Stop paying for backlinks

by bravo75

Posted: 16 years ago 20 replies

If you are buying backlinks to get your sites, blogs, articles ranked, I personally don't think you have to. This is what I do:

Grab the URL's from the high ranking sites in your niche and run them through backlinkwatch. Any successful site will have hundreds or thousands of backlinks.

You will be able to click any of the backlink-giving URL's but you are looking for specific URL's. You will often find that the bulk of URL's are from forum posts just like this forum. Every time you post here on the WF the SE pick it up and you have a backlink to your site.

These are not the URL's we are looking for though. We are looking for high page rank forums where we can leave a signature and homepage URL.

In this example, I am looking for game forums or freebie forums because I am running an incentive site. This is the first one I found: Free Wii points Card?

When you click on the link, you will notice that it has no page rank whatsoever. But when you eliminate everything after the .com you will see the true ranking of the website http://www.thewiiforums.com

In this case, I have just found a forum with a page rank 3 where I can drop my homepage URL and perhaps an article URL in my sig. You do not have to post tons of posts and get yourself banned in order for Google to find you. Their spiders crawl the inner pages and will pick up your link that way.

Here is another one Prize Rebel! Worth a look guys! Free games! - Xbox World Australia User Forum When you click on it, you will see that it has no page rank. When you get rid of everything after the .com you have found a page rank 4 site where you can drop your link. I am sure that a lot of back link packages find a lot of high ranking sites this way. I am no SEO expert, but have seen an significant improvement in my ranking.

ps. I have found some pr 8 and 9's this way and am getting link juice without spamming the their forums and I am in no way affiliated with the site I mentioned. I just used these as an example

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bsmith2

16 years ago

good tip, I personally like doing my link trading manually. When you purchase backlinks you take the chance of getting labeled a spammer by the search engines.

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butters

16 years ago

This is a nice way to get backlinks, just reverse what is already been done and have used it my self but people pay for backlinks because it takes time and effort. It may only take an hour or two to drop 50 links - 100 links but that hour could be spent creating a new video or something... Something which can be bought so cheap, it seems like a reasonable investment to do

But yeah, nice tip

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bravo75

16 years ago

The thing with back link packages is that most of the sites have nothing to do with your niche. Contrary to what a lot of IMers are saying, I believe that it is important to Google that your links come from a good "link neighborhood". It's just common sense. Saying that though, you are right. I use Angela's backlinks and love it not only for the links but for the fantastic content she delivers each month. I still like to know exactly how my competition got to #1 in Google and the best way to get where they are is by back engineering their linking strategies.

Originally Posted by butters

But yeah, nice tip

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halfpoint 16 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

The thing with back link packages is that most of the sites have nothing to do with your niche.

Website topic does not matter, page relevance does. The topic of the site is completely irrelevant.

Good tip re: reverse engineering, though. I've found plenty of fantastic places to get good quality links from by doing that.

Rather than using Backlink Watch, you should look into getting a copy of Spyglass. Even their free version is more comprehensive than any other backlink checker I've seen.
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digidoodles 16 years ago

Originally Posted by bsmith2

good tip, I personally like doing my link trading manually. When you purchase backlinks you take the chance of getting labeled a spammer by the search engines.

How?

Google has no clue whether you paid for a list, found it yourself or even paid for a link.

And, if so, I could make my competitors "spammers", very easily.

Grrr... another seo myth.

Come on people. Let's use our brains here. Really. This is NOT rocket science.

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Brandi
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Fraggler

16 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

It is a great tip on reverse engineering to get yourself backlinks but you are confused on the PageRank assignment. PR refers to a webpage, not a website. The PR3 refers to the home page. Your link is still on a page with no PR or very low (as PR is dynamic). If you post some threads and replies on the forum your profile will get some of the PR flowing to it from the rest of the site but it is not a link on a PR3 page. For most forums, the only internal link is from the members list. Check the PR of the members list page to get an idea of what type of link juice is flowing to it and its members.

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Mrs S 16 years ago

Troy just beat me to it. Not all pages on a website/forum/blog have any PR - so in order to get the value of the PR8 or 9 you need to have your link on the page with the PR.

I didn't know about checking the members list though and will do that in future.

BTW I usually focus on forums for driving targeted traffic rather than building backlinks - I think it's more effective.
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GuerrillaIM 16 years ago

Surely if you can get good results and make money without having to get the links yourself this is better no?

If someone is willing to get links for a few dollars an hour then this makes good business sense in my book as I value my own time a lot higher.
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- Fraggler 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM
  
  Surely if you can get good results and make money without having to get the links yourself this is better no?
  
  I agree. It is where you think your time is best spent and the amount of funds you have at your disposal.
  
  Sometimes outsourcing isn't the best option either. A lot of it depends on your business model but when your portfolio grows your need for a manageable way to obtain backlinks also grows. It just isn't feasible to spend your time creating links to 100's if not 1000's of pages. Outsourcing this also becomes a drama as the costs will skyrocket.
  
  While your funds grow try and invest some of the money back towards more automated processes. These can be either article syndication style systems such as Link Racer or Unique Article Wizard or bookmarking systems like The Link Juicer. You can also aim to buy some software such as scrapebox or link farm evolution. They all save time and let you manage multiple projects at once.
  
  Outsource the operation of these systems and she'll be apples!
  
  Originally Posted by Mrs S
  
  BTW I usually focus on forums for driving targeted traffic rather than building backlinks - I think it's more effective.
  
  When I post on relevant forums I always make sure the post is genuine and interesting. The continual traffic is worth a lot more than the backlink! Forum users would have to be some of the most targeted traffic you can get to the site. You know they are passionate about the subject and also not afraid of using the web for purchasing or other activities.
  
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epagini 16 years ago

I never bought any link on any web site. I think they are a waste of money and it's not very ethical, in my opinion!
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sormenz 16 years ago

Good Job,, I also prefer to spread my backlink manually like this one than buying a link from PR blog.

By the way,,, may you share to us the PR8 and Pr 9 forums??
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nuclear81 16 years ago

I recently bought someones backlink package on the Wicked Fire forums and have mixed feelings about the results. I now have nearly 34,000 backlinks, but since they are all very low PR my site is still only a PR2.
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bretclive 16 years ago

Good post about the competitor link building strategy analysis. By doing so, we can get quality backlinks.
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GuerrillaIM 16 years ago

LOL, the irony. I like the one line nonsensical posts with a backlink under them in this thred.
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Fraggler 16 years ago

He might be talking about paid links, not backlink packets. Google does take measures to detect and remove the value of such links.

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/paidlinks?hl=en

Here is a reference to what Google does to people who buy links -

http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009...aid-links.html
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limochicago

16 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

If you are buying backlinks to get your sites, blogs, articles ranked, I personally don't think you have to. This is what I do:

I also discourage this technique. I think Google have ome penalty for this.

When you click on the link, you will notice that it has no page rank whatsoever. But when you eliminate everything after the .com you will see the true ranking of the website http://www.thewiiforums.com

In this case, I have just found a forum with a page rank 3 where I can drop my homepage URL and perhaps an article URL in my sig. You do not have to post tons of posts and get yourself banned in order for Google to find you. Their spiders crawl the inner pages and will pick up your link that way.

Here is another one Prize Rebel! Worth a look guys! Free games! - Xbox World Australia User Forum When you click on it, you will see that it has no page rank. When you get rid of everything after the .com you have found a page rank 4 site where you can drop your link. I am sure that a lot of back link packages find a lot of high ranking sites this way. I am no SEO expert, but have seen an significant improvement in my ranking.

Is that really the true PR of the page ? What about for those sites that already end in .com ? The overall of your post is great. It is a nice tip.

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zachary0611 16 years ago

you can find websites backlinks with seoquake plugin for firefox
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kendimann 16 years ago

sent you a PM regarding incentive sites
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blarbie 16 years ago

question 1)
that site for me has only turned out 1k links at a time, know of any way to get more?

question 2)
have you seen anything that will scrape a list like that and pull up the pr of the root domain (automated)

question 3)
are you doing your profiles by hand or using a script? if so mind sharing?

question 4)
if this works so well why do programs like xrumer seem to fail even doing low volume

question 5)
know of anything that will log back into the profiles and post, or maybe pull from an rss feed

can you pm me the answers you have provided some great advice in this forum
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- GuerrillaIM 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by blarbie
  
  question 4)
  if this works so well why do programs like xrumer seem to fail even doing low volume
  
  Xrumer doesn't fail. It just takes some brain power to use it properly. I love the way Xrumer is really unfriendly to noobs. This is what keeps it a good software to use.
  
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