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Strange SEO Case

by Piscola
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Im really frustrated with this SEO case, i have optimizing a website have done onpage optimization and offpage, but the number 1 spot is taken for a site that has 5 backlinks , 2 of them PR1 ,others PR0 and none of them are optimized for the keyword, on the other hand i have many backlinks with high pr with the proper anchor text. My competitor is on place 1 an i on place 12.

And the search resutls inlcude google maps i dont know if this affects in something the rankings....im not intrested on maps, but i wish to understand why is happening this....

thanks
#case #seo #strange
  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    How did you determine it only has 5 backlinks? Hope you did not use the Google link: operator.

    Can you tell us the URL's (or PM me) - I always up for a bit of analysis.
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      How did you determine it only has 5 backlinks? Hope you did not use the Google link: operator.

      Can you tell us the URL's (or PM me) - I always up for a bit of analysis.
      With backlink watch, yahoo site explorer, market samurai, SEO spyglass.
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    Maybe its just too early to deterime a problem. Just keep biulding links
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      perhaps, but it havent got any variations in the serps i have been building some high pr do follow links, i should expect some movement...
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    What is the age difference for the 2 pages?
    And how long have the links pointing to those pages existed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      The difference is 3 years..
      How can i know the time of backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author ordinary
    let us see the website you are talking about....

    im curious too .. 5 backlinks only to get #1.. and highest is PR 2.
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  • Profile picture of the author iklanbaris2010
    I agree with dvdual ..I think the problem is your site's age..Your competitor may be older then yours..It does matter..Because, in my opinion, It really affect on SEO...Keep do link building ..Good luck..
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  • Profile picture of the author Arich123
    PR does not matter in Ranking
    So keep building quality links to your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      Originally Posted by ordinary View Post

      let us see the website you are talking about....

      im curious too .. 5 backlinks only to get #1.. and highest is PR 2.
      My competitor is todogalpon.cl search it

      Originally Posted by iklanbaris2010 View Post

      I agree with dvdual ..I think the problem is your site's age..Your competitor may be older then yours..It does matter..Because, in my opinion, It really affect on SEO...Keep do link building ..Good luck..
      I agree that this could be the main difference, but i have outranked sites for other terms with same age difference, so i dificult to believe that this is one main factor in this case

      Originally Posted by Arich123 View Post

      PR does not matter in Ranking
      So keep building quality links to your site.
      Who is talking about PR in rankings???? please read the post.....
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam7
        Yeah, I'm going to agree that a lot of it has to do with the age of the domain. If your site is new and that site has been around for years, Google still considers them more authoritative regardless of the number of back links (within reason). I've also read that Google gives preference to sites based on existing traffic volume.
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        • Profile picture of the author Piscola
          Originally Posted by Adam7 View Post

          Yeah, I'm going to agree that a lot of it has to do with the age of the domain. If your site is new and that site has been around for years, Google still considers them more authoritative regardless of the number of back links (within reason). I've also read that Google gives preference to sites based on existing traffic volume.
          Yes age could be, but the difference is huge between 1st place and 12th place, to be just only domain age...about the traffic volume,can't say that is real, have any prove of this?
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  • Profile picture of the author CliveG
    Age seems to be quite key sometimes. I manage a website for a customer that is in direct competition with one other site. "My" website is updated regularly, the other is not, we have more and more relevant content and so far as we can tell more and better backlinks. But we cannot take the top spot in Google. We are at #2, the competitor is at #1. Their domain name has a slightly better suffix than ours but is otherwise identical except that their domain name was registered some 12 years ago and ours was registered only 10 years ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      Originally Posted by CliveG View Post

      Age seems to be quite key sometimes. I manage a website for a customer that is in direct competition with one other site. "My" website is updated regularly, the other is not, we have more and more relevant content and so far as we can tell more and better backlinks. But we cannot take the top spot in Google. We are at #2, the competitor is at #1. Their domain name has a slightly better suffix than ours but is otherwise identical except that their domain name was registered some 12 years ago and ours was registered only 10 years ago.
      Seems to be a similar case and i can undestand but the some of difference i have between pages in the first page is the same or 2 years...i am talking about 10 spots of difference, not competing with just one site which is much older than mine.

      Im still thinking that the presence of google maps is affecting in some way the ranking of the serps for my keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author HorseStall
    Is your site new? The other site established? That may be the root of the problem. Increase backlinks, and watch the "bounce rate". I suspect that is playing a bigger role in ranking than it did previously.
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    • Profile picture of the author Piscola
      has 3 years, the other has 5, i will increase backlinks but i think that is not the issue....
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I don't normally have much of a problem overtaking older domains.

    How long have you been working this? Where did the site start at (ie, have you got it to move at all?)?

    I've had sites go from page 18, to page 8, to page 3, to the bottom of page 1 over the course of a few months after doing SEO work on it.. then they start to work their way up page 1. Now, keep this in mind - there was no more seo work or backlinking done when the site was on page 18, and when it hit the top of page 1. The only difference was time.

    If you're on page seo is actually solid, based on the lack of backlinks the competition has - I say give it a bit more time.
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    • Profile picture of the author HCLee
      I think it may be possible that that site is being linked to a few high PR sites but you are unable to tell this just by checking most of the backlink tools you are using. As far as I know there isn't a tool that can show all your backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author links900
    1. Other Site is old
    2. Now yahoo explorer and backlink watch are also not giving the exact or good number of backlinks and specially for those websites whic are at top spot of google.
    3. You may need to do some work on onsite factors too.
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