Can't get my Site out of - Google Sandbox!

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Alot of people will say that google sandbox doesn't exist but it does, I have been ranking with one of my site on the second page of google and thought that I should step it up a notch and started building massive amount of backlnks and guess what now, my site is gone and has been for more then a month I think.

I'm not ranking for the keyword I was at all, my site is no where to be found. It does show up when I type my url and other page of my site still rank for the keyword it was but not my main page. Recently I've made an ultimate change to my front page, have changed everything, template, meta tag etc. and even set new 301 redirect and just today google cached it but still it won't rank and won't show up for the keyword that I'm going after, any ideas and suggeestions? Seeking professional help and willing to pay. Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
    It does exist for sure, and building a massive amount of backlinks too quickly is the quickest way to get sandboxed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Just a Minion
    Add some quality back links, including lengthy and unique articles at major article directories that are contextually relevant.

    The issue is quality not quantity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
    Contact Google and submit a request for reconsideration. Tell them what you did, what you think you might have done, that you won't do it again. What have you got to lose? The processs is fair.
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    • Profile picture of the author Just a Minion
      Originally Posted by theseoguys View Post

      Contact Google and submit a request for reconsideration. Tell them what you did, what you think you might have done, that you won't do it again. What have you got to lose? The processs is fair.
      I believe the site has not been banned, unless I read it wrong. So a resubmit would not do anything except tell google you have been bad, and they may find other issues, so I would not go that route.

      An algorithm rankings drop cannot be fixed by someone at google looking at your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author miranon
    Originally Posted by levmonch View Post

    started building massive amount of backlnks...
    How many backlinks have you made before google slapped you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    First, you should check out the Google Webmaster Guidelines here.

    Then you should do a check on all of those backlinks you built, and try to eliminate the spammish ones.

    However, it's very rare that backlinking will harm your site. Worst case it will only be simply have no effect. In the old days, you could built a whole boatload of spam backlinks to your competitor's sites and wipe them off the front page, Google has fixed this bug so IMO, your backlinks didn't do it.

    You should also install the page spead addon for firefox, (recommende by google) to check the load time of your site and pages. If your site is slower than most sites, it can harm your rankings.

    So if that's the case, change your theme around and look for something with less 'scripting' going on. Also try hosting your images on your own domain, rather than using an external image URL to put images on your site.

    After you've made the changes you think might have caused your problem, you should do a search for your site, and in the search results click on 'cache' to see what your site looks like to Google last time they cached it.

    You should notice whether or not your 'cached' version of your site is the most recent, if it's not you should do some minor backlinking to get Googlebot back to your site to see the updates.

    If you still don't see results, you should sign up for a Google Webmaster's account here, and submit your website for reconsideration.

    If all else fails still...consult a professional or simply flip your site for a couple bucks and try again!

    Hope that helps ya!!
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    • Profile picture of the author sixplus
      In the past....Quality links...Beat quantity any day. Even with the changes Google still has quality control...well, sorta kinda.

      Anyway I agree try to cut out the spammy links!

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  • Profile picture of the author jimkirk1943
    Mate stop worrying.. Yes your site is out of the SERPs yes it was because you built a load of backlinks that triggered googles filters, I had a bodybuilding supplement site that was out the serps for about 10 weeks so dont be thinking your anything special because you`ve been out for a month !! And i had a adsense site out for about 6 weeks a month ago. you`ve just got to ride it out mate if you had 7/8 sites pulling nice cash in you wouldnt be checking this site every 6 hours like i was the first time my bodybuilding site went out the serps ! but now because i have other sites making money i dont worry when this happens like the adsense site last month of course i didnt want it but when it went i knew exactly what to do which was just carry on as normal adding backlinks a new article just treat it like its still there and wait !!
    It will be back but 10 weeks like my site isn`t out the ordinary i can tell you now !
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  • Profile picture of the author edc3076
    where do you get good qaulity backlinks, I have been trying linkvana but I am unsure if it is working, any tips on what is the best source for good backlinks, thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    Yea build them yourself.

    Web 2.0, articles, press releases etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author edc3076
      so have you found web 2.0 and press releases to be as good, or better than something like linkvana?

      Also when you are building web 2.0 properties with content, do you write one main article and then post that sam article all over the place or do you take a seed article and spin it and then submit that spun material to the different properties?

      also if you are going to spin content what % does it need to change to pass duplicate content filters?

      thanks in advance for any information
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    think about it this way first of all. If you go with linkvana, I believe you have to pay for that every month correct? If I'm wrong don't even read what I'm about to say

    If it doesn't work for you, and you cancel your account, all of your backlinks are gone. I'm not 100% sure how it works, but I'm pretty sure it's a network of sites that display backlinks only for members on an automated level. Meaning if you're no longer a member you're links will be worthless...since they dissappear after.

    But again, I could be wrong.

    Also, if it does work for you, but then you decide you don't want to pay for it anymore, you'll lose your rankings...

    That's why I'm not a big fan of backlink 'subscriptions' per say, I'd rather pay to have perminent links built.

    Livejournal.com, wetpaint.com, blogger.com, wordpress.com, squidoo.com, hubpages.com, buzzle.com, wikihow.com, wikipedia.com, just to name a few...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
      Originally Posted by friend View Post

      think about it this way first of all. If you go with linkvana, I believe you have to pay for that every month correct? If I'm wrong don't even read what I'm about to say

      If it doesn't work for you, and you cancel your account, all of your backlinks are gone. I'm not 100% sure how it works, but I'm pretty sure it's a network of sites that display backlinks only for members on an automated level. Meaning if you're no longer a member you're links will be worthless...since they dissappear after.

      But again, I could be wrong.

      Also, if it does work for you, but then you decide you don't want to pay for it anymore, you'll lose your rankings...

      That's why I'm not a big fan of backlink 'subscriptions' per say, I'd rather pay to have perminent links built.

      Livejournal.com, wetpaint.com, blogger.com, wordpress.com, squidoo.com, hubpages.com, buzzle.com, wikihow.com, wikipedia.com, just to name a few...
      You are wrong. Links built from link networks are permanent. They don't go back and delete all of the posts you've made with your links when you are no longer a member.

      There are link networks out there that will give you more bang for your buck than most traditional backlinks (web 2.0's, articles, etc.

      The network I am a member of gives me tons of great in content links that will be there as long as the network is around...whether I'm a member or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
        Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post

        You are wrong. Links built from link networks are permanent. They don't go back and delete all of the posts you've made with your links when you are no longer a member.

        The network I am a member of gives me tons of great in content links that will be there as long as the network is around...whether I'm a member or not.
        Good to know. Good thing I put "I could be wrong"

        What network are you a member of?
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      • Profile picture of the author edc3076
        what network are you with?
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      • Profile picture of the author edc3076
        Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post

        You are wrong. Links built from link networks are permanent. They don't go back and delete all of the posts you've made with your links when you are no longer a member.

        There are link networks out there that will give you more bang for your buck than most traditional backlinks (web 2.0's, articles, etc.

        The network I am a member of gives me tons of great in content links that will be there as long as the network is around...whether I'm a member or not.
        what network are you with?
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    • Profile picture of the author edc3076
      actually the more I think about it, you are right linkvana is a rippoff.

      One question when posting articles on web 2.0 pages can the content be the same or does it need to be changed and if so what % should each article be changed so you don't get hit for duplicate content?
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      • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
        Originally Posted by edc3076 View Post

        actually the more I think about it, you are right linkvana is a rippoff.

        One question when posting articles on web 2.0 pages can the content be the same or does it need to be changed and if so what % should each article be changed so you don't get hit for duplicate content?
        Well I personally never submit spun content...It might work but I personally don't do it.

        The only thing I'll ever do duplicate of, is press releases. Press releases are supposed to be syndicated.

        I recommend just completely rewriting your content if you want a quick article to post.

        It's just my opinion that Google's smart enough to detect 'spun' content these days. Again, could be wrong.
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        • Profile picture of the author edc3076
          Thank you for your insight it makes perfect sense
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  • Profile picture of the author seoforu
    Create a blog and write unique quality posts every day and bookmark it on leading social media websites.Submit some quality article on sites like ezine and goarticles with a link back to your site.You will get your site back soon!Enjoy the power of Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author luxl85
    I suggest you create a blog under your site and write article daily. Then post or ping your blog article. Do some permanent links like bookmark, link exchange and so on.
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    • Profile picture of the author edc3076
      Thanks for the help guys
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  • Profile picture of the author mikkosant
    Make sure to maintain your link velocity. If you just go out and throw thousands of links at your site in a couple days after not doing much to it for a little while, then that does look a little..off, unless the links keep coming in.

    Keep building links and use a variety too..Just don't stop the momentum.. I had a site once that disappeared for about 3 weeks only to find that it is now on page 1 for a competitive keyword...Don't let it worry you too much though.serps change all the time and I'm sure your site will come back to atleast where it was before, but in the meantime..try and and maintain velocity and also gather up some higher quality links too.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    make sure you have no dead links or pointing to bad neighborhoods. removing them pulled me out of a penalty one time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vusal
    Hey, don't worry, just be patient and wait 2-3 days - your website will come back.
    It will take about a month.
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    • Profile picture of the author edc3076
      I have a question a little of the subject but not. I want to setup a presentation for realtors and I am working with a title company that is willing to send out an email to 3500 realtors on their list. I dont just want to send a regular email, I want to record a message that plays when they open the email. I know their are programs for that any suggestions? thank you for any insight.
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  • Profile picture of the author ricky86
    You are in big trouble, it is the result of link spamming.
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    • Profile picture of the author edc3076
      Originally Posted by ricky86 View Post

      You are in big trouble, it is the result of link spamming.
      How do you know it was the result of link spamming?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vusal
    It has nothing to do with link spamming
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    • Profile picture of the author edc3076
      Originally Posted by Vusal View Post

      It has nothing to do with link spamming
      I agree how does he know that it was link spamming
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