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14 years ago

The profile spamming I for one don't appreciate on my forums. What about just seeking quality both in content and links? There are better ways your money can get you traffic and rankings.

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Owen Smith

14 years ago

I would recommend you restructure and remove any black hat areas and look for the lon term goal not the short term, otherwise you WILL crash and burn.

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RyanLeonard

14 years ago

Correct me if I'm wrong- but that seems like it's going to raise some red flags in the search engines. I hope your hosting can cover the traffic as well.

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Martin Brock 14 years ago

Google sandbox here you come - and stay!

I'd like to take a minute and personally thank you for being one of those delightful human beings who create over 6000 spam accounts on one of my community based websites every month.

I'm a bit surprised though. It seems you have the ability to construct sentences.

Did your daddy write this post for you?
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havaread

14 years ago

Good luck. Let us know when you get outta googleJail

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Andrew23

14 years ago

I actually doubt I will even get sandboxed. I just thought it was a nice thread name

. If guys can blast 100k forums per day with xrumer on a fresh domain, then I should be able to blast about 1,000-2,000 sites easily.

I really am not looking to get any search engine traffic. My site just isn't very keyword oriented. I do though, have a great product that needs to be seen. Doing this much link building will get my product out there. I will be selling beautiful web designs for only $2.

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- AFI 14 years ago
  
  I don't get the point of spamming forums. They only get deleted by the moderators.
  
  I love how some people like to turn this game into a "get rich quick" scheme by turning to tactics like these. Sure in the beginning you may get some sales but this isn't a quick race, this is a marathon. Slow and steady is the only way that you'll build something to last.
  
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  Tom Goodwin 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by AFI
  
  I don't get the point of spamming forums. They only get deleted by the moderators.
  
  Are you talking about forum posts or just forum profiles. If it is the latter, then you are wrong. Will some get deleted? Sure. But, there are a lot of fish in the sea.
  
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forsalecoza

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrew23

I actually doubt I will even get sandboxed. I just thought it was a nice thread name

. If guys can blast 100k forums per day with xrumer on a fresh domain, then I should be able to blast about 1,000-2,000 sites easily.....

And? What did happen?

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CatherineC

Banned 14 years ago

Since probably 90% of what WF considers "real" is actually "myth"...

And since the so-called gurus make money hand-over-fist by selling WSOs that pander to the paranoia and mass hysteria of these perpetuated myths...

Maybe you'll be fine.

Maybe...(runs back to WSO section out of fear and paranoia)

Jokes aside probably 75% of that list won't actually get achieved through the various software you're running it through due to sign-up issues, bugs, the usual glitches, etc. Which might be part of the plan?

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Vusal

14 years ago

Do all of them

how are you going to write those 300 articles?

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Tom Goodwin 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vusal

Do all of them how are you going to write those 300 articles?

My guess is the OP meant 1 article spun (?) to 300 article sites through AMR, rather than 300 articles sent to all of those sites.
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halfpoint

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrew23

I'm about to launch my site in a week and have loaded up on software. I have a good mix of white, grey and black hat. I am just going to absolutely blast my site with tons of backlinks in the first few days. Here is some info on my site:

Niche: Web design

Domain age: About 2 months (PR 0)

Monetization: Selling web designs through E-Junkie

Email list: Yes, I will be giving out a free web design when viewers subscribe to my newsletter.

Here is the monstrous list of techniques I will do the first day alone:

1. 300 Article Submissions (Through AMR)
2. Web 2.0 blast (Through SENuke)
3. 100 Directory Submissions (DirectoryBot)
4. 500 blog comments (Scrapebox)
5. 100 Search Engine Submissions (Through iBusiness Promoter)
6. 30 Blog Submissions (Free Traffic System)
7. 200 Emails to targeted viewers
8. 15,000 fan requests to Facebook page (Fiverr)
9. 500 Pligg submissions (Autopligg)
10. Follow 500 targeted people on Twitter (Tweet Attacks)
11. 400+ Profile links (SENuke)
12. 100+ social bookmarking submissions (SocialBot)
13. 100+ RSS submissions (RSSBot, Xgen SEO and SENuke)

It's time to play in the sandbox like I am a little kid again. After all, sandboxes are awesome!

The "Google Sandbox" is one of, if not the biggest myth in the IM world. Don't be worried about something that doesn't exist.

As for your links, they're all fine although, personally, most of the time I wouldn't bother with the directory/search engine submissions or the Facebook stuff.

Additionally, you should join a couple of the private blog networks and have your content distributed there. Build My Rank and Backlinks Solutions are two good ones.

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angel1987

14 years ago

That looks like a nice list, but i have a feeling that is not a good idea and do more spamming than good. If only it was not Auto submissions and genuine, that would have been good.

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Martin Brock 14 years ago

So, what's the official Warrior Forum policy on spam -- it's ok as long as it doesn't happen here?

We have a confirmed mass spammer here who clearly doesn't want to listen. Please help me understand why someone who is hell-bent on making life miserable for other people is free to share such mindless tactics in here?

The other day someone started a thread with an online marketing survey. Her thread was deleted with no explanation. But this - apparently - is perfectly fine, or?
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John Romaine

14 years ago

Oh boy, what a train wreck.

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dmadnani

14 years ago

Although you're completely aware of the possibility of being "sandboxed" you're still ready to put in a rather large amount of your effort on grey/black hat links? Doesn't seem quite sensible to me.

Alternatively, why don't you just double the efforts of your white hat techniques?

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Tom Goodwin

14 years ago

Originally Posted by dmadnani

Although you're completely aware of the possibility of being "sandboxed" you're still ready to put in a rather large amount of your effort on grey/black hat links? Doesn't seem quite sensible to me.?

Distributing articles on sites that publicly accept them is grey/black hat? WTH. What about sending your link to directories? My god, what's left. Building up a "nice" site and praying for backlinks? That just doesn't work in the real world.

I do agree that the test is just stupid. He isn't even trying to rank anything it appears. He is just doing because he wants to.

Originally Posted by dmadnani

Alternatively, why don't you just double the efforts of your white hat techniques?

Perhaps because he wants to rank sometime this decade? Unless perhaps you have a 7 figure advertising budget.

Again, what exactly is white hat? He included distribution of articles (on sites that accept them). I thought that would make all of you article guys as happy as a cop at a doughnut factory.

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Jacob Martus 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

Again, what exactly is white hat?
Tom

That depends on who you ask. For some, it's spamming articles to 100s of directories...whether the articles are any good at all.

For others, it's putting up content at places like Hubpages/Blogger where it's still against the ToS to put up content solely for promoting other websites.

And still for others, a few Diggs and a Tweet might work?
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dmadnani

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

Distributing articles on sites that publicly accept them is grey/black hat? WTH. What about sending your link to directories? My god, what's left. Building up a "nice" site and praying for backlinks? That just doesn't work in the real world.

I do agree that the test is just stupid. He isn't even trying to rank anything it appears. He is just doing because he wants to.

Perhaps because he wants to rank sometime this decade? Unless perhaps you have a 7 figure advertising budget.

Again, what exactly is white hat? He included distribution of articles (on sites that accept them). I thought that would make all of you article guys as happy as a cop at a doughnut factory.

Tom

I wasn't referring to his article marketing techniques, in fact I was referring to his other methods such as the profile linking and automated blog commenting.

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roadwarriorhawk

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Brock

So, what's the official Warrior Forum policy on spam -- it's ok as long as it doesn't happen here?

We have a confirmed mass spammer here who clearly doesn't want to listen. Please help me understand why someone who is hell-bent on making life miserable for other people is free to share such mindless tactics in here?

The other day someone started a thread with an online marketing survey. Her thread was deleted with no explanation. But this - apparently - is perfectly fine, or?

Miserable? A little OTT - at least I hope! Otherwise it's just sad that it would make you miserable.

I think this makes for a nice little experiement and look forward to hearing from the OP regarding the results! LOL!

The sandbox could be fun...you never know!

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thehobbster

14 years ago

That sounds like a wonderful plan if you took out any of the parts that are destructive to other people's work, such as forum posts. Profiles aren't really a big deal, unless the webmaster is anal. There is usually one button you can press to delete all profiles with zero posts (or any number you set).

Article directories, website directories, social bookmarking, RSS submissions, etc. All of that is fine. That's why they are there.

The only part that is missing is well thought out anchor texts you want to rank for.

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Anup Mahajan

14 years ago

I don't think your site would be sandboxed even if you went ahead with the plan. You must keep in mind that search engines take their sweet time for including backlinks. For example directory submissions, forum profiles can take weeks to be added. Plus sending email to followers, having Facebook fans or having tons of twitter followers do not contribute as much to the backlinks.

Just my 2 cent

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jazbo

14 years ago

I love the high attitudes on display here.

Do we shoot down the article spinners in the same way? Those buying PLR crap to post anywhere they can? Do we shoot down people with 1000 adsense sites? What about directory submissions, never done those just for links?

Nope, but mention profile links and people get all uppity.

As for sandbox. Good luck, you probably won't get in it unless you spam about ten thousand links a day. Even if you do get in it, just build links and watch it spring back out.

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sim22

13 years ago

Getting 1000's, even tens of thousands of links quickly doesn't get you in the sandbox.

You can have a site with just 2 or 3 links and you can still get sandboxed so links have nothing to so with it.

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