Your thoughts on Ryan Deiss' Activity Theory...

16 years ago

Yes, same Idea I got when reading his pdf...
Would it be a good idea to flood in all this spammers messages, so you get much more links and activity? Or are this spam-messages bad for your image ? reducing google score of your site?

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petelta

16 years ago

Originally Posted by thehobbster

Letting spam through for backlinks and activity screams desparation to me. And horribly unprofessional.

You would think, but Google isn't going to look at your actual comments. It might be a good thought until you get your search engine rankings...once that everyday traffic comes in that naturally comments on your posts, have your outsourcers clean it up.

A bunch of spam comments just screams the blog owner doesn't screen the comments. I see plenty of successful blogs with spammers on it.

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Fraggler

16 years ago

Originally Posted by petelta

You would think, but Google isn't going to look at your actual comments. It might be a good thought until you get your search engine rankings...once that everyday traffic comes in that naturally comments on your posts, have your outsourcers clean it up. .

Your site will turn into a bad backlink neighbourhood and your rankings won't climb because of it.

Also, no one will want to comment on a site full of spam.

If you want to get fresh content on your site then post some regular on topic news.

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petelta

16 years ago

Well I already have daily posts being done. More what I meant about allowing "spam comments" wouldn't be those comments with just a million links or even a single link in the actual comment. But those that actual use real names, but have unrelated links through there name.

This way it doesn't come off as spam, you just have a few comments that say "Great post."

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Your site will turn into a bad backlink neighbourhood and your rankings won't climb because of it.

Also, no one will want to comment on a site full of spam.

If you want to get fresh content on your site then post some regular on topic news.

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Groovystar

16 years ago

My blog's so quiet sometimes I actually wish people would spam it.

...wait, no, I don't.

What does that say for your blog to people who might have actually legitly wanted to link to it? You might lose out on a good opportunity because you wind up looking like someone who neglects your site.

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.X.

16 years ago

My thoughts . . .

Total B.S.

I have a site, that's been top 10 in Google for
primary keyword for YEARS now without any
content *at all* on the site, nevermind regular
updates.

It's not a fluke. I have plenty examples of
sites with high Google rankings that haven't
been touched for years at a time.

It *could* vary from niche to niche, but I
don't think so.

I'm not going to say ALWAYS or NEVER,
but . . .

If you're spending a lot of time updating
your sites to achieve higher rankings - or
opening up to comment spam - then you're
probably doing nothing more than wasting
time and degrading your product.

Flip, I've personally wasted plenty of time
with regular updates and spent plenty of
money paying others to do it too - a 100%
waste if you ask me.

Unless you can prove to yourself that you
have high search rankings BECAUSE OF
regular updates, consider my perspective.

All that aside, Google is aware of bad
neighborhoods and if you're linking to
sites in bad neighborhoods then . . .
maybe you're a bad neighborhood.

Just sayin'.

Quality almost always trumps quantity,
unless you're talking about the eating
habits of American's but that's another
story.

X

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bgmacaw

16 years ago

Originally Posted by .X.

My thoughts . . .

Total B.S.

I have a site, that's been top 10 in Google for
primary keyword for YEARS now without any
content *at all* on the site, nevermind regular
updates.

My thoughts as well.

There are some niches, such as celebrity news, that do require frequent updating. However, if you're writing about the virtues of 4 slice toasters or how you're a fan of a 1970's Sci-Fi TV series, frequent updates aren't needed.

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fortony

16 years ago

Originally Posted by .X.

My thoughts . . .

Total B.S.

I have a site, that's been top 10 in Google for
primary keyword for YEARS now without any
content *at all* on the site, nevermind regular
updates.

It's not a fluke. I have plenty examples of
sites with high Google rankings that haven't
been touched for years at a time.

It *could* vary from niche to niche, but I
don't think so.

Unless you can prove to yourself that you
have high search rankings BECAUSE OF
regular updates, consider my perspective.

All that aside, Google is aware of bad
neighborhoods and if you're linking to
sites in bad neighborhoods then . . .
maybe you're a bad neighborhood.

Just sayin'.

Quality almost always trumps quantity,
unless you're talking about the eating
habits of American's but that's another
story.

X

Just curious about your techniques. What do you recommend besides quality over quantity?

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Dayne Dylan

Banned 16 years ago

This is not rocket science folks and there is no need to buy Ryan's new product.

If you want long term success with a site, with good rankings, follow the KISS method ("Keep It Simple Stupid")...have great content and keep it growing, optimize for keywords, get quality backlinks from related sites, and keep at it.

It really is that simple. This has always worked. And not only that, your rankings will STICK better with this method versus all these "quick" ranking SEO techniques like Deiss is trying to introduce.

Just my two cents.

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SteveSki

16 years ago

He sure can crank out the products and does a great job on his sales letters, videos and webinars. He is very good at what he does and offers a no questions asked 100% guarantee on all of his products but I don't know if his products live up to the sales hype. I suspect that he has a higher than average refund rate.

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Jeff Hampton

16 years ago

Google has recently changed their infrastructure. For some sites, new content is literally indexed within seconds. But only for some sites. How do they decide which sites? Activity.

Google's Caffeine: a Transition From Months to Seconds

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Black Hat Cat

Banned 16 years ago

Personally, I'd hesitate to buy seo info from a guy who thinks the google keyword tool represents daily searches. If he's so wrong on something so basic, who knows what else he is wrong about.

Originally Posted by austinjeff

Google has recently changed their infrastructure. For some sites, new content is literally indexed within seconds. But only for some sites. How do they decide which sites? Activity.

Google's Caffeine: a Transition From Months to Seconds

Indexing isn't ranking. And quick indexing didn't start with Caffeine. Quick indexing with active blogs/sites has been going on for at least 2 years now.

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Vikram73

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat

Personally, I'd hesitate to buy seo info from a guy who thinks the google keyword tool represents daily searches. If he's so wrong on something so basic, who knows what else he is wrong about.

Yes - he's pretty glib in his report about no-follow links and some other pretty basic stuff.

This guy was telling people a while back "AdWords sucks! The best traffic source is Facebook!!".

Now he's back saying "PPC sucks! The best traffic source is Google!".

Next year he'll be telling people "Link building sucks! I just discovered this secret traffic source that lets me buy clicks for pennies!".

At which a point a new thread must appear on the Warrior Forum with people flaming him for his crappy PPV product.

-Vikram

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moneymarker 16 years ago

well, there is a way to magnify the quantity of a site's activity without actually doing no more than what you currently are....and no you don't have to use spam comments either...

Another solution is to grab a domain that is already generating some activity (traffic). This can range somewhere from $5 to less than a hundred - some with pageranks and are aged.
If you want to find these domains and time factor is not an issue, Godaddy has a free tool to do just that.

Otherwise, i will post more on these later
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samcarson

16 years ago

It is B.S. in my opinion. Google Caffeine changes rolled out in early May and the 2 main impact areas are: new content gets indexed in minutes and the loading time of a site is a major factor.

These so called gurus are peddling new products and making a ton of money with mailing lists, JV's etc. When they sell PPC products it is the best thing since sliced bread and now natural SEO is great.

Just focus on good content and the back links will come automatically. Automate your wordpress blogs with Social Bookmarking Plug-ins and RSS Feeds.

Sam

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Sylonious

16 years ago

Well, you can get people to post 50-100 word comments on your own blog for like 5 cents (per comment) on mturk.

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Banned 16 years ago

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Fraggler

16 years ago

You mentioned automated commenting powered by proxies and other bookmarking tools that are a big no-no here.

Have you bought the product?

The course may not be teaching the nitty gritty of SEO but I would hope it covers more than your post.

What about site structure, site code, site speed, expected phrasing and relevant supporting info, over optimisation etc? ...an SEO course should be teaching you about SEO.

I am still to hear about anyone who owns the product...but apparently you do to create an alternative?

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ZaneAbden

16 years ago

no i didnt buy it but I managed to get high convertable SEO result in a cheap and fast way. i guess this course is for people who have time and money to spend monthes learning every bit step in SEO without need to concern about when they gonna get their investment back

we both know that SEO alone will not make your site sell, there are more to consider here

at the end of the day the question is what do you really want? a high page optimized with convertable traffic that sell ? or just a pack of SEO knowledge? the choice is yours

Originally Posted by Fraggler

You mentioned automated commenting powered by proxies and other bookmarking tools that are a big no-no here.

Have you bought the product?

The course may not be teaching the nitty gritty of SEO but I would hope it covers more than your post.

What about site structure, site code, site speed, expected phrasing and relevant supporting info, over optimisation etc? ...an SEO course should be teaching you about SEO.

I am still to hear about anyone who owns the product...but apparently you do to create an alternative?

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