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Does anyone go after high competition?

by stoaf88
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I know everyone wants to do long tails and low competition. I have 25 sites myself targeting these terms.

I was wondering does anyone here go after harder competition?

Like if you check page 1 of google and find all sites at least PR1 or higher with aged domains, and hundreds and even thousands of backlinks.

I have gotten pretty good at ranking low to medium competition keywords, so Im thinking that ranking for high competition would be just as easy but just take longer.

I figure a site with 30 pages of solid content should be the start. Update once a week with 2 articles.

Backlink with scrapebox, article marketing robot, and have some xrumer blasts done every here and there.

Would this work for higher competition? I figure just do everything you normally do except more.
#competition #high
  • Profile picture of the author SEOArbiter
    Don’t target the obvious keywords. Those keywords are too competitive and will take longer to get better rankings. When doing your keyword research, don’t focus your efforts on keywords with high total searches per month. The majority of keywords with large searches per month aren’t necessarily buyers. Longer-tail keywords, or more specific phrases, often get less searches, but have higher conversions because the consumer tends to be looking for exactly what they are going to buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Would you go to the olympics shooting for Bronze? Go for gold. Same work, just more of it. What people fail to realize is that once you are optimized for short tail, you pick up a whole bunch of longtail along the way.
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Going after tough competition is the best way to learn, if you conquer a few big niches the worlds your oyster..
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    • Profile picture of the author stoaf88
      Originally Posted by theseoguys View Post

      Would you go to the olympics shooting for Bronze? Go for gold. Same work, just more of it. What people fail to realize is that once you are optimized for short tail, you pick up a whole bunch of longtail along the way.
      Thats exactly what I mean. I have some great EMD's that rank #1 in google and when I look at analytics I am getting traffic for longer tail and different keywords I never though of. Obviously my highest traffic is from what I targeted but you do rank for other words.

      So A more broad keyword, if you could get it to rank high for the main keyword, you will also rank high for tons of longtails. Especially if you do all the LSI and study the google wonderwheel, you could rank for TONS of great terms.

      The sites that I find ranking high when I'm doing research for longtails aren't even optimized for those terms.

      Anyway just thinking If I went with a broad term and totally built it out and just got massive amounts of good links of all kinds, maybe could build a $100 per day site from adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author seotrafficcrew
    A lot of sites out there don't even promote their sites that much. It's really pretty interesting when you look at some niches and see the number of backlinks. I'm not sure where I heard it, but someone once said " Do just 5-10% more than your competition, and you Win".
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    • Profile picture of the author awtprod
      Originally Posted by seotrafficcrew View Post

      A lot of sites out there don't even promote their sites that much. It's really pretty interesting when you look at some niches and see the number of backlinks. I'm not sure where I heard it, but someone once said " Do just 5-10% more than your competition, and you Win".
      Very true. The keywords that I'm going after are short tails, with high competition, but aren't usually targeted because they aren't "buyers" keywords. But getting traffic from them is useful for me. I know I can beat them, it's just a matter of getting the backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author COBSolutions
    Good question by OP.

    I also used to think the same way around 2 years back and decided to take the plunge.
    I registered a domain without even adding the keyword in it, then started going after placing content and backlinks, it was slow build up but steady, nothing major.

    Now after 2 years, my site is sitting pretty at 4th spot in google.com with 177,000,000 results as competition. My site is PR3 and all other sites on that page is PR4 or more and the first spotter is a PR6. I am trying my level best to get it to first spot, know what i have that feeling that i will get to it in about another 3 months time, it has been in spot 7 for 6 months in the beginning of the year then it moved up to spot 3 since last 2 months and i expect it to move up in another few more months. If this experiement works, then i can say for sure that it is difficult to rank but not impossible, now the whole point boils down to say how much one can persist with the efforts, two years is a long time, but then those rankings can mint you money (for the rest of your life, so worth the 2 year effort) and it is much easier to hold on to a position once you have it.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooljazz
      thats what i am testing now how hard is going for me to be on page 1 for my keyword. will publish once i hit my target..
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    • Profile picture of the author jtpada
      Originally Posted by cashisfilthitakecheck View Post

      Good question by OP.

      I also used to think the same way around 2 years back and decided to take the plunge.
      I registered a domain without even adding the keyword in it, then started going after placing content and backlinks, it was slow build up but steady, nothing major.

      Now after 2 years, my site is sitting pretty at 4th spot in google.com with 177,000,000 results as competition. My site is PR3 and all other sites on that page is PR4 or more and the first spotter is a PR6. I am trying my level best to get it to first spot, know what i have that feeling that i will get to it in about another 3 months time, it has been in spot 7 for 6 months in the beginning of the year then it moved up to spot 3 since last 2 months and i expect it to move up in another few more months. If this experiement works, then i can say for sure that it is difficult to rank but not impossible, now the whole point boils down to say how much one can persist with the efforts, two years is a long time, but then those rankings can mint you money (for the rest of your life, so worth the 2 year effort) and it is much easier to hold on to a position once you have it.

      Hey, thanks!! This is very informative and encouraging contribution! I wonder if many marketers do have this sort of patience. Surely puts things more into perspective for me
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      • Profile picture of the author COBSolutions
        Originally Posted by jtpada View Post

        Hey, thanks!! This is very informative and encouraging contribution! I wonder if many marketers do have this sort of patience. Surely puts things more into perspective for me
        Yes, that is a valid point
        I wonder if many marketers do have this sort of patience
        Everyone jumps into the internet money making bandwagon with a view to get rich quick, but here too it is like any normal business, you need to nurture and grow it over a period of time, have patience and it pays off and it pays well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nemanja
    I love high competitive search terms.
    You need to invest much more time and work but rewards are much greater and you will learn much more along the way.
    And it is not that hard as most people think it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author deloriagod
    One of the first websites I brought up was competing against 200,000,000 other websites. I've always had trouble getting into long tail keywords, I always stay too broad in order to keep the monthly searches up.
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