Finding it hard to profit and feeling demotivated

If i can make a suggestion - go look at what other folks promoting guitar stuff landers look like. You might want to see the competitions landers.

Honestly your lander I just bounced off of - nothing to grab my attention.

Apart from the appearance issues mentioned above, which are obvious, if you're determined to use PPC to promote the site you need to optimize the page to get a lower CPC for competitive keywords. Adding more keyword focussed text, pictures with keyword focussed 'alt text' and get some anchor text backlinks with your keywords from article sites for starters. This tells Google your site is relevant to the keywords you're targeting and lowers your CPC.

I preach that over and over already - STOP using adwords if you are an affiliate since the MATH SIMPLY WONT WORK!!

Look at avg. CPC (cost per click), look at avg. payouts (majority of clickbank stuff is below $30)...and look at avg conversion rates which are 1:60 - 1:100. IT-WONT-WORK. Stop it as long as you still can.

Look at article marketing and SEO instead.

Your clicks will get cheaper after you've maintained a good CTR for some time. Honestly, you wouldn't be the first to have to sign up for another Google account because on the first tries with PPC the CTR is naturally bad... you can't know your good keywords in advance, and you can't write a good ad in the beginning. You need to try things out and test, and after you've got a good CTR get another account to start fresh with all the things you've learned.
Well, that's at least how I did it. Started with a CTR around 2-3% and boosted it up to > 10%. Then got another account.

Hope this helps.

Generally, I suspect that on every somewhat bigger niche (like yours) it is tough to make money by PPC alone (otherwise there would be competitors already doing it). You might be able to make money using PPC if you have a product line, so you can afford losing money on the first sale, because you'll recover later by selling higher priced products to your previous buyers.
But this does not help you when starting out- you do not have a product line, you do not even have your own product- you try to survive by selling on commission. That's tough man.

How about:
Put regularly new material on your site
Build regularly back links, submit to social networking sites, and so on
Get free traffic by organic searches
Build a list and keep contact with them
- I'd deliver a free guitar learning course by email covering the basics. And, if they after 6 months of practicing want to learn more advanced stuff, sell them this course for cheap. Start making money after they've had your stuff for a year or so by selling even more advanced courses.
Get a daytime job until then.

Sorry, this is not "get rich quick" and probably has never been.

This will take a while, but it works.

I am surprised the big G has not slapped you silly for that page ? none of those links at the bottom of that page work.

And yes i hate to say it, i dont think the site will appeal to that audience.

Do me me a favor, you seem to be just starting out. Learn wordpress, install on your server. Get some music related template, throw the same text on there and pictures - you will have a TOTAL different site.

Edit: I see you do this already AND you use artisteer...you can make very nice looking templates with artisteer. The one you use right now is very bland, to say it mildly.

Thanks for the input guys, I think I'm just going to drop the whole thing.

I might try outsourcing, but I'm really starting to doubt whether I will be successful at all at this internet marketing stuff. I've never managed to get ranked for any keywords, and any articles I write never seem to help anything. I've tried all that stuff mentioned above before, it just ended up being a waste of time. It might work for some people, but for me nothing seems to work.

Okay this might sound stupid, but I've had a nap and in a much more optimistic mood!

I just want to let people know that I didn't just 'slap' the campaigns together and leave it. I did a good few hours keyword and competition research, and narrowed a list of about 200 keywords down to about 20. I then created a different text ad for each of the keywords. Then I looked at the results, around 100 clicks, about 40 click throughs, 3 order form impressions and 1 submit, with no sales. That's when I realised that I wasn't going to profit.

I've had a new idea, but I have no idea whether it will work or not, so feel free to shoot it down in flames. I was thinking of paying someone to write out some articles which I could use for an auto-responder. I would also pay someone else to create me a decent squeeze page. I would then use adwords to build my list. This way even if I have to pay £50 for 100 subscribers, at least I have the opportunity to sell to each of them again and again, rather than paying £50 for 100 visitors and never seeing them again.

What do you think? Could it work?

Sounds not too bad but i know nothing about adwords so are you sure you can get 100 subs for £50 ? If so then go for it, heres a email address of a lady who could help you build a landing page or what ever you need shes rom the UK and works well on skype with you `everything.donny@gmail.com`

I suggest you get out of the adwords biz since you don't have the disposable cash laying around to gamble with.

Invest some time into learning SEO. Learn how to rank your sites in the search engines and gain organic traffic.

Learn how to design and write your own webpages. Developing a wordpress themes is really easy once you get the hang of it.

All it will cost you is time and effort.

Build some sites, throw up adsense ads and/or use affiliate sales. Leave adwords to those who can afford to gamble.

Don't expect to be rich tomorrow or next week or next month. Give it time, learn what you are doing and ignore most of the crap in peoples signatures.

Oh by the way that lady will charge you about £15 ph if you say your from WF she gets my something nice for about £45 ..3 hours of her work

Learn SEO by starting your own site and try to rank it in the serps and ask question here in the WF as you go along.. well thats how i learnt it anyway

Break it down into 2 parts...

onsite seo and offsite seo

onsite seo is everything on your page from code to the content while offsite seo is essentially backlinks to your site.

For onsite seo you want to focus on your page title

<title>make sure your keywords are here</title>

your header tags

<h1>use keywords here</h1>

and getting your keywords into your content. You don't need to keyword stuff and you don't need an obscene amount of text. Keep it natural.

Get your keywords into those three spots and google has a pretty good clue as to what your page is about.

For offsite seo, it's all about getting backlinks to your site with anchor text for the keywords you are trying to rank for.

If I wanted to rank my site for the keyword google then that would be the ideal backlink. The higher quality of page the backlink is coming from, the more weight it is going to have.

The importance of the links anchor text is it tells google why people are linking to you and what your page is about... ie, what keywords google should rank you for. Your anchor text should match onsite seo keywords, they are a team working together towards the same goals.

I know this is very quick and sounds very simple but it really does cover the basics. Having solid onsite seo and quality backlinks is all it takes to rank a site for any keyword.

Yes, you can go seo ninja and there are additional tricks but what I've laid out for you covers most of what you need to know about seo.

I stopped promoting the product I originally started with, but I will start promoting it again if I'm going to have to spend time on it, since it is something I'm interested in.

The product has a low gravity score on Clickbank, but the product is really good. I really don't know whether I should try promoting it or not.

My plan is to start a wordpress blog about the topic, then have a pre-sell page with my own testimonial on. Then every 3-5 posts on the blog, I will try and promote the product and point people to my pre-sell page.

Or instead of a pre-sell, I could build a list, which would be a better option?

Yeah I'm into guitars, I can play the guitar, but I really couldn't be bothered to write articles and blog posts about it.

Everyone is pretty much right your landing page is terrible. If you get a hold of me I can help you with your campaign. I only use SEO methods. Check us out at Writers Wanted.

I'd have to agree with the landing page appearance. I personally think most visitors will just opt to leave the page. Add some graphics and attention grabbing titles and content.

I'd take a look at the top guitar sites out there, and see how they appear when you first click in. How do they sell themselves? What sort of layout, graphics, language are they using? Whatever they are using, works. Keep that in mind when you design your own site. And spare no expense {Even if by expense, I just mean many hours of time, rather than money.}

....Your site's link seems to be partly broken.

Hey Sam keep the faith geez you'll get there. I know nish about guitars but have made the odd sale in that niche
I would say that you really do need to get off the PPC until you are profitable in that niche. as far as SEO try this as a great free ebook to learn from.

If you want to get that site to rank you have to do a bit of article or blog writing .. that being said you don't have to write them yourself! If you are willing to pay I can recommend that great articles can be got for not too much at all. Your better off paying for articles than PPC.

Drop a line to me on my blog and I'll hook you up with what you need if you wish. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck guaranteed.

And never give up dude