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Different IPs and SEO. What's up with that?

by Rick Diculous
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I just read on an other webmaster forum that

Almost all of the blogs are hosted on the same IP, and they all link to each other.


Dedicated IP's for SEO is a ****ing MYTH...

...The SEO IP myth was created by hosting companies as a way to pad their pockets


What to think now? I'm paying $20 extra a month for 20 unique IPs for my blog network

What do you guys think?
#ips #seo
  • Profile picture of the author JustinBrooke
    The IP issue more concerns people doing super spammy
    stuff like have 3,000 sites on the same IP.

    It's common for webmasters to have 10, 20, maybe even 50
    websites on the same IP.

    It's def. not as big of a deal as people make it out to be
    same with duplicate content, nofollow, and pagerank.

    SEO = relevance, popularity, and activity

    Forget about the tricks and the science and just give Google
    what they want.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Hi Rick,

      There is no real SEO benefit in having unique IPs.

      The reason folks purchase unique IPs is so that they can practice techniques that are likely to get them banned and they can hide their identity so that not all websites are banned at once. If you are practicing white hat techniques there is no need to hide your identity. Google will treat your unique IPs in exactly the same way they treat pages on the same IP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    It's pretty simple.

    Put up a new site, go after a semi-competitive keyword, and get only backlinks from the same IP. Report back when you are number one :-0

    IMHO, It's just silly to think that backlinks from the same IP are going to be as powerful as backlinks from different IPs.

    If you aren't interlinking sites you own, then of course, then yes, you wouldn't need different IPs for SEO purposes. It won't help you individual sites rank any better in Google. But, for those that do like to own a lot of domains, interlink them, and even buy PR domains, then go ahead and put them all on the same IP and see where that gets you.


    As for the whitehat comment by dburk, it is crazy to think that Google gets to dictate what is whitehat and what is not. It doesn't make any sense that what one legally does on his or her own sites could have some sort of colored hat associated with that activity. Last time I checked Google didn't own my domains. I'm of course willing to sell them to Google for the right price, and then they can label them anything they want.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Diculous
    Some other sites won't do A-B-C trades if all your sites are on the same IP or even same C class
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  • Profile picture of the author deoro
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    My site got a backlink from 20 same IP website. As long as not all your backlinks is from those same IP site its ok.

    Example you have backlinks from 20 same ip sites but you also have backlinks from 100 different ip sites then its ok.
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    In the end the conclusion of your rankings is in your high quality content.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOExpert999
    It only works for different domains and backlink mini-site hub. Like Tom Goodwin said eariler. But it can get your SEO Ranking up if you know what you are doing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Diculous
    I don't plan on only linking my sites with each other, but as of now, I was not doing it.

    I see alot of people claiming that their network has more value since all the sites are on diiferent IPs. And they think that getting links from 2 different sites on the same IP is like getting only 1 link.

    All my blogs are handwritten on their own domains and get frequent updates, so, I shouldn't have to worry.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      It's pretty simple.

      Put up a new site, go after a semi-competitive keyword, and get only backlinks from the same IP. Report back when you are number one :-0

      IMHO, It's just silly to think that backlinks from the same IP are going to be as powerful as backlinks from different IPs.

      If you aren't interlinking sites you own, then of course, then yes, you wouldn't need different IPs for SEO purposes. It won't help you individual sites rank any better in Google. But, for those that do like to own a lot of domains, interlink them, and even buy PR domains, then go ahead and put them all on the same IP and see where that gets you.
      Hi Tom,

      Google's algorithm doesn't rely on IP diversity, nor domain diversity for that matter, when it comes to backlink value. Tom, you're a smart guy, I recommend that you read and study the papers published by Google's founders to gain insight into how Google's PageRank formula actually works.

      The PageRank formula completely negates the necessity to look at IP or domain diversity. What you do on your own network of blogs, domains or individual website works essentially the same regardless of IPs or domain names.

      Yes, you do benefit from a diverse universe of backlinks, but it has nothing to do with IP addresses nor domain names, it's all about how many different ways someone can find your website.

      The anti-spamdexing team at Google uses tools to track down low quality spam and they follow the footprints wherever they go. Perhaps they follow spam from the the same IP as a priority, but I think at best it would only buy you a day or two before your pages are devalued anyway. It seems this would only benefit super aggressive spamming campaigns, and only at the margins.

      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      As for the whitehat comment by dburk, it is crazy to think that Google gets to dictate what is whitehat and what is not. It doesn't make any sense that what one legally does on his or her own sites could have some sort of colored hat associated with that activity. Last time I checked Google didn't own my domains. I'm of course willing to sell them to Google for the right price, and then they can label them anything they want.
      I don't think Google uses the term white hat in any official capacity, it's a term used by insiders in the SEO industry. I've never seen evidence that they have tried to "dictate what is whitehat and what is not", that's something we do.

      Google doesn't dictate what you do on your own sites. They do define the rules for what goes into their sites, the ones they own. I think it only fair that we not try to dictate what they can do on their own sites. They define the rules for their index and that is how it should be in my opinion.



      Originally Posted by Rick Diculous View Post

      I see alot of people claiming that their network has more value since all the sites are on diiferent IPs. And they think that getting links from 2 different sites on the same IP is like getting only 1 link.
      I guess if folks bought into that theory then they must think that internal link structure is not important either since all those links are on the same IP. I have never seen any evidence that supports that assertion and lots of evidence that disproves it. But hey, I bet it sold a lot of e-book courses. I would file that information in the same place that you put your wacky conspiracy theories and cargo cult science.
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