Google Penalty - Help me

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Hey Warriors,

I had a new site, which was listed on Page 4 due to my backlinks and I was keep in getting backlinks, but last night, I had seen the site on 400-500 listings not on 40-50 page. That means, the site is under penalty.

So, What I had planned to do is, keep on getting backlinks specially via article submissions. I belive that will lead to removal of penalty sooner. What do you say? Let me know your suggestions warriors,

Regards,
#google #penalty
  • Profile picture of the author simontts
    Are you sure that you have got a Google penalty? Have you any idea why you might have been penalised?

    It could just be the Google Dance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Amenda Jessera
      Originally Posted by simontts View Post

      Are you sure that you have got a Google penalty? Have you any idea why you might have been penalised?

      It could just be the Google Dance.
      Oh really? What is the difference between Google dance and Google penalty?
      Anyways to differentiate & identify it.

      As far as the site was listed back to 400-500 from 40-50, I belived it is penalty.....
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      • Profile picture of the author seomagnet
        Amenda Jessera you really need to select your backlink strategy very carefully, not any backlinks will get you the right results. Trust me, try to concentrate your efforts into getting relevant backlinks from similar sites to yours and not any. 10 targeted backlinks are way better than 100 random links according to Google.

        Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author simontts
    The Google Dance just happens and nobody really knows why. A site will lose its SERPS for a few days and then come back again.

    To jump from 40 to 400 is a large penalty and for this to happen I think you would have a pretty good idea of what actions you might have taken to cause this. Without knowing what you have done wrong, it is difficult to suggest a remedy.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficMystic
    you just need to keep building your back links as you have been doing.. If you stop now all of a sudden will this not look suspicious?

    Keep building them and you rank will quickly rise again
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  • Profile picture of the author Dellco
    Originally Posted by Amenda Jessera View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I had a new site, which was listed on Page 4 due to my backlinks and I was keep in getting backlinks, but last night, I had seen the site on 400-500 listings not on 40-50 page. That means, the site is under penalty.

    So, What I had planned to do is, keep on getting backlinks specially via article submissions. I belive that will lead to removal of penalty sooner. What do you say? Let me know your suggestions warriors,

    Regards,
    Check this thread out, hope it makes a lot of sense to you. You may have been sandboxed....which can happen when a site is new and gets a lot of backlinks.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...1-ranking.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
    Just wait and the "google penalty" will be lifted. Happens all the time.

    in case there are those of you who didn't catch the meaning of the quotes above, I don't think she is penalized.
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  • Profile picture of the author all4rex
    Most probably Google put your site under sandbox.
    Find here tools that test your site for sandbox and penalty
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  • Profile picture of the author netprofit4u
    If your website is new (one year old or less), and you suddenly obtain a lot of backlinks (50 or more) to the same website page, then Google might think that you are buying backlinks, instead of creating them yourself...

    You can prevent Google from penalizing your website by pointing your backlinks to different pages of your website, instead of just the homepage...

    Additionally, to learn more about backlinks and other SEO techniques, you can use my Forum and Blog Directory to get more free help and professional advice...

    Take Care and Good Luck,
    Andre/Admin/NetProfitUpdateNews
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
      First of all.. Relax, it is not a penalty. Google don't give penalties as such they just filter and sort according to their algorithm. If you have done anything that goes against their guidelines you will more likely see a ban either temporary or permanent. If you have a webmaster tools account and have the domain added to that then you might get some clues from that.

      Stick to the guidelines and ensure your backlinks are good and your page will bounce back. The Google dance is a strange phenomenon but it happens. I believe it is a way for Google to test a page's analytics and visitor interaction with it for a while by artificially putting it high up in the rankings. After a while this dancing around will stabilize and your page will naturally fit into the SERPs based on your SEO and visitor analytics.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by netprofit4u View Post

      If your website is new (one year old or less), and you suddenly obtain a lot of backlinks (50 or more) to the same website page, then Google might think that you are buying backlinks, instead of creating them yourself...

      You can prevent Google from penalizing your website by pointing your backlinks to different pages of your website, instead of just the homepage...

      Additionally, to learn more about backlinks and other SEO techniques, you can use my Forum and Blog Directory to get more free help and professional advice...

      Take Care and Good Luck,
      Andre/Admin/NetProfitUpdateNews
      This post wins award for most nonsense of the day. (So far. The day is young.)

      Good answers abound here, Steve Crooks sums it up nicely, as some
      others.

      Relax, Amenda!

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author netprofit4u
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        This post wins award for most nonsense of the day. (So far. The day is young.)

        Good answers abound here, Steve Crooks sums it up nicely, as some
        others.

        Relax, Amenda!

        Paul
        Well Paul,

        I did not realize that you were giving out "nonsense awards" here at the Warrior Forum!! I am a new member here, and I was simply trying to be helpful to someone who asked a question about Google. I never claimed to be an SEO Specialist, so I answered the question to the best of my knowledge...

        As a matter of fact, I still don't believe that there is anything wrong with my answer, because I just recently read that on a reputable blog. However, I was under the impression that everyone (including you Paul, warrior senior member) should be helpful and not hurtful to everyone here on the Warrior forum or any other forum, especially a new member making his first post!!

        An apology would be appreciated, but I definitely won't expect it. I just think that your response to a post that was not even meant for you, was totally uncalled for. If you didn't think that my post was an honest attempt to be helpful, or if you thought that my post was wrong information, then you should have simply helped me and Amenda by posting the correct information...

        As I said above, I am no SEO Specialist, and I am always willing to learn more, if you do it in a respectful way. In other words according to the bible, do unto to others as you would have them do unto you. Also, according to my parents, if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all...

        Thank You,
        Andre (netprofit4u)
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by netprofit4u View Post

          Additionally, to learn more about backlinks and other SEO techniques, you can use my Forum and Blog Directory to get more free help and professional advice...
          Originally Posted by netprofit4u View Post

          . I never claimed to be an SEO Specialist, so I answered the question to the best of my knowledge...
          Yet, you recommended the OP visit your site to learn about "backlinks and other SEO techniques"? I think clearly you were holding yourself as someone with knowledge in the area.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Pure garbage.


      (1) Google won't penalize you for incoming links as it would be to easy for your competitors just to nail your site.

      (2) 50 backlinks is nothing

      (3) Google also frowns on "creating" backlinks yourself too. This goes against the whole purpose of counting backlinks (the "vote").

      (4) I love your self-promo to your forum and directory. I bet there's lots of good SEO information there with this sort of post:rolleyes:

      (5) this doesn't sound like a penalty

      (6) When experienced members of the forum with over 1000 posts are 5 for 5 thinking that what you said doesn't make a lot of sense, perhaps they are on to something.

      Originally Posted by netprofit4u View Post

      If your website is new (one year old or less), and you suddenly obtain a lot of backlinks (50 or more) to the same website page, then Google might think that you are buying backlinks, instead of creating them yourself...

      You can prevent Google from penalizing your website by pointing your backlinks to different pages of your website, instead of just the homepage...

      Additionally, to learn more about backlinks and other SEO techniques, you can use my Forum and Blog Directory to get more free help and professional advice...

      Take Care and Good Luck,
      Andre/Admin/NetProfitUpdateNews
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRetiredBuilder
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        (6) When experienced members of the forum with over 1000 posts are 5 for 5 thinking that what you said doesn't make a lot of sense, perhaps they are on to something.
        I really don't believe that a post count has much to do with anything in a lot of cases

        The only thing a high post count gives away is that someone spends too much time reading and participating in forums when more constructive things could be done with the time
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        • Profile picture of the author netprofit4u
          Originally Posted by TheRetiredBuilder View Post

          I really don't believe that a post count has much to do with anything in a lot of cases

          The only thing a high post count gives away is that someone spends too much time reading and participating in forums when more constructive things could be done with the time
          I agree wholeheartedly...
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      • Profile picture of the author netprofit4u
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        Pure garbage.

        Pure garbage?: First of all I don't understand why I am being attacked for simply trying to be helpful to someone who asked for our individual opinions about Google penalizing their website. Secondly, my previous response was to Paul because he is the one who originally attacked me. Now suddenly the "War Room" is coming out of the woodwork to start a war about absolutely nothing!! Is that why they call it the war room? This is just ridiculous, and it is not what I would have expected when I decided to join this forum instead of some other forums...

        (1) Google won't penalize you for incoming links as it would be to easy for your competitors just to nail your site.

        I am no SEO Specialist, are you? No, I don't think that you are. Therefore, I disagree with you that Google won't penalize you for certain backlinks. My understanding is that you can be penalized if your backlinks are not "natural" (coming from your own "natural" activity on the internet, including posting in forums, blogs, social networks, etc... Or, if they suspect that you are buying backlinks. Also, I believe that you can be penalized if most of your backlinks are not from websites similar (in the same industry) as your own...

        This is my opinion from reading a lot of reputable blog and forum posts. It is OK to respectfully disagree (agree to disagree), but it is not OK to start a "war" by being rude and disrespectful...

        (2) 50 backlinks is nothing

        I realize that "50 backlinks is nothing"
        , so that is why I initially said 50 or more backlinks. Actually, I think that 50 backlinks can be to much if they are obtained in a very short period of time by a new (not old) website...

        (3) Google also frowns on "creating" backlinks yourself too. This goes against the whole purpose of counting backlinks (the "vote").

        Again, I think that you are wrong here, because "creating" simply means that you are "naturally" participating with people of similar or like minds. You will "create" a backlink, whether you intended to or not, whenever you post on a blog, forum, social network, etc., and leave your website or blog address (URL)...

        P.S. Also, refer back to my answer to #1 above.

        (4) I love your self-promo to your forum and directory. I bet there's lots of good SEO information there with this sort of post:rolleyes:

        Why are you being a hater, man?
        What is your problem with me promoting my website just like YOU and everyone else?! I am promoting my website because I put a LOT of time and effort into putting it together, and I want everyone to know about it, and USE IT to help them be successful on the internet...

        There is a wealth of information on the website with all categories of business opportunity forums, blogs, social networks, videos, podcasts, magazines, radio, etc...

        By the way Tom, since you mentioned it, there is "lots of good SEO information there" and I never claimed that any of it was from me. There are a lot of good forums, blogs, articles, etc., listed there that you can easily and conveniently click a link, and read or get a professional opinion about anything related to earning an internet income, etc...

        As a matter of fact Tom,
        the backlink forum that YOU are promoting in your forum signature is also one of the forums that is already listed there on the SEO Forums page!!

        I first listed it there about six weeks ago. Therefore, it is to your advantage that I promote my website. Now, how ironic is that??...

        (5) this doesn't sound like a penalty

        I guess it depends on how Google describes what a penalty is...

        (6) When experienced members of the forum with over 1000 posts are 5 for 5 thinking that what you said doesn't make a lot of sense, perhaps they are on to something.

        How many forum posts you have means absolutely nothing to me when you come out of your "war room" and attack (ambush?) me for simply giving my opinion to someone (Amenda) who asked for it.

        Let me just end with this: You have to give respect to get respect, and it's not what you say, but how you say it...
        Thank You,
        Andre (netprofit4u)
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  • Profile picture of the author semeasy
    Honestly... Many of the responses here are correct. Just continue building your back links. I might not agree that article back links are the best way to go, but keep back linking...
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  • Profile picture of the author veronica178
    I don't think your site is being penalized. Check your webmaster tools for potential issues...if you really think Google looks at your site differently, check for possible spam injections on your ftp

    then submit a reinclusion request
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  • Profile picture of the author indchris
    don't panic. It may not be a penalty, probably a G dance as someone pointed out. Have you done anything to the site structure or the pages that were ranking well? That could be one of the reasons.
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