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I read somewhere that google stated that they are gonna treat .co (Columbia) domains just as general .com/net/org domains. Meaning they should rank in google.com as easy as the general TLDs for worldwide searches not just local ones.

Well i grabbed one and gave it a try (3 months now), it's no where to be found in the first 1000 for the main phrase, which is an exact match domain as well.
So seems to me, that this is not true.
If you managed to get results with this please do share
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by Fking View Post

    Well i grabbed one and gave it a try (3 months now), it's no where to be found in the first 1000 for the main phrase, which is an exact match domain as well.
    Just because you have an exact match doesn't necessarily mean that you'll rank for the keyword. This idea is sold by a lot of people but it isn't the whole picture. You need authority links to your site or it will be beaten by competitors who do have them. The more competitive the niche, the more authority you'll need to rank.

    Another thing to consider is that the domain is new. Unless a new domain gets authority links relatively quickly it will fluctuate in results, mostly downward, as Google's algorithms score it over time.
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    • Profile picture of the author deloriagod
      Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

      Just because you have an exact match doesn't necessarily mean that you'll rank for the keyword. This idea is sold by a lot of people but it isn't the whole picture. You need authority links to your site or it will be beaten by competitors who do have them. The more competitive the niche, the more authority you'll need to rank.
      I couldn't agree more. For work, I work with an number of domains that don't have the keywords in the domain and they're ranking pretty well. And then I've had personal domains with my exact keywords in them that I had a hell of a time trying to get to rank well. I have to say, I feel like a lot more depends on the competition of your target keywords and building high quality links (and of course your on page SEO). Exact match domains are just a little boost, they're not some divine miracle to bring amazing rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author shauryas
    you need to work hard for links and do some directory submission.
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  • Profile picture of the author mayorlan
    Originally Posted by Fking View Post

    I read somewhere that google stated that they are gonna treat .co (Columbia) domains just as general .com/net/org domains. Meaning they should rank in google.com as easy as the general TLDs for worldwide searches not just local ones.

    Well i grabbed one and gave it a try (3 months now), it's no where to be found in the first 1000 for the main phrase, which is an exact match domain as well.
    So seems to me, that this is not true.
    If you managed to get results with this please do share
    You didn't say if you optimized the domain for SE and any backlinking.I had this type of domain before even with backlinks,they are just useless to me(3 .co.cc sites).I have to neglect them later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Natlex
    the keyword woudl have to be incredibly competitive for an exact match domain not to be in the top 1000 after 3 months... I almost always say an EMD in the top 100 within a week or two and top 20 by the end of the first month.
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  • Profile picture of the author sluxento
    It doesn't metter much what you need is backlinks and hundreds of them, quality backlinks..
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  • Profile picture of the author Fking
    when i said i've been working on it for 3 months, i meant mostly link building
    it does have links, all quality ones

    usually as stated above, with EMD like that and that kind of links i'll be in top 50 at the worst case.
    Right now im not in the top 1000, so there is something.
    Actually most of my EMD start from 200-300 position after being indexed and no or almost no links.

    Did someone manage to get a .co on first page of google.com at all?
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  • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
    I'm on page 3 with a .co so far. I haven't applied any serious seo effort to it yet - I was seeing where it would naturally appear - so I would expect it to be on page one as soon as I make an effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fking
      Originally Posted by IndigoJack View Post

      I'm on page 3 with a .co so far. I haven't applied any serious seo effort to it yet - I was seeing where it would naturally appear - so I would expect it to be on page one as soon as I make an effort.
      damn, very good
      that's the info i was looking for

      How many results for the phrase and how tough is the page 1 competition? Do you have an EMD for that phrase?
      And how long since registering to page 3?
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      • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
        Originally Posted by Fking View Post

        damn, very good
        that's the info i was looking for

        How many results for the phrase and how tough is the page 1 competition? Do you have an EMD for that phrase?
        And how long since registering to page 3?

        The competition is tough - the domain has been purchased/owned in every other format for a very long time (years/decades) so I leapt on the chance to secure the .co version when it was released a few months ago.

        7 million results for the domain word worldwide. A million results for the UK alone.

        I'm pretty positive about it's chances of getting to page one because the competition don't appear to be using much in the way of SEO trickery to achieve their position.
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  • Profile picture of the author usearchme2
    Ive purchased a .co domain too, I spoke with a guy at go daddy who said these domains have been v popular, i will be trying to rank it over the coming months, I was told they are a top level domain too, so could be a steal if people purchase them now.

    Woc
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    I'd stay away from .co domains. Reasons for it are because of what is going on with the .ly domains currently. Reasons for it are because the vast majority of us do not know Colombian law.

    Libya seized vb.ly for violating Libyan law. For those that don't know, vb.ly was a URL shortening service. Apparently one of the users uploaded a sexually oriented picture's URL to be shortened, and this is what violated Libyan law.
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    • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
      Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

      I'd stay away from .co domains. Reasons for it are because of what is going on with the .ly domains currently. Reasons for it are because the vast majority of us do not know Colombian law.

      Libya seized vb.ly for violating Libyan law. For those that don't know, vb.ly was a URL shortening service. Apparently one of the users uploaded a sexually oriented picture's URL to be shortened, and this is what violated Libyan law.

      Eh? :confused:

      Can you expand on this please because I haven't got a scooby what you're driving at?
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  • Profile picture of the author biggame5
    EMD? I AM CONFUSED WHAT IS THAT?
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    • Profile picture of the author Fking
      Originally Posted by biggame5 View Post

      EMD? I AM CONFUSED WHAT IS THAT?
      Exact Match Domain
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  • Profile picture of the author trooperbill
    .co is NOT columbia. when you add them into GWT it lets you specify what country to target, this means its a TLD non geographic and not fixed to any country like .co.uk

    and for the record they act exactly the same as any other domain, google doesnt have a preference.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fking
      Originally Posted by trooperbill View Post

      .co is NOT columbia. when you add them into GWT it lets you specify what country to target, this means its a TLD non geographic and not fixed to any country like .co.uk

      and for the record they act exactly the same as any other domain, google doesnt have a preference.
      yeah that's the theory and what made me try as well
      Sometimes though it's different on practice, that's why is the thread.
      I want people sharing their personal experience. the theory we all know
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
        Hi guys,

        The whole .co domain thing is also bothering me.

        I have .coms, .co.uks, .orgs and .nets at the # 1 position in Google for exact search niches of over 10,000 pm.

        I spent about £2,000 on .cos and picked up some pretty awesome domains.

        Over the last couple of months I have SEOed the heck out of two .co domains in particular.

        We're talking 10 -15 unique articles a week (on each site), whilst incrementally building high PR back links as well as the usual on-site optimisation.

        I've pretty much followed EXACTLY the same SEO blueprint as before.....and the result:-

        Two months ago, both sites entered Google at page 24 and page 25 respectively.

        Today they sit at page 24 and page 25 respectively. Or to put that another way, they haven't moved one bit, even with the Google dance.

        To conclude, I think Google isn't treating .co domains with the same authority as .com, .co.uk, .org and .net. I REALLY hope this changes soon or I just buy up a couple of 'near exact keyword'.coms and do a re-direct on the .co domains.

        I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has experienced the same.

        Cheers,
        Martin
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        • Profile picture of the author Fking
          Originally Posted by Martin N Smith View Post

          Hi guys,

          The whole .co domain thing is also bothering me.

          I have .coms, .co.uks, .orgs and .nets at the # 1 position in Google for exact search niches of over 10,000 pm.

          I spent about £2,000 on .cos and picked up some pretty awesome domains.

          Over the last couple of months I have SEOed the heck out of two .co domains in particular.

          We're talking 10 -15 unique articles a week (on each site), whilst incrementally building high PR back links as well as the usual on-site optimisation.

          I've pretty much followed EXACTLY the same SEO blueprint as before.....and the result:-

          Two months ago, both sites entered Google at page 24 and page 25 respectively.

          Today they sit at page 24 and page 25 respectively. Or to put that another way, they haven't moved one bit, even with the Google dance.

          To conclude, I think Google isn't treating .co domains with the same authority as .com, .co.uk, .org and .net. I REALLY hope this changes soon or I just buy up a couple of 'near exact keyword'.coms and do a re-direct on the .co domains.

          I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has experienced the same.

          Cheers,
          Martin

          Have you added them in google webmaster tools and set the geo locaiton to USA?
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          • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
            oh yes

            That was one of the first things I did two months ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
      Originally Posted by trooperbill View Post

      .co is NOT columbia. when you add them into GWT it lets you specify what country to target, this means its a TLD non geographic and not fixed to any country like .co.uk

      and for the record they act exactly the same as any other domain, google doesnt have a preference.
      ROFL, so now the .co extension isn't for Colombia?

      .co - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    • Profile picture of the author WealthWithin
      Originally Posted by trooperbill View Post

      .co is NOT columbia. when you add them into GWT it lets you specify what country to target, this means its a TLD non geographic and not fixed to any country like .co.uk

      and for the record they act exactly the same as any other domain, google doesnt have a preference.
      You can set the geo-target of .co domains to any country.

      But by definition .co domains are not TLDs. It is still the country code of Columbia.
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  • Profile picture of the author usearchme2
    Hi guys

    Think they did used to be columbian domains beforehand though, when i spoke to the godaddy bloke he said they were being used as .company domains now though. And they are a top level domain now !

    Woc
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  • Profile picture of the author Fking
    ok so that makes it pretty much official then
    .co is not treated the same way as .com
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
      I'm afraid not mate no. I'll continue to keep you posted (if you could do the same for me that would be great). I'll give it until Christmas and then do a simple re-direct (to a .com or .org) if these domains continue to stay static in the SERPS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fking
    thank you, i sure will do the same
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  • Profile picture of the author IndigoJack
    Update: Well something weird has happened to my .co now - since I started to actively promote it.

    All was progressing logically until today:

    Search for domain word - zero results - both World & UK
    domain word+keyword - top of page 3 - in World search - nowhere to be found in UK search?
    domain word+2 keywords - page 1 #1 - in World search - nowhere to be found in UK search?

    I DO want to be available worldwide so at least that's working but its a bit odd that I'm invisible on my home patch of the UK.
    Up until yesterday World and UK results were almost the same.

    Anyone notice anything similar?
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
      Originally Posted by IndigoJack View Post

      Update: Well something weird has happened to my .co now - since I started to actively promote it.

      All was progressing logically until today:

      Search for domain word - zero results - both World & UK
      domain word+keyword - top of page 3 - in World search - nowhere to be found in UK search?
      domain word+2 keywords - page 1 #1 - in World search - nowhere to be found in UK search?

      I DO want to be available worldwide so at least that's working but its a bit odd that I'm invisible on my home patch of the UK.
      Up until yesterday World and UK results were almost the same.

      Anyone notice anything similar?
      Interesting stuff. Both my .co domains are still stuck at 25 & 26 in Google.com respectively. Like you, even though i'm targeting the UK (and before anyone asks, YES I have set my geo-targeting to the UK), neither sites are showing in Google UK.

      To be honest, it's was worth a punt on these .co domains but i've decided to cut my losses and do a simple re-direct from both.

      Even though they are an EXACT MATCH for the keywords i'm targeting, I'm putting the sites on:

      1. mykeword4u.com
      2. my-keyword.com

      I'll keep you posted with my progress. I anticipate a jump as soon as Google notices the move from a (totally sh1te) .co to a credible .com.

      Cheers,
      Martin
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  • Profile picture of the author aulia
    I guess .co domain will only work to dominate Columbia Serps

    very hard to rank it globally
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    • Profile picture of the author kazlas
      Well, I am ranking 3rd for a pretty competitive keyword with co.cc domain (which is practically a subdomain). I've started out in page 8th. People, don't blame a domain if you can't rank, you just have to build more links, write some articles and stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin N Smith
        Originally Posted by kazlas View Post

        Well, I am ranking 3rd for a pretty competitive keyword with co.cc domain (which is practically a subdomain). I've started out in page 8th. People, don't blame a domain if you can't rank, you just have to build more links, write some articles and stuff.
        I don't wish to sound like a d1ckhead, but I make over $30,000 a month (from search traffic only) so I DO know how to rank for highly competitive keywords.

        Everything I've done has been to the SEO letter with these sites. The flaw in my strategy is the .co domain. If you've gone in at # 8 I'd question the competitiveness of the KW you're targeting.
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        • Profile picture of the author kazlas
          Originally Posted by Martin N Smith View Post

          I don't wish to sound like a d1ckhead, but I make over $30,000 a month (from search traffic only) so I DO know how to rank for highly competitive keywords.

          Everything I've done has been to the SEO letter with these sites. The flaw in my strategy is the .co domain. If you've gone in at # 8 I'd question the competitiveness of the KW you're targeting.
          Well, I just wanted to say that you CAN rank with these types of domain names if you put enough effort. Of course, it may not scale as good as .coms but if you have no money then it's a pretty good point to start.

          And by the way, I've gone not at #8 POSITION but I was at PAGE #8.
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