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Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed?

by Michael Nguyen
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Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed even though you KNOW it has been crawled, ie pinged and digged, placed on high traffic websites etc

What do you think?

I need to refine my seo process so I'm not wasting time. What do you think?

Best regards
Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author inter123
    How do you know it has definately been crawled even though its on high traffic site like digg? I would have thought it has be indexed for link juice to be passed.

    There are many tools available to get backlinks indexed, unless they are selling a service that is not needed.

    Originally Posted by Michael Nguyen View Post

    Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed even though you KNOW it has been crawled, ie pinged and digged

    What do you think?

    I need to refine my seo process so I'm not wasting time. What do you think?

    Best regards
    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Gregory
    Originally Posted by Michael Nguyen View Post

    Is link juice passed when a url is NOT indexed even though you KNOW it has been crawled, ie pinged and digged

    What do you think?

    I need to refine my seo process so I'm not wasting time. What do you think?

    Best regards
    Michael
    Just because it has been pinged or dugg does not mean it has been crawled. Yes that gives you a higher chance that it will crawl sooner, but it is not a guarantee.

    Furthermore for any link to pass juice it must have something from the page to pass. If it is not indexed it most certainly does not have any juice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
      Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

      How do you know it has definately been crawled even though its on high traffic site like digg? I would have thought it has be indexed for link juice to be passed.

      There are many tools available to get backlinks indexed, unless they are selling a service that is not needed.
      I know because this is how I get fresh out of the box domains indexed, I Digg, Mixx, Reddit my urls, so I know Google has crawled those sites and then indexes my domain.

      Originally Posted by Peter Gregory View Post

      Just because it has been pinged or dugg does not mean it has been crawled. Yes that gives you a higher chance that it will crawl sooner, but it is not a guarantee.
      As above

      Originally Posted by Peter Gregory View Post

      Furthermore for any link to pass juice it must have something from the page to pass. If it is not indexed it most certainly does not have any juice.
      Well this would be a profile link URL or a web2.0 property with backlink to money site.

      Your last statement as well inter123:
      How do you know for sure, is this based on experience? Logic says that if it's not indexed then it won't pass just to the backlinks but no where does it say that just because your links havent been indexed doesn't mean juice hasn't been passed (provided that Google bots have cralwed).

      Does anyone have first hand experience?

      Best regards
      Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author dhex
    How can you see light if you dont connect the bulb?

    I dont think anybody can tell you this for sure except a Google engineer who has internal access to index servers. What you are asking is similar to trying to find out internal PR of a web, which in my opinion is not possible by any means.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Why would google count a link on a page that it didnt feel was important enough to even put in their index? especially since the threshold to get a page/url/piece of content indexed seems to be so low?

      No guarantees, but dont you want to give your links the "highest probability" to be counted? I did, and hence why I created my plugin to make sure.
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      • Profile picture of the author Natlex
        Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

        Why would google count a link on a page that it didnt feel was important enough to even put in their index? especially since the threshold to get a page/url/piece of content indexed seems to be so low?

        No guarantees, but dont you want to give your links the "highest probability" to be counted? I did, and hence why I created my plugin to make sure.
        Pretty much, if google doesn't even feel like indexing the page why would the backlink have any value?

        Even if it had any value it would be extremely small...
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  • Profile picture of the author eimroda
    I think there is no problem if the juice isn't passed as it is not yet indexed. Just continue creating back links and once it will be indexed, all juices from the previous links will be passed to the site. Besides, a site that is not in the index won't get a PR.
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