Yet another google change....

AsSeenOnPC

13 years ago

reducing click through rates for spammers!

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paulgl

13 years ago

I don't know how the term spammers changed to mean webmasters.
But I digress.

How on earth is a person going to know who is a spammer by looking at
a thumbnail of a webpage???? Because my preview looks good I must
not be a spammer? Because my preview is bad, I am one?

I don't get it.

Once again, people take a google tweak and go off on a tangent about how
the world is changing.

Relax. It's not.

Just shows the power google has over folks. Like a hypnotist....

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Amber Jalink

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

I don't know how the term spammers changed to mean webmasters.
But I digress.

How on earth is a person going to know who is a spammer by looking at
a thumbnail of a webpage???? Because my preview looks good I must
not be a spammer? Because my preview is bad, I am one?

I don't get it.

Once again, people take a google tweak and go off on a tangent about how
the world is changing.

Relax. It's not.

Just shows the power google has over folks. Like a hypnotist....

Paul

Well, I mean "spammers" by those who go beyond good SEO and try to cheat to get to the top. (You know, when something good comes along - people abuse it?)

Not in a tangent... just thought I'd point it out and see what others thought.

Frankly G ISN'T my first "go to" for searching. One of my offline clients brought it to my attention.

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gittar1122 13 years ago

How can Google reduce click through rates for "Spammers"???

Originally Posted by AsSeenOnPC

reducing click through rates for spammers!
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- paulgl 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by gittar1122
  
  How can Google reduce click through rates for "Spammers"???
  
  EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  I don't know what instant, preview, or anything else has to do with spammers.
  
  Google tries by keeping their crack commando Matt Cutts on the job.
  
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jhonsean

13 years ago

google is always on going when it regards to update and still it will takes time.

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orvn

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dimeco

Eesh. LOL. Guess they are worried about Bing taking over.

That's a silly presupposition, wouldn't you agree?

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Amber Jalink

13 years ago

Wow. I only asked to start a discussion (I hadn't noticed that someone else also remarked on it)... didn't expect the word "spammers" to put up such a response so I removed it from the original post.

I thought we were all professionals here and could voice an opinion/ask a question??

Originally Posted by orvn

That's a silly presupposition, wouldn't you agree?

Actually I'm not the first person who remarked on that.... a few SEO news sites have made comments on it as well, considering Bing has been moving up in the ranks of search.

I'm not stupid enough to think that google is afraid of Microsoft taking over the web... but obviously they realize its a feature that set Bing apart - and obviously people liked it.

For me, the thing I "do" like, is the hover lets you peek at the sites to find something faster...

the thing I don't like is a lot of times you can't truly see if its something you're interested in without going to it. (Although, I think seeing the automatic opt in boxes might deter people from going there if they think they have to opt in to access it - that might change things).

(And as a note for those who seemed to have immediately attacked my original remark re: "spammers"... all I meant was those fake directory / search engine results harvesters, that when you go to them all they are is almost a replica of google results - not true content, although I haven't seen those as much lately so maybe google got rid of them).

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Amber Jalink

13 years ago

One other thought - I'm not a programmer, so I don't know if this is even possible... but is it possible for a site that has an exploit... (i.e., virus if you go to it that tries to install or something)... is it possible for a "hover box" to automatically run it?

If you look at the hovers on some sites (depending on topic you're searching for), its blocked by the opt in box, as if it triggered it.... hopefully those virus creators won't figure out a way to have it triggered by the hover at Google OR bing, otherwise that'll cause a lot of problems.

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theentry

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dimeco

One other thought - I'm not a programmer, so I don't know if this is even possible... but is it possible for a site that has an exploit... (i.e., virus if you go to it that tries to install or something)... is it possible for a "hover box" to automatically run it?

If you look at the hovers on some sites (depending on topic you're searching for), its blocked by the opt in box, as if it triggered it.... hopefully those virus creators won't figure out a way to have it triggered by the hover at Google OR bing, otherwise that'll cause a lot of problems.

Amber

I think that's impossible, but you can never know what the virus makers came out

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IM Ash

13 years ago

Originally Posted by orvn

That's a silly presupposition, wouldn't you agree?

Nothing is impossible you know!

If Bing creates some sort of innovative offer that goes viral anything can happen. For instance, if they design a browser (with their SE set as the default of course) that supercedes Chrome and Firefox and find a way to get it to spread virally, anything can happen.

But it all depends on their own innovativeness.

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Fraggler

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Eleva8

If Bing creates some sort of innovative offer that goes viral anything can happen. For instance, if they design a browser (with their SE set as the default of course) that supercedes Chrome and Firefox and find a way to get it to spread virally, anything can happen.

But it all depends on their own innovativeness.

I'm not sure if you are being facetious or not...

Like bundling a browser with a widely used operating system??

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shulink

13 years ago

This feature is really cool, I like it.

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Jacob Martus

13 years ago

One thing that I have noticed about preview is that it excludes Adsense in the previews. I rather like that because if someone is previewing my page they don't see the ads until they get there.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like if people see ads on the preview they might be less likely to click the result.

Anyhow I doubt very many people will make use of preview unless it becomes a popular feature or gets some major attention. The little magnifying glass just really isn't that noticeable and I doubt regular searchers will even notice it.

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orvn

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

That brings up a good point (no Adsense in the preview).

That alone says that Google preview isn't really the Full Cache page.

Interesting...

At first I guessed they might have developed an on-the-fly artificial screenshot script, despite the processor load something like this would cause.

So I tested it out and Googled a few Twitter pages.
The screenshots are all about 24-72 hours old, with most being about two days old.

In a lot of cases, the cached page for these same results is ≈10 days old.

Can't figure it out. Any ideas?

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Amber Jalink

13 years ago

Originally Posted by orvn

At first I guessed they might have developed an on-the-fly artificial screenshot script, despite the processor load something like this would cause.

So I tested it out and Googled a few Twitter pages.
The screenshots are all about 24-72 hours old, with most being about two days old.

In a lot of cases, the cached page for these same results is ≈10 days old.

Can't figure it out. Any ideas?

From their perspective it probably makes sense to use the cache version of the sites in a way, kind of protects from people attempting to dupe it in "real time" - but doesn't exactly make sense for time-sensitive stuff like some blog posts or news.

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Jacob Martus

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I take that back

I just did another site:domain.com for one of my other sites.

Google does show Adsense in the Preview popup.

Strange it removes Adsense in random sites... :confused:

It doesn't show Adsense on the previews for any of my sites.

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jaydeee 13 years ago

for me its OK.
I like seeing things before actually going into it.
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- Jacob Martus 13 years ago
  
  Very weird. I'm seeing them for some sites and not for others.
  
  I wonder where they are getting the data from. One thing that I noticed is that the updated cache for one of my sites was showing PSA's and that preview has no ads.
  
  Another one of my sites has an older cache showing ads and the preview has the ads as well.
  
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  IM Ash 13 years ago
  
  I don't know about you guyz, but I see huge potential here...
  
  If sum1 can see my site b4 they even click through... then bring it on!
  
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orvn 13 years ago

There's no way Bing's going to get too far without major leaps in innovation. Something Microsoft hasn't been famous for for many years.

The question is, who's going to be taking the web into the direction of web 3.0?

Originally Posted by yukon

Only Clusty used an Iframe for a live preview, instead of a cache like Google is doing..

I remember Clusty, that was a cute little attempt
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- websitepopularityservices 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by orvn
  
  The question is, who's going to be taking the web into the direction of web 3.0?
  
  what is web 3.0?
  
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  Originally Posted by websitepopularityservices
  
  what is web 3.0?
  
  Web 3.0, is the semantic web. An internet where queries are phrased in the form of full blown questions.
  
  These questions can be answered, because each piece of information on the third generation web contains metadata, accompanying the raw content.
  
  There's a great deal of technology being developed out there and I'm happy to say that I'm at the cutting edge of it
  
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yanivkalfa

13 years ago

I dont think google is even slightly scared of anything bing or yahoo has to offer. take all the search engines together google takes 75-85% of the market the rest split the scraps .

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by yanivkalfa

I dont think google is even slightly scared of anything bing or yahoo has to offer. take all the search engines together google takes 75-85% of the market the rest split the scraps .

i dont think that myspace was scared of facebook..even slightly

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misskimberly

13 years ago

Its a nice cute feature...saves having to click through sites and find out what they have

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socialbookmark

13 years ago

This spyglass is for watching a preview of each link and i don't like and use it in Google and Bing. I think its a useless feature and most people don't use it.

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JasonValens

13 years ago

Can't figure it out. Any ideas?

I think it might be 24 hour CCTV or something. The government and google are after me...

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nettech

13 years ago

Its there to better the user experience!

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CatalinIcs

13 years ago

If a website looks bad, the CTR and the number of visitors will decrease. So, will become important to have a well designed website.

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Jonet Bradley 13 years ago

Originally Posted by CatalinIcs

If a website looks bad, the CTR and the number of visitors will decrease. So, will become important to have a well designed website.

This was my thought exactly, I am setting up some adsense sites right now and I was going to use a regular not-so-pretty adsense theme that gets good conversions, however I'm considering using one that is more "aesthetically" pleasing due to this.
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