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16 years ago

Yes, it is possible to get some PR from just one link, but you are always better off getting multiple links to strengthen your PR because if this backlink drops, your PR will shortly follow.

I always warn people before buying domains with high Page Rank, you need to check the PR is a result of multiple backlinks.

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wallstreeterwww 16 years ago

Wow, I agree for sure that if its a pr 7 link you surely can get pagerank assigned to you. Very nice find.
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brandonbaker 16 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Are you sure Seo Spyglass is getting all the backlinks from Yahoo Explorer?

Yep.

*Caveat: It may be possible that Yahoo isn't revealing all their links, but I find this pretty unlikely.
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FredJones 16 years ago

Looking from a practical point of view, if you are a website for alumni of a top-notch academic institute (university) of the quality of IIT Madras, you are bound to have backlinks of those high classes most of the time. For those who do not know, IITs are the best academic institutes in India - the same as what MIT is to USA.
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alinak

16 years ago

Yes i agree with brandonbaker.
1 backlink from 9/8 PR is equal to 100 backlink from 0 PR.

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cbpayne 16 years ago

Originally Posted by alinak

Yes i agree with brandonbaker.
1 backlink from 9/8 PR is equal to 100 backlink from 0 PR.

Not even close. 1 PR 9/8 link from a page is probably worth a few million links from PR0 pages
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  if you are a website for alumni of a top-notch academic institute of the quality of IIT Madras, I want to get it.
  
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- paulgl 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by cbpayne
  
  Not even close. 1 PR 9/8 link from a page is probably worth a few million links from PR0 pages
  
  Which is why people have to stop the insanity about the number of backlinks.
  The sheer number of backlinks is not an indication of much.
  
  I have said for many years that I get high PR by concentrating on a handful
  of high PR links. Backlinks are in effect, proportional. Google does not count
  all. Some count more. Yet I do know that going viral is a good thing.
  
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CikaPero

16 years ago

I have one question: what Firefox addon do you use to check page rank?

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brandonbaker 16 years ago

Originally Posted by CikaPero

I have one question: what Firefox addon do you use to check page rank?

I use this:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2007/
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zhangchen434

16 years ago

Thank you .May be it is useful?

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jhonsean

16 years ago

@brandonbaker Well explained. can we depend only on that one backlink that you have already discuss or more backlinks? I need to clear somethings.

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JackPowers

16 years ago

It likely won't keep that Page Rank the next time. There are tons of domains out there with high pagerank but where the backlinks have been removed. The domain may have Google TOOLBAR Pagerank, but the domain itself won't have linkjuice. In fact, this is one of the ways which people get scammed.

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socialbookmark

16 years ago

Its clear. One PR8 backlink usually make the backlink of external links 6. And for example as i heard one PR10 backlink, makes it 8.

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mascomasco

16 years ago

If I may understand post here,I really need a PR8 backlinks to have a PR of 6 or what? What of a backlink of PR 3 or PR2

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gocondo

16 years ago

Thank you!!! I was looking for such an example. Any chance that the links existed in the past and later removed but Google still counts them?

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guitarjosh

16 years ago

Hi guys... brand new to the forum. I've been here reading about a week. It's my new goal to learn SEO and many of my google searches kept leading here. So now.. expect a barrage of dumb questions from me for a while.

Along the lines of this post... I've been trying to understand the process of how other sites rank well, I came across one that has me befuddled. I'd like some insight from you.

astudentloandebt dot com (I can't post links yet) is a PR5 that looks like it was created this year. Using WebRank SEO, I see that it has almost no backlinks or pages indexed. I thought the secret to high PR was having a lot of backlinks? How does such a small site rank so well?

Insight? Thanks in advance.

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brandonbaker

16 years ago

Originally Posted by guitarjosh

astudentloandebt dot com (I can't post links yet) is a PR5 that looks like it was created this year. Using WebRank SEO, I see that it has almost no backlinks or pages indexed. I thought the secret to high PR was having a lot of backlinks? How does such a small site rank so well?

Insight? Thanks in advance.

The site actually has 86 links going to it. The reason why you see no links is because all the links are going to www.astudentloandebt.com, not astudentloandebt.com.

Google sees these two sites as totally different when it comes to PageRank.

And Spyglass reveals why it's a PR5:

Notice that PR6 link from FastWeb. That'll do it.

Also notice that all the links point to the www. page.

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guitarjosh 16 years ago

aha!!! Thanks a lot! You have taught me much in a very short time. Much appreciated!

Kind of strange that WebRank SEO doesn't evaluate both www and non www!
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  yes we get good page page rank some times with one link thank you every one for sharing there opinon
  
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testdrive

16 years ago

Hmm.. Thanks for analysis. I know that edu/gov sites are very valuable, but I certainly didn't know they can give you page one with just 1 link.

edit: Wait, it's not edu, but it's a school. Strange.

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bfas

16 years ago

Pagerank is a logarithmic scale (a curve). Fwiw:

1 PR1 = 101 PR0
1 PR2 = 555 PR0 = 101 PR1
1 PR3 = 3,000 PR0 = 555 PR1 = 101 PR2
1 PR4 = 17,000 PR0 = 3,000 PR1 = 555 PR2 = 101 PR3
1 PR5 = 93,000 PR0 = 17,000 PR1 = 3,000 PR2 = 555 PR3 = 101 PR4
1 PR6 = 508,000 PR0 = 93,000 PR1 = 17,000 PR2 = 3,000 PR3 = 555 PR4 = 101 PR5
1 PR7 = 2,878,666 PR0 = 508,000 PR1 = 93,000 PR2 = 17,000 PR3 = 3,000 PR4 = 555 PR5 = 101 PR6
1 PR8 = 15,818,412 PR0 = 2,878,666 PR1 = 508,000 PR2 = 93,000 PR3 = 17,000 PR4 = 3,000 PR5 = 555 PR6 = 101 PR7
1 PR9 = 85,504,929 PR0 = 15,818,412 PR1 = 2,878,666 PR2 = 508,000 PR3 = 93,000 PR4 = 17,000 PR5 = 3,000 PR6 = 555 PR7 = 101 PR8

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brandonbaker

16 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

Pagerank is a logarithmic scale (a curve). Fwiw:

1 PR1 = 101 PR0
1 PR2 = 555 PR0 = 101 PR1
1 PR3 = 3,000 PR0 = 555 PR1 = 101 PR2
1 PR4 = 17,000 PR0 = 3,000 PR1 = 555 PR2 = 101 PR3
1 PR5 = 93,000 PR0 = 17,000 PR1 = 3,000 PR2 = 555 PR3 = 101 PR4
1 PR6 = 508,000 PR0 = 93,000 PR1 = 17,000 PR2 = 3,000 PR3 = 555 PR4 = 101 PR5
1 PR7 = 2,878,666 PR0 = 508,000 PR1 = 93,000 PR2 = 17,000 PR3 = 3,000 PR4 = 555 PR5 = 101 PR6
1 PR8 = 15,818,412 PR0 = 2,878,666 PR1 = 508,000 PR2 = 93,000 PR3 = 17,000 PR4 = 3,000 PR5 = 555 PR6 = 101 PR7
1 PR9 = 85,504,929 PR0 = 15,818,412 PR1 = 2,878,666 PR2 = 508,000 PR3 = 93,000 PR4 = 17,000 PR5 = 3,000 PR6 = 555 PR7 = 101 PR8

Where is your evidence that PageRank is calculated on a this scale? I've always read it was calculated on a log scale between 5 and 6. So, something more like this:

PR0 - 1
PR1 - 6
PR2 - 36
PR3 - 216
PR4 - 1296
PR5 - 7776
PR6 - 46656
PR7 - 279936
PR8 - 1679616
PR9 - 10077696
PR10 - 60466176

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bfas

16 years ago

Originally Posted by brandonbaker

Where is your evidence that PageRank is calculated on a this scale? I've always read it was calculated on a log scale between 5 and 6. So, something more like this:

PR0 - 1
PR1 - 6
PR2 - 36
PR3 - 216
PR4 - 1296
PR5 - 7776
PR6 - 46656
PR7 - 279936
PR8 - 1679616
PR9 - 10077696
PR10 - 60466176

I actually pulled that from a post Kelly Felix did on Bring The Fresh, but in doing some homework, it appears you're closer to the mark.

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sbsb 16 years ago

Originally Posted by bfas

I actually pulled that from a post Kelly Felix did on Bring The Fresh, but in doing some homework, it appears you're closer to the mark.

Michael

IME your original numbers are more accurate.
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Saleese Phillips

16 years ago

Yeah it must be possible, i have 1 backlink and I'm on the first page of google. haha

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Fraggler

16 years ago

You can get a PR(1-9) with ZERO backlinks to the page...if you redirect your old domain to your new domain properly.

ummm maaah!

SEO Spy Glass won't find that one!

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brandonbaker

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraggler

You can get a PR(1-9) with ZERO backlinks to the page...if you redirect your old domain to your new domain properly.

ummm maaah!

SEO Spy Glass won't find that one!

Then you can even sell that freshly-made PR9 domain for a ton of money and after you collect your cash, remove the redirect!

Oh wait.

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FredJones 16 years ago

Yes, you got it spot on. Without naming any place, there is a famous forum (not Warrior, some other forum) that is infamous for this practice frequently seen by its members. It happens in other parts of the world too frequently enough. And not-so-hands-on people fall prey to this, shelling out huge cash. It is one of those horrible stinks out there.

EDIT: Always run the "info:sitename.tld" on the domain on Google.com before buying it, to make sure that the pagerank is not fake. I hope I could help some of you by this piece of info!

Originally Posted by brandonbaker

Then you can even sell that freshly-made PR9 domain for a ton of money and after you collect your cash, remove the redirect!

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paulgl

16 years ago

There is no level of backlinks for the next level.
Many of your backlinks do not increase PR. Many pages
are ignored. Call it GD, Google's decision.

How about PigeonRank? For a good laugh:
Why Google's patented PigeonRank™ works so well

When a search query is submitted to Google, it is routed to a data coop where monitors flash result pages at blazing speeds. When a relevant result is observed by one of the pigeons in the cluster, it strikes a rubber-coated steel bar with its beak, which assigns the page a PigeonRank value of one. For each peck, the PigeonRank increases. Those pages receiving the most pecks, are returned at the top of the user's results page with the other results displayed in pecking order.

PigeonRank is google's response to the PageRankLoons.

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copycashvalve

16 years ago

So then what is the point of a xrumer blast if all of those 0 pR links are useless Lol

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creativekone

16 years ago

I'm very thankful to each and everyone for sharing and posting there own suggestion.

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seoforu

16 years ago

Getting a link from a high pr website always help you to get rank.The point to note here is that how many OBL's are there on the page that is linking to you.This is what is worth looking.

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Cataclysm1987

16 years ago

Most sites won't work like this. I swear there is some magic secret sauce in the Google PR formula because I have sites that have hundreds of high PR links and no PR in SEO Spyglass.

Then I have sites like the one you've got.

I think a lot of it is domain age. Older domains just naturally develop page rank for some reason it would seem.

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brandonbaker

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987

Most sites won't work like this. I swear there is some magic secret sauce in the Google PR formula because I have sites that have hundreds of high PR links and no PR in SEO Spyglass.

Then I have sites like the one you've got.

I think a lot of it is domain age. Older domains just naturally develop page rank for some reason it would seem.

Are your backlinks coming in the form of blog comments? Or are they editorial?

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maryparker

16 years ago

I'm also using the Live PageRank plugin. You may also install Google toolbar if you're using a Firefox browser.

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halfbakedrew

16 years ago

there is alot of good info here. I have a few websites that rank high on google. One of them are in the first spot of google and it is a PR 2...And the others are PR0-1 and are on the first page as well. The sites that are under me are PR5 and up. I see people talk about PR has everything to do with seo but when it comes done to it, its all about backlinks. Backlinks from aritcles, rss, 2.0, and so on ...... You dont just need alot of one but some of everything, Im not going to lie I use software to rank on google so as far as where or how to im not sure but I can get things up by pressing a botton lol....Anyway I know what is needed to rank and just happen to know what programs help. But just like the next guy i still need help with some things and is always looking for the next thing.. Im still waiting for a program to help making backlinks that is not full auto, But noone has it or if you do pm me......I hope I helped someone here if not I tried...

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lior1970

16 years ago

It make sense to get high pr from super higher pr 8/9... a nice analysis for me to learn more... Thanks for sharing this!

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