finding niches is SOOO difficult

I can relate. Finding exact keyword match domain names now days can be very difficult. But after a couple years of online marketing, it will become apparent that having keyword in a domain name is just not that important in the long run. Yes it is a big ranking factor but it is not the be all and end all of online marketing.
What you should be spending your time doing is finding niches that interest you and have good earning potential without ridiculous competition.

Though you wont rank first spot for the main niche terms in the first month or so, with a bit of persistence you can build a content rich site of value that will bring in hundreds of long tail visitors (that are more likley to convert anyway), not having an exact match domain will force you to build a build a better quality site that in the long run would out perform any low quality exact match domain site.

I find so many people getting way to caught up in finding the right domain that they never end up starting anything and when they do they slap on a few pages, get ranking for the domain keyword and move onto another site never having really made anything of value in the first one.

This is the online marketing of the past, google and other search engines now place a lot more emphasis on the quality and value of a site (amount and quality of the content) than the keywords in the domain.

thanks for replies..

it is so difficult to get started damn!

Here is where I call a big fat stinky pile of BS. Go tell everyone killing it on dating offers, weight loss offers, etc that there is no way to make money in those markets...

I would rather have a small piece of a big pie, than an entire tiny one, get what I'm saying? Besides, I don't understand why people run from competition, no matter how big the market is, someone has to be the leader and I see no reason for it not to be me/you.

I like to look at markets based on profitability, not on competition. If the money is there, so am I. Besides, entering large markets means you have room to move laterally, instead of having to start from scratch in a new market all the damn time you can leverage the assets you already have.

So, my advice summed up...when you are looking at your competition, look for a way to offer a unique selling proposition...the rest is just work.

There are still a lot of them out there but it's hard to find them or very time consuming for your method. You really need to get Market Samurai as it makes finding the niches so much easier and faster, then if you combine it with Micro Niche Finder it's even better.

is Microniche finder different from market samurai?

yes i have the same question

Millions of NEW searches are made every year in Google.

Difficult to find niches (or should we say "keywords") to dive in?

Give me a break.

The world is evolving every day. New stuff happening. New searches typed every day. People struggling to find a niche are just doing it the hard way.

Here's one example:

Why should people try to get onto Weight loss battle when they can have a (small BUT ongoing) blast in a small niche, let's say, your hometown? Or your holiday destination?

IM can be (and it IS) far more then all the niches you see splattered all over the place.

P.S.: Just a reminder:

Millions of NEW searches are made every year in Google.

It is a process which in the main part has nothing to do with paid tools.
Those tools are just there to help you automate the process. Niche research is a skill which you can learn. Once you master it, you will be spoiled for choice, believe me.
Look at: lulu.com/content/5970832

When people talk difficulty, they are really referring to the myth of an easy way to riches with some easy domain, niche, etc.

Never understood this. Either go big or go home.

Looks can be deceiving. Small does not mean easy. Large does not mean hard.

Don't be afraid of hard work. You'll need it either way.

Paul

I really have no clue why people still choose to do things manually..

I can find 100's of exact match domains everyday without blinking an eye.

have you tried hittail .com?

I thought you could add another word onto a domain but it still get ranked for keywords i.e. instead of www.kitchenappliances.com this instead> www.kitchenappliciances-online.com

Find good niches within that parameters is actually very easy and very fast if you are equipped with the right tool.

Look around, there are many good keyword tools around which save you time and money by automating these manual task effectively.

Your time should be spent on digesting information rather than actually mining it.

It's really not that difficult... just make a bunch of sites in different niches and see which one takes off, then build out from there.

It's not that difficult...you need to think .....brainwash would help!!

There is definitely a fast way to find exact match domains... I just have not found it yet.

There are loads of niches that the SEO crowd haven't done much with, you just need better tools for finding them. Try The Keyword Academy or something - the Niche Refinery is brilliant.

Most of my best niches have been things I've already known about, but a quick go of the Niche Refinery allows me to confirm whether the niche is worth writing about.

Don't give up hope just yet, there are still niches popping up all the time, jus wait a while and something will popup, who knows if the next Twitter or Facebook site will produce a ton of niches to play with

Have you thought about finding a niche based on an up and coming trend??

For instance, I regularly check gaming sites, film sites, tech sites etc to see what the next big thing is going to be... and then produce a blog or forum based on the exciting subjects I find... and if you act fast enough you can often get some great keyword based domains... Like CallofDutyTips.com or IpadHelp.com ... then add Adsence to your blog or forum and spend some time finding related affiliate programs and CPA offers. Works like a treat!

Hi
I was reading this entire post for last 20 mins. Offcourse I was looking for something else but after having landed on this post, I could not reist putting in my comments too.

I have been in the SEO business for years. There is no keyword that I think that I can't attain. Just to add to it, there is not less of hard work either.

What I am trying to say is, what ever neiche you get into, there is bound to be hard work.

And if you run away from it, I am sorry you are just in the wrong business.
Forget what marketers tell you on "how to make money online in 24 hrs" and blah blah. Let me brain wash you to the fact that there is no easy way doing it.

Many would say list building is the fastest way to make money. Well
Yes and No.

If you build a list, what would you offer to them - just some affiliate program or some good free stuff. If your motto is not to keep them active and keep them live, I am sorry you will fail again. And to keep them active and live there is more of a hard work finding valuable stuff for your subscribers/readers.

As far as SEO is concerned, it would be nice to just do a simple search for traffic and analysis in google adwords keyword tool suggestion;

https://adwords.google.com/o/Targeti...AS#search.none

Step 1 Target your keywords and country - i.e which country do you want to focus (you will be surprised to know that there are some countries that have good traffic and payouts in adsense and cpa than US alone.) Search for your niche, I would recommend something of your domain knowledge or interest and I am sure it won't be just 1

Step 2: When you do a basic research of keywords look for 2 good things -
a) Traffic
b) Trends.
Look for trends that are rising. Maybe some spikes too.
Looking at these keywords and studying them carefully will give you a rough analysis, not exact. Don't waste your time looking for EXACT keywords. There is no such thing as EXACT PROFITABLE, ADSESNED, MONEY keywords. It is just an estimate.

Don't worry about traffic or competition they are always achievable. There is too much of traffic on the www. As they say "plenty of fish".

Even if you spent 2 hrs everyday in your online and offline optimization, I promise you good amount of traffic and SERP's in a matter of 3 months on the maximum side.

Step 3: Focus on Content and giveaways (autoblog, auto content alone won't help) You need something of value to be added. Unless you learn to give something of value to your visitors you won't get anything back. (act like a visitor/customer to your own website and see what's missing)

Step4: Don't loose hope and keep at it. It does not make much difference with dashed domains. Every minute you loose not doing it is the money lost. Research before hand is a good idea, but over research will only divert your focus.

Every tool almost derives its value / numbers from Search Engines. Why not try understanding how search engines do the math.
Don't over depend on tools.

I have found that using my brains first (by surveying the market: dissecting authority sites) and then searching for EMDs using keyword tools is a far better approach.

The problem is, if you find something (new keywords) that you don't know about, it is hard. This is even harder when the keyword tool throws a bunch of synonyms, tier 1, tier 2 , tier 3 related keywords at you.

Matt Cutts indeed gave a good advice here: design your site based on serving people, not the search engines.

This is also why having passion for a niche is important. When you have passion for something, you already have the expertise in a niche. You (will) know all about (and thus all the possible keywords) your niche.

It also helps a LOT to think in terms of niche instead of keywords (based on stats alone).

EMDs are still out there.

I think you are trying to hard and too technical ...

Many times a niche is exactly in front of your nose, something you are doing daily, have a passion for and/or are good at.

Agreed, identifying it, package it together to share and ADD VALUE to others, it's the difficult part.

Maybe the other way around would be better? Get the idea first and then look into technicalities, SEO etc.

Just some thoughts ...