Anyone Using SEOlinkvine?

16 years ago

I really like it but I don't know if it is worth the $47 a month. Everyone seems to think the best spinner is really good too and a better deal.

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vegaschk 16 years ago

Do you see it making a difference in your link popularity?
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humbledmarket

Banned 16 years ago

Originally Posted by vegaschk

Hey guys,

I tried to get SEO link vine and it looks like its closed for article submissions to get links. Anyone here using them? Can you tell me how their system is so I know if to buy it when they re-open.

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Hello,
Essentially they have a network of websites where you can spin your article to be submitted to those site on your networks.

I've heard many great things about it and they have closed it to protect their current users from over saturation if I'm not wrong. So they are still increasing their network space but they don't accept any new registrations.

There are also many similar services you just need to take a look around to find one you like.

If you have blogs they pay you $1 per blog you submit to their network so you get free content as well as $1 upfront not much but it saves you time. However each article will have links on it.

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Mark Blaze

16 years ago

Yep unfortunatly it's been closed for about a week now while Brad sort's out the traffic and article posting side and brings up the number of blog's to keep the service running smoothly!

All in all i think once it's back up to speed and running correctly it will really out do all the other services!

Mark Blaze

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Trivum

16 years ago

I'm on it. The links that I've found to my articles all seem to be on crappy auto-created blogs with 0 PR.

The final verdict is still out though. I've still got some time left on it, but at the moment I think I probably won't renew.

I might try Linkvana. Even though it's a lot more expensive, it seems you're guaranteed links on sites with a little bit of juice.

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Mark Blaze

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Trivum

I'm on it. The links that I've found to my articles all seem to be on crappy auto-created blogs with 0 PR.

The final verdict is still out though. I've still got some time left on it, but at the moment I think I probably won't renew.

I might try Linkvana. Even though it's a lot more expensive, it seems you're guaranteed links on sites with a little bit of juice.

Linkvana is good in their quality but it is more like guest posting as you have to write 1 article per backlink!

Your better off in that case just blog commenting as it will give you the same result's and is alot quicker.

Other alternative is Unique Article Wizard which is the same sort of thing as seolinkvine except older network and is working just right.

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Marie A 16 years ago

Hi Mark,

So what blog commenting software are you using please?
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- niffybranco 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Marie A
  
  Hi Mark,
  
  So what blog commenting software are you using please?
  
  I use blog comment demon.
  
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Social Experts

16 years ago

I heard from a very trusted source that Google has found the footprint on all of Linkvana's blogs so the juice has apparently stopped flowing.

Don't quote me on that, just rumors.

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vegaschk

16 years ago

wow thanks so much for the feedback guys!

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VegasGreg

16 years ago

Originally Posted by vegaschk

Hey guys,

I tried to get SEO link vine and it looks like its closed for article submissions to get links. Anyone here using them? Can you tell me how their system is so I know if to buy it when they re-open.

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I have been using them for a few weeks now. I haven't yet submitted a LOT of articles, but the few samples I added are gaining quite a few links for me.

There are other options out there, like AMA and UAW, and they all are close to the same format. I am going to stick with SEOLV for now and will uploading a lot more articles over the coming weeks.

Originally Posted by advfin1

I really like it but I don't know if it is worth the $47 a month. Everyone seems to think the best spinner is really good too and a better deal.

The Best Spinner is simply a spinner, SEO Linkvine is a submission service. So that comparison doesn't even make sense.

I do however use the Best Spinner to spin my articles that I submit to SEOLV as it is better than the built in spinner offered inside the SEOLV admin area.

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areaK

16 years ago

It sounds similar to Free Traffic System??? If so, why not go with FTS which is totally free (has a pro version but I use the free version).

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Mao Flynn

16 years ago

I prefer http://www.linxboss.com/

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Marie A

16 years ago

I am not sure what is going on with Linkvine at the moment as there seems to be a delay with submissions again.

I hope this will sort itself out soon and maybe Brad would like to update us all when he has the time.

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GeorgR.

16 years ago

I use it for some time now, first with very good results...but right now things are getting...weird. I have articles sitting there not getting distributed for 8 days straight, and receiving articles also has stopped on my own sites for unknown reasons.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

I use it for some time now, first with very good results...but right now things are getting...weird. I have articles sitting there not getting distributed for 8 days straight, and receiving articles also has stopped on my own sites for unknown reasons.

GeorgR - I remember when this first started you where pumping this as an affiliate offer. Have you changed your affiliate site now? I can't remember if it was SEO LV review.com or SEOLV . org, you have removed the link from your sig. But looking at both sites now the review is still the same. Which is your site again?

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livinglife247 16 years ago

its working now
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Marie A

16 years ago

I agree with you George R.

I have delayed going live with 10 new articles as a result of this delay.

Let's hope to see some movement in the next few days or at least hear back from the development team.

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madzseo 16 years ago

Hi George and Marie A, same thing here...seems like there's a bit of a backlog. I'm not too happy about the blogs that my articles are submitted too either

Oh and how come all the threads about lv are closed :confused:

Vegaschk - the price used to be 47, after a few weeks they raised it to $67. I'm guessing when they reopen it will be $97.

IMO seolv is good if you have lots of sites. If you only have one or two it may not seem worth what you pay for. I only have two sites and I'm thinking for $67 a month may be a bit too expensive. So far I've only had 2 articles that I've actually seen published. The others on the stat is not showing until now. Although I think I'm getting some positive results with the rankings (but it's really hard to tell cos I'm using other stuff too).

There's another one - textlinks.com that's similar to linkvine. You may want to try out their 21 day free trial. I've only known about it for a few days so I can't really say if it's good or crap. Join at your own risk
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- JimmyRose 16 years ago
  
  I am using articleranks and while I'm not 100% of the effects yet I think it is doing well. With article ranks, you can get credits to your name by allowing them to post to higher PR blogs, so it promotes higher PR blogs to sign up for content.
  
  For example, a friend of mine has a PR5 blog setup to accept articles and I have a PR2.
  
  With the first article I submitted linking to two of my sites, I at first noticed a big drop in rankings, but they slowly climbed back to be higher then they were before. (We had a theory for a bit there that google penalised for links at first and as the links matured they were worth more - just theories). One blog shifted form around position 35 to 10, with no other link building efforts.
  
  I have a few more articles on there now, and for one I posted just yesterday, my blog has spotted about 4 or 5 pingbacks already. Some are related, some are completely off topic.
  
  It seems to be doing alright anyways.
  
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entrepreneurjay

16 years ago

I do it works real well and I am also an affiliate for this program. No returns on seolinkvine that also confirms how good of a product it really is.

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terryd

16 years ago

You could probably start a thread in the Marketing Review Section and then you will get a lot of feedback about it by people who are current members.

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lselvon

16 years ago

I've tried ArticleMarketingAutomation by the PLRPro guys with great success getting search engine traffic. Their membership is in the $47. Using their spinner to prevent duplication can be time consuming, depending on how much time you spend using the spinners. I have not personally tried Jonathan's latest spinner software but it looks quite good also.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by lselvon

I've tried ArticleMarketingAutomation by the PLRPro guys with great success getting search engine traffic. Their membership is in the $47. Using their spinner to prevent duplication can be time consuming, depending on how much time you spend using the spinners. I have not personally tried Jonathan's latest spinner software but it looks quite good also.

Glad you had some luck with AMA, I didn't see many of my backlinks indexed in my testing over a few mos. I've had better luck with UAW and ArticleRanks.

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Alex2

16 years ago

SEOLinkVine is Open to 50 more members!

Got an email today, you can subscribe now for $67/montly but be quick.
I cannot afford to pay

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humbledmarket Banned 16 years ago

Yup I also got an email supposedly they opened 50 more spots to their system. I'd join but I don't have much use at the moment since I'm not focusing much on site building at this point. You might want to give it a shot though.

They actually started at $47 but I guess as time passed their price increased due to their popularity and sacristy.
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Daedric

16 years ago

AMA is basically the same as SLV but the problem I had with AMA is that it takes time for article to be approved (around only 50 approved in a month with my test article - which is not bad) and then after a month of 2, the approved number just stop increasing. I think the reason is because after the initial release of your article, your article get swarmed by other newer articles and the chances of it being reviewed by the blog owner gets lower as the day goes by. As your article get pushed lower and lower in the waiting list, most likely the blog owner will not get the chance to review your article. Since SLV use almost the same system, do any of you guys face the same thing?

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Keithyt 16 years ago

Hmmm I am a member and I am sure this is a glitch but I have just tried to log and was greeted with

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /usr/www/users/linkmetr/seolinkvine.com/admin/config.php on line 17
Critical database error: Connection was refused by server

Please try again later

So it's a "gallic shrug" from me so far I am afraid. I have had some good links to my main generic keyword but not much else. I decided to spin half and write half to see which worked most effectively. The hand written ones filtered through to approval within about three days while the spun ones (using TBS) tended to be rejected. I am not here to whinge but I am just giving an honest assessment after three weeks use and accept that the issue might be me.

If it's me, I will need to revise my writing style perhaps. Although as copywriter of 20 years standing, I doubt that this is one area I'd have too many problems with.

I hope you are right with your appraisal Mark and await news.
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16 years ago

i gave up after 2 weeks......nothing happened.

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16 years ago

this looks good......so you have good results from them?

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da1fitz

16 years ago

Originally Posted by vegaschk

Hey guys,

I tried to get SEO link vine and it looks like its closed for article submissions to get links. Anyone here using them? Can you tell me how their system is so I know if to buy it when they re-open.

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I tried SEOLinkVine and Niche Article Marketing for High Search Ranking - Premier Service and they both seem to offer a similar service, plus I believe you can still subscribe to AMA...

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16 years ago

I use linxboss as well and can vouch for them too.

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signsite

16 years ago

Have been using SEOLV for a few weeks now, its a pretty good service. Then today I try to log in and im get the following message "This account has been terminated by the Administrator." what the heck is up with that, a little bit of forewarning would have been nice.

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VegasGreg

16 years ago

Originally Posted by signsite

Have been using SEOLV for a few weeks now, its a pretty good service. Then today I try to log in and im get the following message "This account has been terminated by the Administrator." what the heck is up with that, a little bit of forewarning would have been nice.

Holy poop, I just logged in too and found the same message? WTF???

Hopefully it is just a small glitch in the system. We shall see.

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lukemeister

16 years ago

I'm using SEO Link Vine, for about a month now

I agree, it seems to be worth the money more if you have multiple sites. I'm promoting about 6 sites with it so that's probably worth it my opinion.

I kind experienced the same thing mentioned by JimmyRose, one of my sites dropped off Google for a bunch of target keywords and then slowly came back after about a week

I haven't noticed any huge gains, but this is SEO we're talking about, and I'm only my second month of using SEO Link Vine, I'll probably need to give it some more time to see how it works out.

Today though I tried to log in and it also says my account is disabled by administrator. I also tried to go to Clickbank support and it says there's no record of my order. So I went to Brad Callen's support site to submit a ticket, I'm curious to find out what is going on.

I will say, from the "get content" side, I have to reject about 90% of the articles pushed to me for review because they read like they're written by a 5th grader, so I think if you take the time to create quality content that actually makes sense and offers something of value, you'll get picked up by a lot of the blogs because the quality will stand out quite a bit compared to the crap.

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dotslash 16 years ago

Today though I tried to log in and it also says my account is disabled by administrator.

Yep me too, just went to submit an article and I got the same. Hope they sort it soon - last time I logged on last few of my articles were stuck on zero anyway.
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livinglife247 16 years ago

Oh Wow, Its nice to see this!

I went to login today to seo link vine and saw this awful message

"YOUR ACCOUNT HAS BEEN TERMINATED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR!'

WTF!

When i saw that i,**** a break! No kidding

I called click bank and they said i still have a account and not terminated. They said they would call me when they talked to the vendor.

Its nice to see that i am not the only one dealing with this.
It better be a Flipen glitch.

besides that seo link vine is awesome, no doubt.

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6 articles submitted
over 600 words

one of thoughs articles has been approved 54 times!

100% spinner words, Yes i spend 4 hrs spinning each article.

Submitted for approval (215)
Approved (156)
Rejected (20)
Pending (39)
Published (128)

so far i see 48 backlinks
just stated using this 2 weeks again

You have to think when your submitting content that
these are not article directories, these are peoples websites

big big difference

great tool!

oh and buzzle sucks, never approve articles and dont tell you why!

Seo link vine is great expect for this login error
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Lewis Leake

16 years ago

Originally Posted by lukemeister

I will say, from the "get content" side, I have to reject about 90% of the articles pushed to me for review because they read like they're written by a 5th grader, so I think if you take the time to create quality content that actually makes sense and offers something of value, you'll get picked up by a lot of the blogs because the quality will stand out quite a bit compared to the crap.

Yea, I am rejecting at least 90% of the articles that are submitted for my blogs also. I am glad that they offer the option of manually approving blog posts.

Lewis

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Marie A

16 years ago

It is up and running now but everything is 'stuck' and I see no new submissions.

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Fitnessdad 16 years ago

I'm getting new submissions everyday. Now a couple of topics are slower than others finance vs dresses. How many categories did you pick? I am getting great results
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Lewis Leake

16 years ago

Originally Posted by vegaschk

Hey guys,

I tried to get SEO link vine and it looks like its closed for article submissions to get links. Anyone here using them? Can you tell me how their system is so I know if to buy it when they re-open.

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I have used SEOLinkVine for just over a month and I am happy with the service.

I have submitted articles that have been posted to other blogs - these were all "spun" articles.

I am getting articles that I can post to my blogs. I am not really satisfied with most of the articles so a lot of them are rejected. The articles that I do accept are well written.

I like the fact that I can direct - to some degree - where my articles will be posted and I can also identify which articles I accept for posting on my blogs.

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lukemeister

16 years ago

Hey quick update - I'm able to long into SEO Link Vine again - support said they ran into a glitch and it's fixed now

woohoo!

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Sleaklight

16 years ago

I too had the account termination notice as well. I was furious cuz I didn't get a notice why but took the benefit of the doubt, contacted supported, asked why I was banned and voila, glitch uncovered, fixed and I am back in! yay!

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Tim Franklin

16 years ago

Since this is now in the review, section, here is my experience with the concept, of SEO linking using a third party platform,

I found that the service, is not for the casual user, but perhaps for a more advanced user, I can say that it does appear to be closed to new members,

I do not know if this is some kind of scarcity marketing concept, but what ever it is I do not think much of the concept of using scarcity to build a business.

These days, if you have the money you can build any service capable of supporting as many members as you could ever want so there is no need of ever closing because you only have 100 members,

I just dislike the concept and approach it was a real turn off, just my thoughts, and hopefully this is still the review section,.

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Brad Callen

16 years ago

sorry guys. my developers were working on another system update and for some reason (I have no idea) it caused that message to appear when anyone tried logging in. As soon as I noticed it, which was pretty fast... because we got 100 billion tickets.
We fixed it. All should be good now. Sorry for the inconvenience. I gave my guys a nice punch to the chin for all of you :-)

Brad
P.S. Tim, I wish that was the case. We close it because we would have TOO many paying members and not enough blogs to post content to. I make 100% sure that we have more than enough blogs so that the paid users will get plenty of links. Trust me, it's not a scarcity play at all. I would LOVE to have a bazillion paying customers... but taking care of current customers is more important to me than making more and more money in the short run. If we continued getting more and more paid customers at the rate we were when we opened the site, the results for paid users would not be where I want them. That is why we close the site. So I can focus on building out the blog network bigger and better for "current" customers, keeping everybody happy. When we re-open the site, it's because we've added plenty more blogs to keep up with the added users. I won't re-open until very specific blog numbers are reached.

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lukemeister 16 years ago

Thanks for the update Brad!
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad Callen

So I can focus on building out the blog network bigger and better for "current" customers, keeping everybody happy. When we re-open the site, it's because we've added plenty more blogs to keep up with the added users. I won't re-open until very specific blog numbers are reached.

Brad,
When you talk about building out the network are you talking about adding quality blogs to it, owned by other people? I hope that is the case and not just a bunch of spammy looking blogs that won't provide any link juice. I have been using it for around a month or so and have received over 100 links for my articles. However, not many are being picked up by the search engines yet but I'm cautiously optimistic. I just hope the articles are going on quality sites that provide some link juice.

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Tim Franklin

16 years ago

Thanks for the explanation, part of my slight irritation was that I was one of the very first to get to the door, in fact I signed up as one of the first 100, but some glitch caused a problem and when I went back to check out the content side, I was greeted with the sorry notice, it stuck in my craw, I can see now that it was not intentional,

It was just a coincidence, that being one of the first few people to get to the site, I ended up in the cold, but such is life, anyway thanks for explaining.

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Marie A

16 years ago

Hi Brad,

Nice to see you jumping in here.

Can you advise 'ball park' what time scale you are looking at for the updates you plan and also when Linkvine will be 'up and running' properly again.

I appreciate your time.

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Brad Callen

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Marie A

Hi Brad,

Nice to see you jumping in here.

Can you advise 'ball park' what time scale you are looking at for the updates you plan and also when Linkvine will be 'up and running' properly again.

I appreciate your time.

Hey Marie, I'm not sure what you're referring to. What updates are you referring to?
SEOLV is up and running fine. I'm a bit confused what you mean?

Brad

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Marie A 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Brad Callen

Hey Marie, I'm not sure what you're referring to. What updates are you referring to?
SEOLV is up and running fine. I'm a bit confused what you mean?

Brad

Hi Brad,

I must be mistken then as I was under the impression that there was still a huge backlog of traffic waiting to be submitted and an update to the software was being prepared.

Under my 'Submitted for approval' the number has not changed in over 3 days and even before that the total was nowhere near 10 blogs per day as per my requested settings and some articles have never been submitted at all.

These are all in the same niche as the ones that have so far been published BTW 87% average which is not too bad.

Best regards,

Marie A
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- Brad Callen 16 years ago
  
  Hi Marie, have you submitted a support ticket? You probably have, but just making sure, so we can help you.
  
  Without looking at your account, it's tough to give you a good answer. But, based on experience, what 99% of others that mention this, they're not doing 1 of the following 2 things, which puts extreme limits on the number of publishes they get:
  
  1. Their rewrite % is below 30%. When it's below 30%, you're losing out on tons of blogs that set > 30% rewrite % to be a criteria when posting content to their sites.
  
  2. Their categories and subcategories they select are way too narrow. Most people think they aren't narrow, but almost always are, whether they think so or not. Go as broad as you possibly can (within reason obviously).
  
  Doing both of those 2 things will have a major impact on publish rate.
  
  But, yeah, please submit a support ticket with stuff like this so someone can help you much quicker. Same goes for anyone else that might have similar questions. Here's the link to the support desk: Support Desk
  
  I pop in at least once a day and am 10 steps away from the guys/gals in the desk helping people all day.
  
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stellamary

16 years ago

Good Stuff....I like to follow too.keep sharing.

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jacksonlin

16 years ago

I don't understand how people can be bitching and complaining about "the quality of articles" they are getting for FREE!

I mean seriously come on guys, if the quality is bad, just delete it!

You're already getting articles for FREE!

I personally hire an article writer to write 3 versions of my article before I submit it, so I don't have an issue with bad English there.

But stop the complaining about the FREE stuff you're getting!

Think about this, if you had builders coming to build your house for free, and you could fire them if you didn't like it without any recourse, would you be complaining? Be more gracious I say!

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VegasGreg

16 years ago

Originally Posted by jacksonlin

I don't understand how people can be bitching and complaining about "the quality of articles" they are getting for FREE!

I mean seriously come on guys, if the quality is bad, just delete it!

You're already getting articles for FREE!

I personally hire an article writer to write 3 versions of my article before I submit it, so I don't have an issue with bad English there.

But stop the complaining about the FREE stuff you're getting!

Think about this, if you had builders coming to build your house for free, and you could fire them if you didn't like it without any recourse, would you be complaining? Be more gracious I say!

Well, technically they aren't 100% free as we have to abide by the conditions and allow 3 outbound links within the article. That is of GREAT value to the article writer/submitter.

If we were just receiving articles with no links, THAT would be a different story.

All in all, it's a win-win trade off except when the quality of the articles is really bad as that requires time (time=money) to sift through and delete/reject.

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DannyUK

16 years ago

Originally Posted by jacksonlin

I don't understand how people can be bitching and complaining about "the quality of articles" they are getting for FREE!

I mean seriously come on guys, if the quality is bad, just delete it!

You're already getting articles for FREE!

I personally hire an article writer to write 3 versions of my article before I submit it, so I don't have an issue with bad English there.

But stop the complaining about the FREE stuff you're getting!

Think about this, if you had builders coming to build your house for free, and you could fire them if you didn't like it without any recourse, would you be complaining? Be more gracious I say!

Yes, the articles are free but they are also valuable for the person submitting them as they carry up to 3 of their back-links. And blog owners are being asked to host these articles on real blogs (in some cases anyway). It's true you can disable the auto-accept feature or even review your blogs and delete what you don't like, I don't deny that obvious fact. However, if I have to review every article that's submitted then what's the point of the auto-submit feature? And why don't I just go to EZine articles and find articles that have already been reviewed and copy/ paste those to build a content base?

Part of the power of SEOLV is meant to be hands-free content but that's just not realistic right now because there are so many submitters who can't even be bothered to give their articles a quick proof read. They don't care what junk they put out there as long as their link gets published.

But just think how powerful this system could be if all participants operated with a little give and take and consideration for others. Sure, I get free content but my part of the deal is hosting the back-links. Is it too much to ask for an even partially intelligible article in return? When I send my articles out every permutation is designed to be grammatically correct and I spin to 98% as a minimum. This is my way of saying thanks and showing a little respect to the people who agree to host my content. Give and take.

I know it's unrealistic to expect an entire community to consist of decent people, there will always be undesirables which is the nature of things. There seems to be an unhealthy number of the latter in the SEOLV program right now, that's all I'm saying. Hopefully Brad will find a way to weed them out if his intention is to see the quality of the network improve. If he does then we have a real long-term win-win for all involved.

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GeorgR.

16 years ago

i *know* this is not a support-thread...but..

I have several sites on there for receiving articles, and i did NOT change the XMRLPC posting settings. It posted for a while all right - but all of a sudden it seems not be able to connect to some sites anymore. (Yes, i filled out a ticket already)

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Marie A

16 years ago

Thanks for response Brad.

Someone from the office has put in a ticket so will wait and see.

We only spin not less than 70%

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John Williamson 16 years ago

Started browsing through this thread and was amazed to see the actual Brad Callen posting lol. I keep forgetting he's a real guy; it's like he's a celebrity to me. Anyway, except for the occasional login issues, SEOLV is great. I get alot of new backlinks every single day, probably because I have rewrite percentages around 50% and I slightly overextend my categories for potentially more acceptance of my articles. My rankings have gradually but drastically increased since I started. With 17 articles in the system, here are my stats...Ironically, after I typed that, I went to log in to copy and paste the stats and got an error. I'll post them on here tomorrow if it's working then.

Also thinking about joining AMA soon. Do they allow spinning?
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Marie A

16 years ago

Well all I have been getting is this message:

"Your account does not have a valid subscription. Cannot publish the article."

Obviously not correct as I have been published over 1000 times so far.

I am waiting to hear from support.

This is probably why none of the articles have moved at all in last few days. NOT happy.

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Sylonious

16 years ago

Originally Posted by vegaschk

Hey guys,

I tried to get SEO link vine and it looks like its closed for article submissions to get links. Anyone here using them? Can you tell me how their system is so I know if to buy it when they re-open.

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The key features of Seolinkvine are that you can add links within the body, you get a decent number of low pr (or NO PR) user blogs to put articles on and you'll occasionally get a blog link from a site in your niche. Article spinning is pretty standard.

I've got one article submitted on 4-27 that's got more than 90 incoming links. I've got another one submitted on that same day (in another niche) with less than 60.

It seems like I'm getting much better results than I did with Article Automation, but there is no real way to tell if those numbers are really true.

If you check your backlinks with Yahoo it only looks like you receive 2 or 3 links from each spun article submitted.

IMO, the only way any of these blog networks work is if it helps you to vary your linking profile. So if all you have is links from blog networks (no matter how many different blog networks you sign up with) then it won't work.

Originally Posted by lukemeister

I will say, from the "get content" side, I have to reject about 90% of the articles pushed to me for review because they read like they're written by a 5th grader, so I think if you take the time to create quality content that actually makes sense and offers something of value, you'll get picked up by a lot of the blogs because the quality will stand out quite a bit compared to the crap.

If you have a quality site why risk getting your site footprinted as being apart of a blog network?

I have sites in similar networks, but only because I want content published automatically.

Getting articles from Seolinkvine is better than content scraping, but you still have a small chance of getting your site footprinted.

If you have a popular site then the risk is much higher.

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Mike Grant

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Sylonious

The key features of Seolinkvine are that you can add links within the body, you get a decent number of low pr (or NO PR) user blogs to put articles on and you'll occasionally get a blog link from a site in your niche. Article spinning is pretty standard.

I've got one article submitted on 4-27 that's got more than 90 incoming links. I've got another one submitted on that same day (in another niche) with less than 60.

It seems like I'm getting much better results than I did with Article Automation, but there is no real way to tell if those numbers are really true.

If you check your backlinks with Yahoo it only looks like you receive 2 or 3 links from each spun article submitted.

IMO, the only way any of these blog networks work is if it helps you to vary your linking profile. So if all you have is links from blog networks (no matter how many different blog networks you sign up with) then it won't work.

Ive noticed I'm not really getting much for backlinks as well. Supposedly, I've several hundred published on a few articles, but I maybe have 10 links from crap blogs for each article.

I was just rebilled, so this will be the month to see whether or not I extend to the 3rd month. As of right now, it doesn't look like I will.

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Mike Grant

16 years ago

Also, is the site hanging for anyone else?

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terryd

16 years ago

Mate........it hangs more than hangman does.........I login and click on stats.....hang......check rankings......hang.....try and click any other link......hang.........I thought it was just me and my computer but I guess not.....wish they would fix it because I hate having to keep trying to login to check stats etc...after it hangs I just shut down the window and try again and hope I can....I'm like a few here, I'll try it for maybe a month more but if I haven't seen anything better then I'll just leave.

Sure I've got a few links but the blogs are no PR and some of them are just plain crap blogs like this one http://zebobloger.tk... I mean do I really spin my articles to 100% so they end up on crap like this?

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Mike Grant

16 years ago

Originally Posted by terryd

Mate........it hangs more than hangman does.........I login and click on stats.....hang......check rankings......hang.....try and click any other link......hang.........I thought it was just me and my computer but I guess not.....wish they would fix it because I hate having to keep trying to login to check stats etc...after it hangs I just shut down the window and try again and hope I can....I'm like a few here, I'll try it for maybe a month more but if I haven't seen anything better then I'll just leave.

Sure I've got a few links but the blogs are no PR and some of them are just plain crap blogs like this one Blogg... I mean do I really spin my articles to 100% so they end up on crap like this?

FWIW, I spin to about 75% and have a 93% acceptance rate :\

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aaramire

16 years ago

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Also, is the site hanging for anyone else?

I've been using seolinkvine for a little over a month now. So far so good as far as the service is concerned.

My only gripe is the technical side of things. There are times when the site hangs for eons. I have the same issue as some as well when it comes to article distribution.

It seems uneven. Some of my articles get published right away, while others take up to a week before they start to get published.

So far I've received a slight boost in the SERPS so I'm going to wait it out.

The main issues right now are:

-load times (sometimes the site will not load at all)
-distribution (even when following Brad's advice)
- no support forum/support desk can seem irrate at times

here's to a solid service once the dust settles.

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ericw

16 years ago

Here's my issue, and time will tell how well the link popularity vs. high PR linkbacks holds water.

Has anyone considered the popping in and dropping out of links via articles? In other words, you post an article. It's picked up by a blog. Your article is now on the following page: somesite.com/articles/01/03/

Well next time the blog is crawled, your article no longer appears on this URL and has been pushed back to a "previous entries" page, typically buried within the blog somewhere. Now, until the engines find page which you were on, and you're gone. Next the engines finally find the new page on which you now appear, and whammo. You have a link. Then, two weeks later, your article is still on the site, but on some other page once again. It's a vicious cycle. How can you gain any link maturity like this?

Link "sticking" is an important part to ranking as it develops your link maturity. Yes, there will be a permanent article link somewhere on the blog, but until the engines pick this up, you're just going to bounce around on the blog. Doesn't this impact you and your site's ability to rank and hold rank? I would think it does.

Furthermore, someone discussed the worthless, 5th grader articles out there on SEOLV, and I must concur. I have numerous blogs running and have to reject a lot that comes my way because the articles are written like crap, and frequently by someone whose primary language clearly isn't English. It's frustrating in terms of credibility for your own blog as you attempt to wade through this garbage and accept/reject articles for your blogs.

I'm wondering how many high PR blogs there are on SEOLV. I tend to be of the following school of thought: 1 high PR link is better than 100 garbage links from sites with no PR. So will link popularity really matter? Doesn't Google go out to the web and essentially know when a site is utter trash and when it is credible? I tend to think PR impacts this and really believe that 50 links from PR0 sites - while increasing your popularity - will not improve your ability to rank. But...I could be wrong.

I have also noticed some sites on which my articles were posted have actually (and illegally) modified articles and shoved their own links into the articles and all over the place. I'm wondering if SEOLV will really penalize these people or even care to discover them. I don't bother reporting them because I'd be writing in with support tickets on an ongoing basis.

Anyway, don't want to open a can of worms here. Like I said, time will tell. In a nutshell, I am getting plenty of links back, but have yet to see any real results. I can't really complain though because if link popularity really will pull any weight, it looks like I have certainly gotten a ton of links out there. Again, the only issue is that they are from a lot of garbage blogs - such as the ones pointed out in this thread.

As for the SEOLV site hanging. Yes, it hangs constantly. It's annoying, but I just come back to it later.

Lastly, I am wondering when the list of categories will expand and how Brad determines if/when to do this. I have numerous articles that are well categorized but infrequently picked up. This makes me wonder how many blogs are truly in the network. The topics are popular, frequently discussed and newsworthy items. If there are really 16k+ blogs in the system, I would imagine such articles would be picked up constantly - yet they aren't. I think this is a can't-miss system, but I also realize results will only come with time, patience and more quality blogs in the process. I just hope we start seeing some soon!

As for Brad, the staff at SEOLV - I have been very pleased. They reply to tickets and are highly courteous and helpful. I think there is definitely a winning model in place here - but like I said - I do echo some of the group's concerns, and will remain patiently optimistic!

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Chris Koltai 16 years ago
I've been a member for 2 days now, here are my thoughts so far:

THE GOOD
- Interface is much, much better than that of competing services
- Multiple spinning options and support of nested spinning is a plus
- Rank tracking is a nice, if somewhat clumsily executed bonus
- 3 links per article means you can cover multiple pages or multiple sites in one go
THE BAD
- Site seems to hang quite a bit. Back up any work you do, you might lose it on a server timeout.
- Submissions seem to be slooooooooow - Set at 10 submissions a day, I've gotten 3 in 24 hours.
- Categorization is an issue. If you write a very specific article, you'll be very limited in relevant categories, which will likely impact the overall links you'll get out of it.
For full disclosure, the article I wrote is very niche specific (i.e. if the niche was red widgets, this article would be something like "proper winter maintenance of small red titanium widgets"), 650 words, and has a 98% rewrite percentage. It's related to online gaming, and I suspect from previous networks that I've used in the past that if it had been in the internet marketing or health niche, it might be moving a bit faster.

I'll give it a few days and see if it starts getting sent out at an acceptable rate. If not, I'll be cashing out my chips and going back to UAW. Their interface may suck, but ease of use isn't a huge factor when I'm paying for link velocity.

TLDR version: The jury's still out. I'm skeptical at this point, but I'd be happy to eat my words if I'm wrong since competing services make the submission process about as enjoyable as getting a tooth pulled without anesthesia.
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DannyUK

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ericw

Here's my issue, and time will tell how well the link popularity vs. high PR linkbacks holds water.

Has anyone considered the popping in and dropping out of links via articles? In other words, you post an article. It's picked up by a blog. Your article is now on the following page: somesite.com/articles/01/03/

Well next time the blog is crawled, your article no longer appears on this URL and has been pushed back to a "previous entries" page, typically buried within the blog somewhere. Now, until the engines find page which you were on, and you're gone. Next the engines finally find the new page on which you now appear, and whammo. You have a link. Then, two weeks later, your article is still on the site, but on some other page once again. It's a vicious cycle. How can you gain any link maturity like this?

Link "sticking" is an important part to ranking as it develops your link maturity. Yes, there will be a permanent article link somewhere on the blog, but until the engines pick this up, you're just going to bounce around on the blog. Doesn't this impact you and your site's ability to rank and hold rank? I would think it does.

Furthermore, someone discussed the worthless, 5th grader articles out there on SEOLV, and I must concur. I have numerous blogs running and have to reject a lot that comes my way because the articles are written like crap, and frequently by someone whose primary language clearly isn't English. It's frustrating in terms of credibility for your own blog as you attempt to wade through this garbage and accept/reject articles for your blogs.

I'm wondering how many high PR blogs there are on SEOLV. I tend to be of the following school of thought: 1 high PR link is better than 100 garbage links from sites with no PR. So will link popularity really matter? Doesn't Google go out to the web and essentially know when a site is utter trash and when it is credible? I tend to think PR impacts this and really believe that 50 links from PR0 sites - while increasing your popularity - will not improve your ability to rank. But...I could be wrong.

I have also noticed some sites on which my articles were posted have actually (and illegally) modified articles and shoved their own links into the articles and all over the place. I'm wondering if SEOLV will really penalize these people or even care to discover them. I don't bother reporting them because I'd be writing in with support tickets on an ongoing basis.

Anyway, don't want to open a can of worms here. Like I said, time will tell. In a nutshell, I am getting plenty of links back, but have yet to see any real results. I can't really complain though because if link popularity really will pull any weight, it looks like I have certainly gotten a ton of links out there. Again, the only issue is that they are from a lot of garbage blogs - such as the ones pointed out in this thread.

As for the SEOLV site hanging. Yes, it hangs constantly. It's annoying, but I just come back to it later.

Lastly, I am wondering when the list of categories will expand and how Brad determines if/when to do this. I have numerous articles that are well categorized but infrequently picked up. This makes me wonder how many blogs are truly in the network. The topics are popular, frequently discussed and newsworthy items. If there are really 16k+ blogs in the system, I would imagine such articles would be picked up constantly - yet they aren't. I think this is a can't-miss system, but I also realize results will only come with time, patience and more quality blogs in the process. I just hope we start seeing some soon!

As for Brad, the staff at SEOLV - I have been very pleased. They reply to tickets and are highly courteous and helpful. I think there is definitely a winning model in place here - but like I said - I do echo some of the group's concerns, and will remain patiently optimistic!

Some good points raised which I've been noticing and wondering about myself. For sure I'm seeing my backlinks jumping all over the place as they cycle onto and then off the various blog home pages and category pages. I'm not seeing many deep links getting indexed and in terms of SEO value I haven't determined any at this stage. But I'm open to giving this more time.

Totally agree on the quality of most of the articles. I've seem some very good stuff but in the main the quality is extremely poor. This isn't the fault of the tool of course, it'd down to the incredibly lazy people who won't put the effort in and couldn't care less if they are wrecking things for everyone else. Check this out as one particular example:

"How to Possess a Child Lady Knowing This can Provide you with Some Quite Joyful Moments"

Can you believe that? The article itself was a cross between pidgin-English and outright gibberish. People who produce this sort of stuff make we want to hurl and I'm betting it's equally frustrating for the guys at SEOLV.

The super-lazy types aren't even bothering to spin their articles to any level, they just run them multiple times through various translation tools and that's why we are seeing these illiterate efforts. I think there should be some sort of, "report this article", function.

Another worrying thing I've heard (on this forum) is the support staff are encouraging people to increase the number of categories for articles which has led to some openly admitting they select large numbers of categories whether relevant or not. Some even select ALL categories apparently. This is hugely frustrating, especially when you go to the trouble of linking your blog's categories to those of SEOLV in the hope of keeping things themed.

I get articles about building chicken coups in my politics blog, for example. What possible connection can there be? This effectively means you can't allow auto-posting and manually need to check everything which negates most of the benefit of the content side of SEOLV. Again, lazy and selfish people spoiling it for everyone.

Over time this tool could be great BUT the abusers will have to be weeded out if this is to happen. That will be a big task which is why I think allowing the community to self-regulate would be a good move. Even if we could block receiving articles from a given source that would be a start.

The final huge miss is the lack of a forum or other venue to discuss these things. Quite a few SEOLV threads have been locked because they have wandered into support discussions and I understand that. I hope something official from SEOLV will be forthcoming soon because it's really needed.

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Marie A

16 years ago

I have similar problems to most of the posters here as well.

I shall probably see how it goes for another month.

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chini

16 years ago

Its not that great, the network is full of ****ty no PR sites, and content isn't really distributed on related sites. But this can be said for all the link networks out there

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allweb

16 years ago

I recently switched from UAW to using SEOLV for all my sites. I trust it's a good linking system solely based on Brad Callen's reputation. However, I'm not getting any links from blogs with any decent PR. I believe it's too early to tell if SEOLV will be as good as Brad stated in the last pre-launch. I guess we will see over time if it's truly worth it. My experience with UAW system was awful! Clunky and time consuming, but the links did boost my site up in the SERPS

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JackPowers

16 years ago

I've been using SEOLinkvine for a little over two months now and have been generally satisfied.

This was my first attemt with a blog network, so I didn't really know what to expect. I did know that this was not a magic pill or overnight #1 ranking tool. There is no such thing in SEO.

What SEOLinkvine does is much like an article marketing campaign. It's a way to get your content out there on a bunch of websites. It's comparable in my opinion to submitting an article to hundreds of article directories, besides that there is less restrictions to follow.

The cool thing about a network like this is that your backlinks continue to grow without any involvement on your part after you submit your article. That's great if you have many websites.

Ok, so how has it worked for me?

First of all, the software is very easy to use. I write three similar articles (or buy PLR, but unique is better), and then spin them for submission with my article submitter (Milan's AAS). I rotate the resource box around a 3-4 keywords and paste it straight into the WYSIWYG editor in SEOLinkvine. Takes only a few seconds. Then you have to write headlines and here I wish Brad would have kept the {|}, so could just paste the spun headlines straight in, instead of having to write one on each line. After that you choose your categories and other options. All in all, only takes a minute or two to do.

The article is then sent out for approval to the member blogs. I generally get a very high acceptance rate (90%+). The number of blogs I get published on vary between topics. My number one article got around 100 publishes in a month, while some seem stuck forever at only a few. On average, I would say 30-40 links. I think that's decent. It's impossible to say how many will be indexed and found as backlinks. Not more than 20%-30% is my experience. But that doesn't have to mean they are not counted.

My results have been quite good. As I expected, SEO Linkvine is great for going after a new keyword. I've jumped from positions like 70-80 to around 20-30 in a short time. Or from 27 to 7 for a low competition long tail keyword.

That's good in my book. This system is not for going after highly competetive keywords. It's for getting the base links for your targeted keywords. Anchor text is so important and that's what SEO Linkvine delivers. It tells Google that you have a site which should be considered for that keyword.

I doubt SEO Linkvine is going to deliver any #1 results for competetive keywords, but it's good for long tail keywords and low competetion keywords. For that last push, I'd rather get thousands of profile links.

In the end, I see SEO Linkvine as another way to get the most out of your content. I like the fact that if I write three articles I can submit them to hundreds of article directories first, then easily paste the article into SEO Linkvine and get another 50-100 backlinks, then fire up SENuke (or do it manually) and get a linkwheel with the same spun article.

So, I think it's worth the money, particularly if you have many sites, but can't say if it's better than the other blog networks.

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jaratvit

16 years ago

Seolinkvine is a good service to build quantity and qualiy backlinks o your site. Good thing about this program is that you build links from different sites with different IP addresses.

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Spot the Ball 16 years ago

I must admit I have been very lazy with SEO Linkvine although I now have a few articles ready to spin and submit over the coming days.

What I have noticed over the past 2 weeks while I have not submitted any is that a keyword with 15,000 exact searches each month has steadily been climbing the serrps (even with no submissions).

I can only assume this is from the articles already submitted which the SE,s are slowly picking up each day.

Keyword started at page 18 or 20, levelled off at between 10 - 12 and has since climbed to page 5, that is with no more submits in over 2 weeks.

I have 6 articles ready to submit for this and another keyword so Im pretty confident of hitting page 1 very soon.

Even better news is I was just spying on a competitors site with sem rush and this site apparently gets 200,000 hits a month for the related keywords I,m going for
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