Going Big with MFA Sites? How viable is this?

by Clyde
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So I got a call from the bank earlier and they told me I could get a $30k+ personal loan. Payment term is over 7 years, so around $700-$800/month.

My plan.

1. Buy 1000 domain names.
2. Register 5 adsense accounts under different entities, don't interlink them, access from different IP's etc.
3. Buy 125 IP's at SEO-hosting, and host 10 sites per IP.
4. Hire 2 article writers to write at $1/100 words, so each site gets 1 article, 750 words so $7.5.
5. Hire 3 more article writers to do UAW submissions.
6. Interlink the websites but not the ones on the same IP.
7. Wait 3 months.
8. Profit?

Any thoughts?
#big #mfa #sites #viable
  • Profile picture of the author lisaann
    I think you're crazy.

    Why not build something of value instead of just junk, especially with borrowed money.

    The bank's nuts to give that money to you.

    Lisa
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    • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
      Same here, you,d be crazy to blow that on adsense sites.

      Why not just spend a couple grand ... maximum and then build a handfull of sites that you can get 20,000 eyeballs to each month through organic seo (to each site). Promote affiliate products then introduce cpa when you got good traffic to those sites.

      Even concentrate on getting 1 site to that level and then keep on re-investing the profits, it would soon snowball.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    My site provide information that's useful to the user. Instead of writing 10 pages of nonsense, I write 1 750 words article that can cure AIDS. (i.e: give reviews, compare products, bizrate.com style)

    MFA sites don't have to be junk.
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    • Profile picture of the author lukemeister
      Sounds like an awfully risky way to spend 30,000

      If I was in your shoes, I just start by building one site at a time and not taking a loan, why dig a deep hole for what's basically going to be a test? You could eventually scale up to 1000 sites over time
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    • Profile picture of the author jazbo
      You write info thats useful - you write about how to cure an incurable disease?

      Am I understanding this correctly?

      you want to spend $30k on churning out mindless spam in order to scrape in pennies from adsense.

      One word. Nuts.



      Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

      My site provide information that's useful to the user. Instead of writing 10 pages of nonsense, I write 1 750 words article that can cure AIDS. (i.e: give reviews, compare products, bizrate.com style)

      MFA sites don't have to be junk.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clyde
        Originally Posted by jazbo View Post

        You write info thats useful - you write about how to cure an incurable disease?

        Am I understanding this correctly?

        you want to spend $30k on churning out mindless spam in order to scrape in pennies from adsense.

        One word. Nuts.
        These are product related sites (anything with a commercial intent really) that provide better information than bizrate and amazon. It's comparable to about.com, howto.com and associatedcontent's business model only that I do it over 1000 domains instead of just 1.

        and I wouldn't call $500/day passive income "pennies".

        I'm pretty sure I can pick an article on EZA that's SPAM to me rather easily..

        Anyway, only one way to find out, thanks for the feedback.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hyaku_Man
          Why are you even bothering to ask? You asked this on another forum as well and there people also told you your plan is nuts. But you seem like you're already convinced and are rejecting everybody's objections. So why are you even asking?

          I think your plan is nuts by the way. Yes, $500 a day is not pennies but I seriously doubt you will make $500 a day from this plan. 1 article per site? Please. What you will have is a pile of websites that make you nothing, and a few that bring in a bit of money because the stars were aligned perfectly wen you choose the niche and keywords.
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        • Profile picture of the author RichardHK
          Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

          ... ...
          Anyway, only one way to find out, thanks for the feedback.
          Sounds like you are stuck in your own groove and not wanting to change. If I were you I would follow the advice of several here and run a small pilot exercise of say 10-20 websites - without borrowing any money.

          If you are really on to a goldmine, you will find out soon enough. If your 10-20 sites struggle to convert visitors, you can adjust your plans and save your skin.

          Going into debt for so much cash sounds great, but those b*stard bankers have ruined enough lives already with their easy money. Don't fall for it mate.
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          • Profile picture of the author Spot the Ball
            Imagine the headache of trying to track 1000 sites all with 1 page of content that could drop from page 1 rankings on a daily basis .... meaning tracking each and every site and then getting those sites more backlinks
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            • Profile picture of the author Hyaku_Man
              Originally Posted by Spot the Ball View Post

              Imagine the headache of trying to track 1000 sites all with 1 page of content that could drop from page 1 rankings on a daily basis .... meaning tracking each and every site and then getting those sites more backlinks
              I don't think he's expecting to do stuff like tracking. He wants to kick back and watch the money just roll in on autopilot.
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              • Profile picture of the author Rysk
                Absolutely Crazy Idea
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            • Profile picture of the author persianprince
              It's not a headache at all.

              Of course with this many sites you would have a proper system in place to manage them.

              Originally Posted by Spot the Ball View Post

              Imagine the headache of trying to track 1000 sites all with 1 page of content that could drop from page 1 rankings on a daily basis .... meaning tracking each and every site and then getting those sites more backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author lisaann
    I have my writers put together SEVERAL feature articles that are 750 words with very high quality content (I do pay a lot more than $1 per 100 words) for each site.

    Then I have them put together SEVERAL well written articles of about 250 to 500 words per site. Each site has dozens, sometimes 100's of very readable material that solves real problems and is very helpful.

    Then between myself and a team of outsourcers I get quality backlinks; UAW is just one source. Plus I naturally get links over time because the sites are seen as resources.

    I try to create something better than about.com or other top sites on the internet for every site I build. This mentality of putting out great content and building high quality sites has been very lucrative for me.

    You're aiming very low and shooting for quantity over quality. Yours is not a long-term plan, yet you're planning on borrowing money long-term. It's a recipe for disaster.

    I guess everyone has their own way of doing things, but you're crazy to take out a bank loan with a business model like that.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    Just because you pay more doesn't mean you put out better quality articles than mine. Bottom line is ROI and quality links are only proven if it improves your ranking and the ROI justifies it.

    Do you make back what you spent? in 3 months?

    Thanks for the input.
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  • Profile picture of the author mainstreetcm
    Ok. Why don't you just spend the cash on developing ONE or TWO content authority sites for any niche you want. Then generate as much traffic as you can with the rest of your cash. Join a CPM network that pays $3 - $4 per CPM (they do exist) and then find a pop under network that pays similarly.

    Seems a lot less stressful than trying to run 1000 websites that could be slapped in an instant with any future google algo update. Or you could just hit up Vegas and put $10,000 on black three times. You might have better odds.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    I wouldn't do it. I'd go to Flippa and buy websites already earning revenue. Just one website will be enough to cover your monthly minimum for your loan.
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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    What is the purpose of this thread? You've already made up your mind so this is pointless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Olson
    OR, go local with it instead of adsense. Buy 10 domains for each niche and dominate the entire first page of google for each niche. Then rent out each site to 1 or 2 different local businesses for $400 a pop. Lets say you get 4 sites rented for 800 (400x2 biz) thats $3200 a month per niche.

    Do it, Do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I wouldn't do it. I'd go to Flippa and buy websites already earning revenue. Just one website will be enough to cover your monthly minimum for your loan.
    Best advice so far. Instead of 1000 sites, shoot for 250 or maybe even just 100 that are already earning. Just having ones that are several months old is a big advantage over new ones and, of course, earnings are always good. You can buy them right here in the Websites For Sale section too.

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  • Profile picture of the author FreshPLR
    Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

    So I got a call from the bank earlier and they told me I could get a $30k+ personal loan. Payment term is over 7 years, so around $700-$800/month.

    My plan.

    1. Buy 1000 domain names.
    2. Register 5 adsense accounts under different entities, don't interlink them, access from different IP's etc.
    3. Buy 125 IP's at SEO-hosting, and host 10 sites per IP.
    4. Hire 2 article writers to write at $1/100 words, so each site gets 1 article, 750 words so $7.5.
    5. Hire 3 more article writers to do UAW submissions.
    6. Interlink the websites but not the ones on the same IP.
    7. Wait 3 months.
    8. Profit?

    Any thoughts?
    Blimey! why make things so difficult for yourself :confused:

    Just build one AUTHORITY site - same volume of articles - and you should dominate the niche, and have higher profits.

    And managing 1,000 domains, what unecessary cost and a headache.
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      Originally Posted by FreshPLR View Post

      Blimey! why make things so difficult for yourself :confused:

      Just build one AUTHORITY site - same volume of articles - and you should dominate the niche, and have higher profits.

      And managing 1,000 domains, what unecessary cost and a headache.
      And the best answer goes to....

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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

    So I got a call from the bank earlier and they told me I could get a $30k+ personal loan.
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    Anyway, only one way to find out, thanks for the feedback.
    Here's what I think...




    My recommendation would be to start small, learn the ropes, get the tools you need and the outside help you need, expand, rinse/repeat. Oh, and cash flow it as much as possible and stay away from the credit cards and loans.
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  • Profile picture of the author inter123
    Reading your previous posts, I was under the impression you already had hundreds of mini MFA sites raking in a few hundred dollars a day. So just wondering the purpose of the post?


    Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

    So I got a call from the bank earlier and they told me I could get a $30k+ personal loan. Payment term is over 7 years, so around $700-$800/month.

    My plan.

    1. Buy 1000 domain names.
    2. Register 5 adsense accounts under different entities, don't interlink them, access from different IP's etc.
    3. Buy 125 IP's at SEO-hosting, and host 10 sites per IP.
    4. Hire 2 article writers to write at $1/100 words, so each site gets 1 article, 750 words so $7.5.
    5. Hire 3 more article writers to do UAW submissions.
    6. Interlink the websites but not the ones on the same IP.
    7. Wait 3 months.
    8. Profit?

    Any thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author Clyde
      Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

      Reading your previous posts, I was under the impression you already had hundreds of mini MFA sites raking in a few hundred dollars a day. So just wondering the purpose of the post?
      You're right, I should have just done it because only I know what I actually know.

      Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
    Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

    So I got a call from the bank earlier and they told me I could get a $30k+ personal loan. Payment term is over 7 years, so around $700-$800/month.

    My plan.

    1. Buy 1000 domain names.
    2. Register 5 adsense accounts under different entities, don't interlink them, access from different IP's etc.
    3. Buy 125 IP's at SEO-hosting, and host 10 sites per IP.
    4. Hire 2 article writers to write at $1/100 words, so each site gets 1 article, 750 words so $7.5.
    5. Hire 3 more article writers to do UAW submissions.
    6. Interlink the websites but not the ones on the same IP.
    7. Wait 3 months.
    8. Profit?

    Any thoughts?
    Great idea! Go ahead! Start BIG! Make it BIG! All the way! Horray!


    Just don't come back 3 months later with another post saying "I'm $30,000 in debt because Google slapped all my sites because of XYZ...."
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    Man, you're taking a HUGE risk. MFA sites are deindex prone.

    MFA = Mothaf**k Adsense
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  • Profile picture of the author KC-Coop
    Definitely not the way that I would spend $30,000.

    I would use all of that to build one or two large authority sites and promote those.

    You are spreading yourself way too thin to create over 1000 sites - even if the content is superb.

    Alternatively you could start a huge article directory - that would allow you to focus on a ton of niches, get a crap load of content in it from the beginning and start building links to ONE site.

    After a few months you could open the site up for submissions and you'd have a much larger asset then 1000 MFA sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    Seriously listen to everyone else....you are nuts for even thinking of this!

    What happens if you get banned by adsense or your 1000 junk mini sites get deindexed? Then what? Your 30K in the hole actually more with interest charged.

    Im sitting here really amazed surely this is some kind of joke? Get a loan for $2-3K if you have to....otherwise your better off buying 30K worth of Gold or Silver and hanging on to your seat, because your idea sounds like a huge disaster in the making.
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  • Profile picture of the author WareTime
    My psychic told me I'd win the lottery and quit my job.

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  • Profile picture of the author Reverb
    I'd go with much fewer sites that have much more content per site, but that's just me. Good luck if you go through with it. And let us know how it's working out after a few months.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketAbel
    So does this guys still lurk around here at WF? It has been 4 months since his post....surely he either got the loan or he didn't by now.

    One I don't see how IM takes thousands of dollars to 'start' let alone continue because IF it is a profitable business model you should be MAKING money.

    I think this was a case of more MONEY than CENTS. er....SENSE.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    This post is an exact replica of the one posted over at "w1ck3df1re" by "Clyde" (if I remember the username correctly).

    Either you're "clyde", or you're copying his risky venture (or he's copying yours).

    In any case, I thouhgt you were already engaging in a 1000 domain adsense network some months ago?
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    It seems the banks have still not learnt their lessons from their last brush with bankrupcy.
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    • Profile picture of the author culvers
      Why are people calling them junk websites without even seeing them?

      99% of websites out there are total trash, including most of what people have in their sigs.

      Just because you have 10000000 pages of mindless drivel rewritten from articles you found at ezine, it doesn't mean you have a "quality" "authority" site.

      If I type in "how to get rid of thrush" and get a 700 word article on a 1 page site, which gives me a good answer to my question, is it a junk site? The snobbery on this forum is becoming enormous.
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      • Profile picture of the author pirondi
        You will never known until you try.

        But the key of your strategy is not the investment,is the seo knowledge.

        If you have a backlink system that are working to put your websites in the 1 page,then you just need to scale.

        First start with 30 websites,if your seo system are working,then you can scale to 100,1000.

        And even if you fail,the knowledge that you will gain about ranking websites are iinmensurable.

        The most important thing i man need to be successfully is ambition,you will never win until you go All in.
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