im sure there programmers are capable of alot better and even forget about programming they could afford to hire lots of people to manually find lists of article directories, free blog hosts, directory sites etc and add them into there system. Im not saying that these links are totally worthless im just saying not all links are equal.

also if they couldnt detect different types of links then all it would take is a quick xrumer blast or a scrabe box blog comment run and get 10000 links and be number 1 in 99% of niches which isnt the case.

I'm not sure Google using what kind of method, it doesn't matter, but Google does seems know how to distinguish between different link types... based on my observation and experience.

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M0n3yMan

16 years ago

Ok we are going to have to agree to disagree,

So to sum up years of advanced programming googles backlink analysing algorithm is pr/obl=link quality???

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Crew Chief

16 years ago

Originally Posted by simpleonline1234

In your opinion what method do you find seems to give your site the most boost in the rankings?

Articles
Profile backlinks
Blog commenting
Linkwheels

I figure this would be a good thread for the new folks to help them out along their path to success.

Actually, there is no best method, as some of the responders have stated; it's a combination of many different sources. However, to be honest, having your own back link network is the best way to go. Set it up and then bring like minded individuals who have set up or are willing to set up their own networks like yours and then bring them together corporately. Works like a charm! You can generate thousands of backlinks on demand when you have the right amount of people in your network!

Originally Posted by M0n3yMan

The best approach is all of them together, if you build links from just one source then one google algorithm change can see your sites rankings disappear, you should aim to get links from a number of different sources so that even if google puts less weight on say article links then you still have plenty of links from other sources so your rankings wont be lost.

also these types of links are links that any siteowner themselves can get and google does know this, to take your link building to the next level you need to start getting incontext links from established sites in your niche, you can do this a number of ways from contacting sites in your niche and offering to pay for them or offering to do a guest post for them which contains a link back to your site.

That last statement is the old school way of obtaining back links. It works but it is time consuming as all get out.

Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions

Google can't really distinguish one from the other.

Bottom line: Get as many backlinks as you can from a diverse range of IP.

Don't worry about anything else and go easy on brand new sites.

Actually, Google and everyone else can determine the source of back links. That feat is not such a big deal. Remember when they deindexed German BMW after those boys got caught building back links on doorway pages: German BMW Banned From Google

In addition, most of the latest SEO software have features to tell if a site has .edu, .gov, DMOZ and YAH backlinks at the click of a button. So yes they can tell but unless a person is using beelack hat tactics and gets outed by a competitor or furious customer, the Big G may never know what's going on behind the scenes.

And far as your other statements, you're dead on!

Oh, and XRummer is still got the juice!

Originally Posted by dwightsmith2009

It is said there was a vote about this in DigitalPoint Forum:
The first 3:
1.blog commenting 2. press release 3.articles

DP vote... ha, ha, ha, ha, ha... yawn, falling to sleep now :p...

Originally Posted by Jeff Scott

...goes to show you what the folks at DP know

Yep, Yep, Yep, Kudos to dwightsmith2009...

Matt Cutts and other G resources have specifically stated the ineffectiveness of blog comments. Part of that is their spin however because plenty of our tests still show some SERP movement for sites we only do blog commenting on....at least for now.

You're right! Matt Cutts is a sly fox and he's not going to spill the beans on Google's proprietary engineering algorithms. Our team tracks Matt Cutts and other Google big wigs and you need to know that when they make statements, you have to read between the lines. Don't believe the inference. I've put comments on Google's blogs and have gotten link juice and still do!

Originally Posted by jazbo

No backlinks are not backlinks. You are suggesting all backlinks are of equal value, which is just not true.

This debate has the potential to go on forever in a never ending circular motion... personally, I like to prove stuff, that's why I took a number of sites in fiercely contested niches and intentionally built a myriad of "No Follow" back links. I knew they would be picked up by the SERPs but the most important question was, "Do they pass link juice?" The answer was and is "Yes!"

People can scream "No Follow" links are worthless crap from the mountain tops but I can tell you that many SE Bots evidently don't know, understand or comprehend what "No Follow" is.

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ample

16 years ago

Blog comment would be the easiest but finding high PR and dofollow need some time.

Blog commenting may sometime look spammy if not done right. Quality link wheel take time to build up othe wise it look more like 'spam link' farm.

Some profile type take time to get index and recognize by G as backlink.

Google can tell type of link somehow from pattern, blog comment link is at bottom and comes in after post content's date. Link wheel have all out going links in post content to different sites (its not proven). - just my two cents

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Crew Chief

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ample

Blog comment would be the easiest but finding high PR and dofollow need some time.

Use the SEO Quake Firefix Addon and forgetaboutit. Read the instructions before using, otherwise Google may come knocking on your front door!

ONce you learn how to use, finding do follow blogs will be a cinch!

Originally Posted by ample

Blog commenting may sometime look spammy if not done right. Quality link wheel take time to build up othe wise it look more like 'spam link' farm.

This is correctamundo!

Originally Posted by ample

Some profile type take time to get index and recognize by G as backlink.

Actually, people who have learned OTB Obtaining Tactical Backlinks know how to get profiles and comments indexed and counted for at will.

Originally Posted by ample

Google can tell type of link somehow from pattern, blog comment link is at bottom and comes in after post content's date. Link wheel have all out going links in post content to different sites (its not proven). - just my two cents

Sometimes IMer's over think, think to hard, give the Big G too much credit and underestimate their ability. Case in point, up until the end of last year, various IM skammers exploited the Google trademark using Google's Adwords, Google's organic SERPs, and virtually all of the major online newspapers such as the NYDailynews, WashingtonPost, etc.

You remember the spammy Google work at home ads? The ones they led the masses to believe they would be working for Google? Those guys ran Adwords campaigns, built blog networks on Blogger and ran hundreds of websites for almost four years before consumers realized it was a sham and started complaining to the FTC.

They made it to the top of Google's SERPs because they understood how to build networks.

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herisetiyawan

16 years ago

I think,back link from article web is more effective..But it depends on it's PR...and dofollow or nofollow..dofollow will be better..

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randalblanchette

16 years ago

Linkwheels if done 'right' are pretty effective. The added benefit is if you control all of the links to and from the wheel. Kinda like a funnel with legs...lol

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SuperSi

16 years ago

I have had the best results using blog comments.

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taufandilog 16 years ago

Originally Posted by cadehugue

Dofollow forum posting and blog commenting are 2 of the most conveneint methods of builidng backlnks.

well..I agree with this. Forum posting and blog commenting. But I love the article too
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kkchoon

16 years ago

I would say authority blog commenting and article backlinks are 2 of my favorite white hat strategy, while profile links will be my main strategy to jump start the traffic.

I love profile links for the fact that it works effectively. Some might argue its' Gray hat method, but that's the fastest way to rank and get traffic! Until I found another effective way, profile links will still be one of my most important strategy to ranking!

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Cheryl_James

16 years ago

There doesn't seem to be any consensus here. I guess it is kind of like the 'duplicate content' debate.

Bummer... I was hoping to learn something from this thread.

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Marko Vel

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Cheryl_James

There doesn't seem to be any consensus here. I guess it is kind of like the 'duplicate content' debate.

Bummer... I was hoping to learn something from this thread.

Simply you can't be never sure of what really works and what does not. Depends on a lot of things:
Original and quality articles on your site
Have you used the right keywords
How many competitors you have
What kind of link wheel you using etc etc...

Today something is working for you tomorrow it will be something else, so you have to try a lot of thing to research a little bit and for sure you will learn a lot of useful thing around here

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Crew Chief

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Cheryl_James

There doesn't seem to be any consensus here. I guess it is kind of like the 'duplicate content' debate.

Bummer... I was hoping to learn something from this thread.

Cheryl_James, actually you just learned an EXTREMELY valuable lesson... drum roll please... and that is...

There is more ways to get the job done than we can shake a stick at. Some people stick with what they are comfortable with. Other are adventurous and will venture into most or all facets of backlinking.

When done right, they all will work. As far as which one is more powerful than the other. That's like asking if a backlink from Mixx is more powerful than a backlink from PRWEb.com or more powerful than a backink from Ezinearticles.com?

At any given time those sites will have page ranks fluctuating (of late) between a PR6 and a PR8. So which gives the better link juice? It doesn't matter!!! As long as you have backlinks from sources like that, you are ROCKIN!

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AllThingsArePossible

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

Cheryl_James, actually you just learned an EXTREMELY valuable lesson... drum roll please... and that is...

At any given time those sites will have page ranks fluctuating (of late) between a PR6 and a PR8. So which gives the better link juice? It doesn't matter!!! As long as you have backlinks from sources like that, you are ROCKIN!

I think it does matter because a link from a ezinearticles is PR zero if one is doing submissions...a PR of zero is worthless

you're better of submitting to web 2.0 articles instead

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Jamian

16 years ago

Whatever you do make sure use these methods: Submitting Articles, Blog commenting,
Forum posting, Bookmarking, RSS submission, Posting videos, Press release,
Directory submission, Social network, Free traffic system, Paid links.

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actionplanbiz

16 years ago

i say articles and profile sites. blog commenting is prolly not as secure. but all are very useful, i used them all

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terryreeves

16 years ago

Just my opinion...

Articles - Obsolete for SEO, OK for sporadic traffic.
Profile backlinks - Obsolete, a complete waste of money/time.
Blog commenting - A waste of time for anything even remotely competitive.
Linkwheels - Under some circumstances, it will work but not through the methods commonly available to the average webmaster.

Start with contextual text links in large numbers (hundreds a month) and monitor the results. When your site approaches page one, two or three, point more contextual text links to those keywords until there is no more movement. From there, the real work begins.

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punksluck

16 years ago

Originally Posted by terryreeves

Just my opinion...

Articles - Obsolete for SEO, OK for sporadic traffic.
Profile backlinks - Obsolete, a complete waste of money/time.
Blog commenting - A waste of time for anything even remotely competitive.
Linkwheels - Under some circumstances, it will work but not through the methods commonly available to the average webmaster.

Start with contextual text links in large numbers (hundreds a month) and monitor the results. When your site approaches page one, two or three, point more contextual text links to those keywords until there is no more movement. From there, the real work begins.

I like your opinion

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adam westrop

16 years ago

Originally Posted by terryreeves

Just my opinion...

Articles - Obsolete for SEO, OK for sporadic traffic.
Profile backlinks - Obsolete, a complete waste of money/time.
Blog commenting - A waste of time for anything even remotely competitive.
Linkwheels - Under some circumstances, it will work but not through the methods commonly available to the average webmaster.

Start with contextual text links in large numbers (hundreds a month) and monitor the results. When your site approaches page one, two or three, point more contextual text links to those keywords until there is no more movement. From there, the real work begins.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha funny.... Plus articles in some instances like with goarticles are contextual links. Lets just all go out and get 1000's of contextual links... And should we get these from PR0 sites? Great worth with them right???

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