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by FrankBowman

Posted: 15 years ago 24 replies

I made this post on another thread but I figured I would start its own thread and see if anyone else has had this happen.........here's the post.
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I did an interesting test about a month ago. I have a client who is in a very small niche. Her website was created about 4 years ago without any seo in mind. In fact for this very small niche it did not even show up in the first 300 search results.

I then started making 3 blog comments per day on NOFOLLOW blogs only, some with the targeted keywords for the anchor text in the name filed, some with just my name.

I did this religiously for every day for about three weeks, 3 comments a day.

Now my clients site in #1 on page 1 for the targeted keywords. Nothing changed on the website, zero, no on page optimization, no new content.

Now obviously because this is an ultra small niche it was much easier to move the site up in the Serps, but I now know that in terms of Serps, the "nofollow" tag has no relevance as far as I'm concerned, it might in terms of PageRank but I wasn't interested in that.

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aaron_nimocks 15 years ago

100% correct.

Nofollow only effects pagerank and has nothing to do with SERPS.
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__internet__ 15 years ago

There's a lot of people that have noticed that nofollow links actually help with rankings. It doesn't make any sense since Google says that they don't count. However, I think sometimes they count nofollow links as real links because the bot messes up. It's hard to say, but you're not the only one that has said this. In the past, I would try not to get nofollow links, but now it doesn't even matter to me. If it's nofollow, I'd still get it because you just dont know if they're going to be counted or not.
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- ifsworks 15 years ago
  
  Nofollow and dofollow are only for page rank, and not for rankings. Sometimes they get counted by other search engine links, and keep weight on serp rankings. So finally, both are useful to us.
  
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FrankBowman 15 years ago

I think the bots recognize the link and the anchor text but simply don't let pagerank flow plus I'm sure they don't follow the link to my site. But the connection between the keyword, the site the link is placed on (relevance) and my site is taken into consideration by google.............i think
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- paulgl 15 years ago
  
  PR does have something to do with SERPs.
  What sites google considers first is based on
  PR. A higher PR site will be considered first.
  But that doesn't mean a lower PR site will
  not beat a higher PR site. You need to be more
  relevant.
  
  But don't think all those no follow links somehow
  pushed you to the top. They didn't.
  
  High PR non-no follow links are light years more
  valuable than no follow ones.
  
  As stated, backlinks are a vote. The more votes, the
  more you are considered. But it does not mean you
  win each. I have a zillion no follow links as well. But in one
  website of mine, it's my 4 high PR backlinks that have
  shot me to top, not the gazillion no follow ones.
  the top.
  
  You can have a #1 site with no backlinks. What does
  that prove? Nothing.
  
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actionplanbiz 15 years ago

I promoted a site with all nofollw backlinks from only high pr pages, as a result my site developed a PR of 3.
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- paulgl 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by JasonDevans
  
  I know for a fact that even if nofollow, you are credited in some way shape or form with your website being indexed.
  
  No follow has nothing to do with indexing or crawling.
  It has to do with passing PR to a link. That's it.
  No more no less.
  
  no follow neither prevents nor causes a site to be crawled or indexed.
  That's entirely up to google to decide. My sites get indexed because
  google wants to index them. no follow does not prevent crawling nor
  indexing. That's not what the tag was created by google for.
  
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forumer147 15 years ago

I have read in some articles before that no follow tags is not considered useless when it comes to SEO.. I guess Google tends to mess up reading the tags which result to helping them in indexing site... So do you think it is much better to use both no follow and do follow in building site?
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cbpayne

15 years ago

Originally Posted by FrankBowman

Now my clients site in #1 on page 1 for the targeted keywords. Nothing changed on the website, zero, no on page optimization, no new content.

How did you determine it was number one? Are you sure that you are not looking at the Google personalization of the search results and its only number one for you?

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FrankBowman

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cbpayne

How did you determine it was number one? Are you sure that you are not looking at the Google personalization of the search results and its only number one for you?

Thanks for the heads up cbpayne, but I am aware of the personalisation and know not to be signed in when searching, thanks.

Oh and it showed up#1 on 7 different pcs all on separate IPs

......been doing this for a little....

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alfredthomson 15 years ago

Everything has a benefit which you can avail. No-follow links can make your site reach to the top but if there is a lot of competition then you can't make your website to reach position 1 with only no-follow links. You have to find do-follow links as well...
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risahe 15 years ago

no follow is also useful
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tompatrick 15 years ago

no follow neither has the relevance for the SERPs neither It has relevancy to the PR of the page it is only good for attracting relevant traffic
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desmondchui 15 years ago

thanks for sharing, at least we know it now
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  neyaz 15 years ago
  
  I have seen in most of the articles and comment that no follow is not useful for search engine in any views may be in SERP or PR but its useful visitor and get more traffic
  
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jaybo

14 years ago

I suspected this nofollow not being useless, this thread confirms my thoughts. Would be nice to do a test someday!

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thetruth23

14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

PR does have something to do with SERPs.
What sites google considers first is based on
PR. A higher PR site will be considered first.
But that doesn't mean a lower PR site will
not beat a higher PR site. You need to be more
relevant.

But don't think all those no follow links somehow
pushed you to the top. They didn't.

So what do you think caused it to get up from over #300 to #1 ?

As the OP said, the only changes made were these no-follow links. I'm thinking it wasn't 3 months extra domain age, but then what, if not the links?

As stated, backlinks are a vote. The more votes, the
more you are considered. But it does not mean you
win each. I have a zillion no follow links as well. But in one
website of mine, it's my 4 high PR backlinks that have
shot me to top, not the gazillion no follow ones.
the top.

Paul

How do you know for sure it was just your 4 high PR backlinks that pushed you over the top?

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jaybo 14 years ago

I think nofollow links are usefull for SERP if the niche is small enough. In my country there are not many dofollow blogs so I think SERP do look at the anchor text and give them weight. And because there aren't any competitors they rank high on the anchor text even though it is nofollow
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Marketing Ignite 14 years ago

According to Matt Cutts Google engineer it wont pass on link juice nor page rank...however, that is what he says but there are many things that he will never share due to protecting the SERPs which is understandable...
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HunterSnake 14 years ago

NoFollow Vs. DoFollow is a frequent topic of discussion and debate here. I think that I should reference two previous threads which I was involved in. They may prove useful.

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-bing-aol.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...e-ranking.html
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Steven Carl Kelly

14 years ago

Threads like these just go to show exactly how much BAD information exists out there. Unfortunately, there are plenty of so-called "experts" who share bad information (such as "nofollow links are useless for SEO") and people believe it.

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HunterSnake

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

That's why I just linked two previous threads which this whole NoFollow vs. DoFollow thing was beaten to death. There is a lot of bad information circulating the Internet concerning both... If only people would actually listen to what Google says... Lol.

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Steven Carl Kelly

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HunterSnake

There are actually DOZENS of such threads over the years. It can make you weary.

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HunterSnake 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly

There are actually DOZENS of such threads over the years. It can make you weary.

Yea, I just linked two which I participated in. It's funny how this is the SEO category of Warrior Forums and people don't know how to use search engines properly.
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