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IP address question

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Google counts backlinks from the same IP address as one backlink. But if I create 3 backlinks from same source (eg from article directory) pointing TO 3 (different) of my sites which have the same IP address, does Google count all the backlinks or what?

Hope you understand what I mean
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  • Profile picture of the author orvn
    Originally Posted by dilemma View Post

    Google counts backlinks from the same IP address as one backlink. But if I create 3 backlinks from same source (eg from article directory) pointing TO 3 (different) of my sites which have the same IP address, does Google count all the backlinks or what?

    Hope you understand what I mean
    To my best knowledge, Google does not count multiple backlinks from the same IP address as a single backlink.

    If this were the case then every domain would only be able to give any given page a single backlink. So adding a link in a forum signature or commenting on multiple posts within the same blog would be pointless, from a link building perspective.

    Creating THOUSANDS+ of backlinks from a single IP address to a specific site would be a backlink bomb and a bad one at that. Backlink bombing is a black hat strategy, and shouldn't be executed from a single IP address, although a few black hat SEO's do make this mistake the first time around.

    So to answer your question, yes. Google is indeed counting all of those backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by orvn View Post

      Creating THOUSANDS+ of backlinks from a single IP address to a specific site would be a backlink bomb and a bad one at that. Backlink bombing is a black hat strategy, and shouldn't be executed from a single IP address
      I guess icanhascheezburger, TMZ and Breitbart are in big trouble then.
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        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        I guess icanhascheezburger, TMZ and Breitbart are in big trouble then.
        Along with gasbuddy and *CHOKE* this forum.
        Remember those sig links are from the same IP.
        Warriorforum is not on a unique IP, BTW.

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          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Along with gasbuddy and *CHOKE* this forum.
          Remember those sig links are from the same IP.
          Warriorforum is not on a unique IP, BTW.

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          Not to mention all those sites that have keyword optimized internal links (apparently all from the same IP) like Wikipedia.
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            Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

            I guess icanhascheezburger, TMZ and Breitbart are in big trouble then.
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            Along with gasbuddy and *CHOKE* this forum.
            Remember those sig links are from the same IP.
            Warriorforum is not on a unique IP, BTW.
            icanhascheezburger... a secret indulgence...
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            Originally Posted by dburk View Post

            Not to mention all those sites that have keyword optimized internal links (apparently all from the same IP) like Wikipedia.
            Hey guys. Well, the only detail I left out is "in a short period of time". Link bombs are typically automated bursts of links.

            That being said, I don't entirely see your point(s):
            (I know I'm wrong since three senior warriors just made a point, but I'm going for it anyways)

            icanhascheesburger is a breeding tank for linkbait. It receives massive quantities of backlinks, but they come from different sources, and subsequently different IP's.

            WarriorForum does generate mass amounts of backlinks to the same site(s), but it doesn't create nearly as many (or as fast) as an automated script does. We're talking in the thousands and in under a day.

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            Now that all that is done and said I'm going to obliterate my own argument:

            If I backlink bombed my competitor from a medium PR site that I have, I would be able to hurt his ranking. Sadly, I don't think this is possible, which is clearly a devastating blow to my aforementioned hypothesis.

            But it does, however, prompt me to ask a question:
            If I were to create 10 backlinks at the bottom of each of 50 pages on a PR4 site that I have, at once, would I be penalized? Is there a different flaw in my thinking that escapes my haphazard logic?
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            • Profile picture of the author dburk
              Originally Posted by orvn View Post

              But it does, however, prompt me to ask a question:
              If I were to create 10 backlinks at the bottom of each of 50 pages on a PR4 site that I have, at once, would I be penalized? Is there a different flaw in my thinking that escapes my haphazard logic?
              Do mean just like Wikipedia.org or About.com does? If you do it like they do you'll be just fine.
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            • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
              Originally Posted by orvn View Post

              Hey guys. Well, the only detail I left out is "in a short period of time". Link bombs are typically automated bursts of links.
              It is quite common for an obscure or new site to get a huge number of links very quickly.

              First of all, sites go viral to some degree all the time. A recent example is the "Don't Touch My Junk" guy.

              Next, it's quite common for site networks like cheezburger to launch new sites and link to them. A new cheezburger network site will get over 100K links, all from the same IP address cluster, from day one. The same is true of other networks.

              Originally Posted by orvn View Post

              If I were to create 10 backlinks at the bottom of each of 50 pages on a PR4 site that I have, at once, would I be penalized? Is there a different flaw in my thinking that escapes my haphazard logic?
              It isn't a problem to do this but often Googlenoid people will tell you that it will. There doesn't seem to be a problem with doing this kind of linking provided nothing else is going on that's not kosher so far as Google is concerned. Just how strong such links are is open to debate and seems to be highly variable in my experience.
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          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          icanhascheezburger... a secret indulgence...
          I suspected as much. You always struck me as the type, Paul :rolleyes:

          Originally Posted by dburk View Post

          Put me down for totally disagreeing.
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      Originally Posted by orvn View Post

      To my best knowledge, Google does not count multiple backlinks from the same IP address as a single backlink.
      Thank you, I am totally agree with you.
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    Googlenoid ?
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