oDesk for linkbuilding? Suggestions/opinions?

by Adam7
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Hey everyone,

I decided that in my hunt to bring in more organic traffic to my site (just running adsense right now) I should probably give oDesk a try. It seems like an amazing idea, and the setup seems pretty intuitive and easy to use.

I posted a job to try to get someone to do some SEM and linkbuilding. Can anyone give me some suggestions on what to look for, what to avoid, some of the pitfalls, etc. Any help is greatly appreciated, I'm sure many of you have good advice to offer!
#linkbuilding #odesk #sem #suggestions or opinions
  • Profile picture of the author bluelambda
    You need to explain VERY clearly what you want done, don't assume that they know. Also, you should give similar tasks to maybe 2-3 people and invariably only one will provide quality results at the right price point. Use this person for recurring projects.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam7
      Helps a lot, thanks. I will definitely try several first.
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  • Profile picture of the author cqtr56
    oDesk was a painful experience for me. There are just so many people knowing nothing but wanting too much. I will try it again once i have a lot of time screening and communicating with candidates.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosaline
    You can hire people for forum posting.Forum posting is the best way to get traffic.But one thing you should remember that experience is the main aspect in forum posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander CPA
    Generally when outsourcing your work to websites like this, mainly oDesk; you need to watch out for people who will plain and simple, do a terrible job, you definitly need to find somebody who knows what are talking about and infact is a SEO expert.

    Not just somebody in some asian country (Not a rascit remark), offering dirt-cheap backlink services, but not knowing anything about SEO. Just my two-cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    I had a lot of success with few except!

    oDesk not only save me time and money, I can easily find good people from Philippines and India! I can't imagine work without it.

    However, up until today I only outsource fix amount job, not hourly job. As long as you know how to write detail spec (sometime with picture & video), they will follow exactly and deliver on time.

    Few things to bare in mind:

    1. You need to write good spec.
    2. Your worker must be responsive, reply your email in 6 hours or less during working time.
    3. Your worker should have skype or other IM communicator, at least they must response fast with email.
    4. You should start small project to find good people, once identified them, build good relationship with them. I like to pay more - as bonus for my favorite worker.

    My usual rate for 1,000 backlinks is about 100, but I pay more for my favorite worker. Article is around $4~$5 / 500 words.

    The greatest part is - I manage to get few writers write SEO+AIDA ready article for me! Although the work is not 100% to my satisfaction, but with that kind of investment, I don't complaint...

    Overall, I love oDesk!

    Kok Choon
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam7
      Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

      My usual rate for 1,000 backlinks is about 100, but I pay more for my favorite
      worker. Article is around $4~$5 / 500 words.
      Thanks much kkchoon! This seems like an incredibly good deal - thanks for all the detail, you sound like you've really got a lot of experience using contract work.

      This makes me realize how many people here are working at a much greater scale than I am; hopefully that will come to me with time. It's really inspiring to talk with everyone here and see what they're doing and how they're doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    I hired my first VA from onlinejobs.ph

    You can get better deals here for sure, lots of the guru's use this and the workers are loyal.

    p/s: Filipinos are very pro-America too if that amounts to anything. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author RACNicole
    Hi, this is Nicole from Rent a Coder. Rentacoder provides access to programming, writing, illustration, even SEM/SEO jobs.

    I'd like to point out a few differences between our service and services like oDesk since those differences could influence the success of an outsourced project.

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    1) Employing a new worker that you don't yet know or trust:
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    When you don't yet know if a worker is productive, both oDesk and Rent a Coder let you employ them in the safest way possible: by paying them a fixed price for the final deliverables (called pay-for-deliverables). However, oDesk doesn't offer a number of guarantees that are important when dealing with a new worker.

    1a): Triple point money-back guarantee (on completion, quality and deadline):
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    On Rent a Coder, the contracted work will be fully completed by the deadline, and will be up to industry-expected standards, or you get your money back. oDesk does not give refunds for lack of completion, missed deadlines or poor quality work. As a result, you may pay full price for sub-standard work (or no real work at all).

    1b) Money-back communication guarantee:
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    Communication is vital to your project's success and the larger the project the more communication is necessary to ensure on-time completion. On Rent a Coder, if the project is more than $150.00~the worker agrees to file a weekly status report. If they don't, you get your money back. oDesk does not give refunds for missed status reports. As a result, you may find that communication is poorer, which can affect the quality of the final work.

    1c): Expert Guarantee:
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    The Rent a Coder triple-point guarantee protects your money from a vWorker that doesn't deliver. But if you had a critical deadline, you may have lost vital time. The Expert Guarantee helps you avoid this by identifying the most committed and expert vWorkers during bidding. The workers agree to place a deposit to guarantee that they will not break any of the triple-point (or quadruple-point) guarantees. If they do, they forfeit the deposit (which goes to cover cancellation fees and then gets donated to a worthy charity). oDesk does not have a feature like this. As a result it may be more difficult to identify such workers during bidding.

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    2) Employing a familiar worker that you've worked with before:
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    Once you know a worker is productive, both oDesk and Rent A Coder let you employ them more flexibly and cheaply by paying them by the hour (called pay-for-time). However there are important differences in how oDesk and Rent A Coder provide this service.

    2a) Fees
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    When employing a worker you know, Rent A Coder charges 10%-35% less than oDesk (9% for one-on-one auctions to as low as 6.5%). The less you pay, the more you savings you can pocket yourself, pass on to the worker as a reward, or split. oDesk charges a higher fee of 10%. As a result, you have less money to pocket, pass on to the worker as a reward, or split.

    2b) Interrupting Mental Tasks
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    If your worker is doing a mental task that should not be interrupted (such as reading, planning, or writing at a desk), oDesk still requires them to remember to move their mouse every minute or so, or they won't guarantee payment to them. This requirement may distract and impair performance and you still must full price for time that is billed like this. Rent A Coder does not interrupt this kind of work in the first place, so you do not have this issue.

    There are other differences as well. I invite everyone to compare the 7 major services through our site to learn even more

    If you have any questions, please let me know. You can also call in to talk to a facilitator 7 days a week, or email us.

    -Nicole
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Lagarde
      Nicole - thank you for the breakdown on the differences between Odesk and RentACoder. I learned a few things with your post, and will be utilizing RAC again in the future. If you guys could overhaul the RAC interface, it would make it more user friendly.
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      • Profile picture of the author RACNicole
        Originally Posted by Chris Lagarde View Post

        Nicole - thank you for the breakdown on the differences between Odesk and RentACoder. I learned a few things with your post, and will be utilizing RAC again in the future. If you guys could overhaul the RAC interface, it would make it more user friendly.
        Hi Chris. Just checking in to see if you've heard of the changes we're making (in particular, the interface). If not, check our blog @ vWorker for a few screenshots.

        -Nicole
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        • Profile picture of the author batchos
          I recently tried RAC again. Everthing was a go, except the provider pulled out after accepting the job. Yet another freelance site has money on credit for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author batchos
      "Hi, this is Nicole from Rent a Coder. Rentacoder provides access to programming, writing, illustration, even SEM/SEO jobs."

      I tried Rentacoder once and never did go back. They are too intimidating, they like to make you feel guilty for canceling a job, even if it is not your decision.

      Odesk is another matter. So far I have had no luck with their providers. The first job was plagiarised entirely; the second person send second rate work, even after I had an extensive interview with them. The third person took more than a month to do something most people can do in less than a week. The fourth job ended in a stalemate, luckily I didn't have to pay any money. The final job, just this week caused me a few days but no results. The provider bluffed his way until I pulled the plug. He wanted a few more hours because he had to take someone to hospital. He howver, managed to squeeze in the time to convince me I should keep him. After he sent in a substandard effort (I didn't ask him), I fired him.
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  • Profile picture of the author rakesh.iseo1
    Thanks for sharing this information.
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