Is PageRank 5 hard to achieve?

If his competition are high PR and relevant with great links then they will be hard to beat. People state that PR isn't everything and that's true but when high PR pages tick ALL the boxes, not just PR, they are very hard to beat.

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SEOExpert104

16 years ago

Fernando,
Maybe he is a site flipper, and in my experience I know that site buyers are crazy for the PR.

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duia

16 years ago

To achieve PR 5 is really a hard work. For example, one of my blog, which is aboit two year old,is still keeping PR4. If you want to gain a PR5, then it will mean that you need to spend lots of time and energy on building backlinks for your sites.
Of course, if you are interested it, link exchange is a good way to achieve it easily.

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tijay

16 years ago

Find a PR6 or PR7 backlink and there you have it

Might be a little difficult to do though.

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SEO ibiza

16 years ago

Originally Posted by cjmo75

I can only speak from experience, but I have a blog that has been PR4 for about a year now. I have been steadily building backlinks and Webmaster tools says I have almost 2100 backlinks. I would say it's difficult at best to go from 4 to 5.

pagerank is a logarithmic function, and the best guess-timation is at about base 6.

meaning that PR0 x 6 = PR1 , PR 1 X 6 = PR2 etc..

so to get from 4 to 5 you need to build another 6 x PR4 sites worth of links.

so yes, it can be done, but not without lots of work.

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Peter Helps

16 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO ibiza

pagerank is a logarithmic function, and the best guess-timation is at about base 6.

meaning that PR0 x 6 = PR1 , PR 1 X 6 = PR2 etc..

so to get from 4 to 5 you need to build another 6 x PR4 sites worth of links.

so yes, it can be done, but not without lots of work.

Can you explain this further? Are you saying that in order to get from PR 4 to PR5, one needs to build 6 PR4 sites' links linking back to one's website?

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SEO ibiza

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Peter Helps

Can you explain this further? Are you saying that in order to get from PR 4 to PR5, one needs to build 6 PR4 sites' links linking back to one's website?

Thank you,

Peter

no sorry for the confusion in my explanation, one needs to build the equivalent of another 5 x PR4 sites in linkstrengthto your first site, not actually build the sites and link from them, that won't do it.

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SamstaUK

16 years ago

So is pagerank 4 an easy target, or is it still a really big job?

This has given me the motivation I need to actually write down my targets, and plan what I will do each day (You wouldn't believe how easily I get distracted).

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jmcg084 16 years ago

Just keep at the link building Sam, also make sure you are building good, quality, credible content too. This will naturally get you the PR you want all in good time. =)
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Mike Anthony

16 years ago

Originally Posted by SamstaUK

So is pagerank 4 an easy target, or is it still a really big job?

Depends entirely on the keyword you are targeting. People make the mistake of looking at PR all the time. You don't get PR based on keywords targeted so even a PR 10 is not going to rank for everything.

So sure you can beat a PR4 for a number of terms.

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Tom Goodwin

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Depends entirely on the keyword you are targeting. People make the mistake of looking at PR all the time. You don't get PR based on keywords targeted so even a PR 10 is not going to rank for everything.

So sure you can beat a PR4 for a number of terms.

Hiya Mike,

It is a bit confusing because of the posters use of the word "target", but I think the poster was asking whether it was easy to get his or her site to PR 4 (along the lines of the OP asking if PR5 was attainable), and not whether it was easy or hard to outrank someone else's PR4 domain in the SERPs.

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gameutopia

16 years ago

I still say pr5 can be difficult, and that it used to be easier than what it is now like google change the algorithm making it more difficult. A pr4 and even less can beat a pr5 in a search result. It all in the seo of the site, pages, keywords, and quality and number of backlinks.

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Mike Adams

16 years ago

Just to give you an idea of how hard it is. This comes from the StomperNet series by Brad Fallon and Andy Jenkins.

Page rank is exponential, so however hard it is to go from PR0 to PR1, you will have to double that to got to PR2. Simple so far. You will then have to create 3 times the linking power of that PR2 content to become a PR3... 4 times the PR3 to become a PR4.

Imagine becoming a PR6, lets say it took you 10,000 links to get to a PR6. You would need 7 times the PR6 to be a PR7 so you would need 70,000 of those same quality links.

Thats why you dont see as many PR 7, 8, 9 & only 3 or 4 PR10 (Google, Whitehouse.gov, W3C.org, usa.gov, india.gov.in, get.adobe.com/flashplayer/)

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Daniel Molano

16 years ago

If you want a PR5 you'll need something like Traffic Sage for at least 6 months and 2 PR updates. That's a forced PR5 of course.

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nimitkashyap

16 years ago

It seems that its very difficult to achieve PR 5

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Derek S

16 years ago

You can get a PR 4 real easy if you work on getting quality high PR backlinks. Don't worry about the PR of your site as it only really means how frequent google crawls your site.

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Strange

16 years ago

I started a blob back in 2009 and achieved a pagerank 6 within months of only writing a few articles, this pagerank didnt effect the traffic, infact it made no difference. I got this pagerank by only getting links from relevant sites with high pagerank. My site was text based with maybe 1 or 2 images.

You can get 1000's of visitors a day with a PR 0.

PS: Funny thing about the PR 6 blog i created, the content had no keyword research and was written as it was with no intention of SEO. I had no idea about keyword research.. e.t.c..

Perhaps Google likes the personal stuff but no one wants to take the risk of finding out... mu ha ha.. lol

Matt

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SEO ibiza 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Strange

I started a blob back in 2009 and achieved a pagerank 6 within months

Matt

a PR6 blob eh? sounds scary..

and thats pretty unusual too dude, did Google link to you or something?

we have a client site that went PR5 just as we took it on, and was more than 2 years to get 6, with links from the Sunday Times, Telegraph, New York Times, you name it they linked to us, and it still took 2 years.

is yours real -ie justified by the amount / power of your links?

or do you think it might be some erroneous reading? you cant rely on the toolbar very much anymore, for a couple of years now in fact.
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- Strange 16 years ago
  
  Lol, yes blob is the new blog.
  
  I know i was pretty shocked too, i don't believe google linked to me, at the time there were alot of rumors about google giving new sites high authority, maybe this is how i achieved a good PR, I highly doubt this is the case now though. Google works in mysterious ways.
  
  Wish i still had the blob.
  
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frqhuss

16 years ago

You first need work on promoting your blog daily and also see what you compititers are doing and follow the things from them which you think will increase pr..

Smartworl+Hardwork is very important to do.......

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nadia712

16 years ago

As some other people here have said, if you're just looking to outrank those sites, PR means very little. However, if your competition all have a high domain age with tons of high authority backlinks - which means that Google favours authority sites for that term - and you're trying to outrank them with a brand new site and few backlinks, you could be in for a pretty rough fight. If there's even one site in the top ten that doesn't fit that criteria, though, you're in with a shot. You just have to figure out what that site is doing for backlinks, and replicate/better it. Good luck!

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hotftuna

16 years ago

I own 25 sites and only one is PR5. Site in my sig.

Funny thing is that although the site has plently of backlinks, I have done nothing to gain backlinks or SEO the site in the two years I have owned it.

The inbounds are older and natural.

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seomixi

16 years ago

It would be better if you focus on getting your website in top 10 result of search engine rather than focusing of PR. There are many examples in the past where a low PR site or even PR0 website came in top 10 result of Google but higher PR sites didn't.

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hotftuna

16 years ago

Originally Posted by seomixi

It would be better if you focus on getting your website in top 10 result of search engine rather than focusing of PR. There are many examples in the past where a low PR site or even PR0 website came in top 10 result of Google but higher PR sites didn't.

While that may be true, PR is very important if respect from the IM & SEO community is a factor in your business model.

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Dr.faizan

16 years ago

For PR 5 you need to post at least 2000 articles and at least 1000 followers to your blog.. But the most important thing is Content. Rember Quality Content + Good backlinks = KING

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kkchoon

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Dr.faizan

For PR 5 you need to post at least 2000 articles and at least 1000 followers to your blog.. But the most important thing is Content. Rember Quality Content + Good backlinks = KING

Content alone won't get you there, you need to have massive backlinks. If your main site is PR 5 and above, you can start targeting a lot of long tail keywords traffic even without backlinks to those pages, that's why more long tail keyword targeted content, more traffic!

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RedEvo 16 years ago

One of my sites has a PageRank 6 homepage with only 120 links.

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- kkchoon 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by RedEvo
  
  One of my sites has a PageRank 6 homepage with only 120 links.
  
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  If all links from High PR pages, that will do! Can you share any tips on doing this?
  
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  RedEvo 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by kkchoon
  
  If all links from High PR pages, that will do! Can you share any tips on doing this?
  
  I suppose owning a site with a PageRank 7 homepage helps
  
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seostone

16 years ago

A couple of solid high PR and maybe some profile backlinks will do the job. Head over to the BST forum here, and play around with some providers.

Dont expect to reach PR5 fast with a wrongfully formated or seo'd page. Read Google's guidelines and follow them. They practically teach you how to achieve good rankings. There is no secret really, just follow their guidelines and build links.

I have gotten website from no PR over to PR6 in about 7-8 weeks with consistent links.

Andrew

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zoobie

16 years ago

Originally Posted by SamstaUK

Looking at my competition, their pages are PageRank 3 - 5.
I'm hoping that getting my blog to PageRank 5 will get me closer, or on the front page.

How much work would I have to do, in order to get from 0 to 5?

Cheers,
Sam

I don't really care about Google Page Rank. It really means nothing.
Google use tons of factors to determine which site outranks which site.

A Google PR value is just a reference but in reality it means nothing but confusing
indicator in my opinion.