by Tum
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Hi Warriors,
Just bin searching for the forums about this but cant find anything.

The Page Rank of a domain:

Once its gone up to lets say, Page Rank 3, Can it go down again, if its not properly looked after ? Or is it fairly safe to stay at that rank ?

Just asking, cause was wondering what happens if you buy an aged domain, with a page rank of fairly high, how long the rank would stay high for ? or whether it would just drop back to 0 if the content is not as good as what the domain was used for before.

Thanks

Tum
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    It should stay pretty stable but it can go down by 1 or so mine went down a notch last update which was a while ago not sure why. Google is a weird creature sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    It can go down to zero if all the links to your site vanish.....
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    • Profile picture of the author jeannemk
      I think google can give a quick quote with that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Julie M
        Your page rank can fluctuate every time Google updates it's page rank - timing varies but about every 3 months give or take.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    When was the last time Page Rank was updated? It seems like it's been over 6 months.
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  • Profile picture of the author balilong
    thats why I don't mind PR status at the moment since I get dramatical downfalls from PR 3 to PR 0. But I checked and reviewed what I have been doing all and I think I was doing fine. Google sometimes acts like a weirdo search engine.
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    • Profile picture of the author threenine
      Originally Posted by balilong View Post

      Google sometimes acts like a weirdo search engine.
      Lol, aint that the truth.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    Originally Posted by Tum View Post

    Hi Warriors,
    Just bin searching for the forums about this but cant find anything.

    The Page Rank of a domain:

    Once its gone up to lets say, Page Rank 3, Can it go down again, if its not properly looked after ? Or is it fairly safe to stay at that rank ?

    Just asking, cause was wondering what happens if you buy an aged domain, with a page rank of fairly high, how long the rank would stay high for ? or whether it would just drop back to 0 if the content is not as good as what the domain was used for before.

    Thanks

    Tum
    It will go down if it's not looked after. I used to have a PR 5 blog (from the days when PR was easier to get) and now it is PR 1 because I let it slip. Even though it was PR 5, it never converted well.
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  • Profile picture of the author reapr
    It can go down. One thing you have to be careful about is 'fake PR' it happens more than people would like to believe like when new or aged domains are being sold/traded on PR alone. There are tools out there to check that.
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    • Profile picture of the author balilong
      Originally Posted by reapr View Post

      It can go down. One thing you have to be careful about is 'fake PR' it happens more than people would like to believe like when new or aged domains are being sold/traded on PR alone. There are tools out there to check that.
      so prchecker.info is not accurate in giving pR ranks? this is what I have been using for quite a long time.. what other alternative tools to be used regarding checking pr ranks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Originally Posted by Tum View Post

    an aged domain, with a page rank of fairly high, how long the rank would stay high for ? or whether it would just drop back to 0 if the content is not as good as what the domain was used for before.
    I see a glaring problem here. If you bought one of my old domain names, which had a blog on it before, and all the external links were coming to old posts, unless you rebuild my exact site structure those incoming links are gone. They no longer point to active pages.

    Since the links die, so does the PR flowing into your site. If those incoming links are pointing to the home page, then you may have a chance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tum
      Is it these aged domain that places like blogging underground uses to create these announcement blogs, that they call them ?

      You could have a basic blog, with loads of catagories, where people who want backlinks, can post into the corresponding catagory, with a snippet of about 1 or 2 paragraphs describeing there blog, with there main keywords in, and a link or 2 to there blog !

      Wouldn't something like this done with quite a few cheap age domains setup a sort of network, to post links to many sites, using the pr rating of the aged domain, before it dropped down ?
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  • Profile picture of the author patJ
    PR is good for nothing. Who checks it nowadays anyway?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by patJ View Post

      Who checks it nowadays anyway?
      Google's algorithms, for a start: it's one of the many factors that determine where your site gets listed in the SERP's. (According to Google).
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      • Profile picture of the author patJ
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Google's algorithms, for a start: it's one of the many factors that determine where your site gets listed in the SERP's. (According to Google).
        That, i'm afraid, is a myth.

        Originally Posted by Barry Unruh

        I never check it on my own site, but I sure check it for the sites I'm building links from. Give me a choice between a few high PR sites and 20 PR0 sites for backlinks and I'll always take the high PR ones.
        PR can be a good indicator that a site has a lot of trust. But it is not what determines the weight of the backlink.
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        • Profile picture of the author cindybidar
          Originally Posted by patJ View Post

          That, i'm afraid, is a myth.
          Funny, that's not what Google says:
          As Larry said long ago, we want to give you back "exactly what you want." When Google was founded, one key innovation was PageRank, a technology that determined the "importance" of a webpage by looking at what other pages link to it, as well as other data. Today we use more than 200 signals, including PageRank, to order websites, and we update these algorithms on a weekly basis.
          You can read the whole thing here: Corporate Information - Technology Overview
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          • Profile picture of the author patJ
            Originally Posted by cindybidar View Post

            Funny, that's not what Google says:


            You can read the whole thing here: Corporate Information - Technology Overview
            Yes, that is what they say. Google says a lot. However, if you have done any advanced SEO you know that is really just a myth. If PR has any importance it is so little that it can be disregarded. I have discussed this so many times, so if you want more information you can google it and read more.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
          PR can be a good indicator that a site has a lot of trust. But it is not what determines the weight of the backlink.
          I understand that there may be factors that will make the backlinks less valuable or even detrimental (i.e. bad neighborhoods).

          but, in your opinion, what does determine the weight of a backlink if it is not PR?
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    • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
      Originally Posted by patJ View Post

      PR is good for nothing. Who checks it nowadays anyway?
      I never check it on my own site, but I sure check it for the sites I'm building links from. Give me a choice between a few high PR sites and 20 PR0 sites for backlinks and I'll always take the high PR ones.

      Quality, not quantity, wins many battles.
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  • Just launched a new website for the company I work for and had to get our domain pointed to our new site. Fortunately my pagerank stayed the same as it was before the pointing occurred. Now time to work on getting this site ranked up!
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  • Profile picture of the author googlepage1
    depends upon the algo change, if the existing backlinks you have become "useless" as per respect of latest update then your PR will surely get down.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Originally Posted by Tum View Post

    The Page Rank of a domain:
    No such thing. PR refers to a page.

    Generally when people talk about the PR of a domain, they really mean the PR of the homepage.
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  • It is definitely possible to lose page rank. Page rank is basically a score for your page. Remember, it is based on each page, not domain. So each webpage in your domain will have its own rank, based on how well optimized it is, and how many good backlinks it has.
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