Mega site vs mini sites

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Something I just don't get. What's with all the advice to build myriads of targeted mini sites, when all of the biggest most successful sites are massive content libraries on every subject imaginable?

Instead of building 1,000 1 or 2 page sites and likely getting most of them deindexed for spammy-ness at some point. Why not put that work into building a single 1,000-2,000 page site? If you have good content it's very unlikely that one big site will ever be deindexed.

Another thing I see. Everyone is so anal about keyword targeting. They build a site around a single keyword hoping to dominate it. But a big site will rank for countless keywords you would never think up on your own. And in my experience with the biggest site I own, is that 2/3s of my traffic comes from all those keywords I didn't plan for.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamSlade88
    Here's a quick answer - Most people dont like hard work and just want quick success.

    Its alot easier to rank a site with exact keyword in domain rather than rank pages. People want to see results straight away and rather go with this approach. Problem is, this approach isnt a long-term business model. Later you'll have these people starting threads here on why they just got their accounts banned.


    Mini Sites
    - Less work
    - quick results
    - short term business model

    Mega sites
    - Hard Work
    - Longer wait for success
    - Long term business model

    Take your pick...
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        • Profile picture of the author McBrett
          @33sitesaday - Yeah, I think you hit the nail right on the head there.

          I'm a big proponent of bigger websites as well. I like the idea of building up a massive web property with more pages and opportunities to capture traffic. Plus why spend time building up links to numerous URLs when you could focus your efforts on just one?

          @Akur042 Makes a great point though. If you're just going for a few quick bucks without spending much time create a mini - site.

          If you really want to make a bigger money starting from scratch, however. I recommend going with the mega site option an preparing to grind it out a bit before you start making money. After all, businesses aren't built overnight.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clyde
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Actually, a larger site is a lot less work.

        What's faster to build 20 pages/posts (larger site), or 20 individual blogs/sites (10 - small one page sites)?

        The larger site is cheaper & faster to build, IMO.
        No he was talking about sites like ezinearticles.com, ehow.com etc

        100000000k+ pages per site.

        20 pages/site = mini sites, compared to those.
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          • Profile picture of the author AdamSlade88
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            20 pages was an example, make it 20-billion pages If you want.

            Still it's less work, 20-billion pages (large site) - vs - 20-billion one page sites (small sites).
            You can call it less work if you want but but I'm betting mega sites will require a hell lotta SEO work compared to mini sites

            Like I said in my previous post. Results will come later when building authority sites. Hence why John (X Factor) decided to build a bunch of mini sites instead of working on his one authority site.
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            • Profile picture of the author Doug Pretorius
              Originally Posted by acur042 View Post

              You can call it less work if you want but but I'm betting mega sites will require a hell lotta SEO work compared to mini sites
              I'm not an expert by any means but from what I've seen on my own sites, it's just the opposite. I've built roughly 15-20 mini sites and if they rank at all it's a miracle. While my 'authority' site (if you can call it that) ranks 6th for it's main competitive keyword without doing any SEO work at all other than building pages with related keywords. No link building, no bookmarking, no nothing.
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              • Profile picture of the author cybernet
                Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                The mega site SEO is the exact same as the mini site, If your running WP like I am.

                Most of my on-page SEO is server side php code.

                I've been doing this for a few years (Adsense sites), I have a 550+ site, I also have a handful of small niche sites 25+ pages. I'm now working on a 1,000+ page site, so far has about 80+/- pages.

                The SEO is the same no matter how large the site...
                yukon, can you tell which software you use to create mini sites?
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          • Profile picture of the author Clyde
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            20 pages was an example, make it 20-billion pages If you want.

            Still it's less work, 20-billion pages (large site) - vs - 20-billion one page sites (small sites).
            How is a 20-billion pages site less work ROI-wise? Please explain more.
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      Originally Posted by acur042 View Post

      Later you'll have these people starting threads here on why they just got their accounts banned.
      <sigh> This again....

      The Adsense team won't suspend your account just because your site is small or if you have a lot of sites. They're concerned about advertisers (and themselves) making money from your traffic. As long as you don't use tactics that violate their TOS, all you have to concern yourself with is sending targeted buying traffic through their links.

      An entirely different department the big mega-corporation Google is the source for problems for the thin site owner (a thin site can have 1 page or 10000 BTW). This is due to the ongoing quest of this team to improve the quality of Google's search results while insuring Google's own products have #1 billing.
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        I wish people would stop talking about "Xfactor this Xfactor that Xfactor's new course..."

        Oh my bad, is this the wrong thread!? Because it's reminding me of Xfactor crap.


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  • Profile picture of the author Jdub2104
    Not to mention cluttering up your hosting account! I love niche sites, but man they can get annoying sometimes!
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  • Profile picture of the author tdd1984
    Originally Posted by 33centsaday View Post

    Something I just don't get. What's with all the advice to build myriads of targeted mini sites, when all of the biggest most successful sites are massive content libraries on every subject imaginable?

    Instead of building 1,000 1 or 2 page sites and likely getting most of them deindexed for spammy-ness at some point. Why not put that work into building a single 1,000-2,000 page site? If you have good content it's very unlikely that one big site will ever be deindexed.

    Another thing I see. Everyone is so anal about keyword targeting. They build a site around a single keyword hoping to dominate it. But a big site will rank for countless keywords you would never think up on your own. And in my experience with the biggest site I own, is that 2/3s of my traffic comes from all those keywords I didn't plan for.
    Generally people build mini sites out if there low in quality. They are generally made to spam search engines out. If I was you, I'd focus on building a brand. Focus on building a quality site with tons of invaluable content.
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      I never understand why every thread in this forum has to be black or white... as with most IM topics there is no right or wrong. Build what you have tested and know works for you..

      Google doesn't care if you site is one page or 1,000,000... one of the biggest mistakes people make is thinking about sites... try and think like google ... think about pages as a stand alone entity.

      Targeted keyword based domains will generally have a ranking advantage... so that is one reason to concentrate on smaller sites, .

      Placing your eggs in one basket is another... it only takes one technical issue and you lose your only/main source of income.

      If you decide to build your mega site then you'd better get your own vps or server to start with because moving that big site when you outgrow your shared hosting will be a nightmare.


      I generally start with small 1 -5 page sites that have good quality unique content, i'll do a bit of promotion I'll then leave them for 6 months , after that I'll start to promote them and add new unique content based on the analytic results.

      Smaller sites are more manageable , you can promote every page and ensure they rank well with a mega site you can't do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author mad.hat
    Most people do not have much of a budget to build and sustain huge sites. They go with the minisite approach because it is cheaper to get started and you can start earning profits right away. They then take their profits and invest it into more minisites. That's what is so great about them, they pay off quickly with the right keywords and are not difficult to maintain.

    If you haven't built up a site that makes more than $1k/day then you don't know about all the problems you can run into at this point. I'm not just talking about logistics either.
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    What's with all the hate for the mini-sites? I have a site with 5 pages of unique content that has been alive since October 20th of this year and is averaging 40 unique visitors per day.

    It's not about doing less work or being lazy. It's about targeting a niche and ranking for a low competition keyword with decent traffic. Converting super-targeted traffic, as we all know, is easier than converting traffic targeted for a more general keyword.

    Either way, I've made good money on mini-sites, thus I won't sway from them until I sense something changing.
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Originally Posted by TheGrooby View Post

      What's with all the hate for the mini-sites? I have a site with 5 pages of unique content that has been alive since October 20th of this year and is averaging 40 unique visitors per day.

      It's not about doing less work or being lazy. It's about targeting a niche and ranking for a low competition keyword with decent traffic. Converting super-targeted traffic, as we all know, is easier than converting traffic targeted for a more general keyword.

      Either way, I've made good money on mini-sites, thus I won't sway from them until I sense something changing.

      I wonder how many people who are so anti mini sites actually have a mega site and promote it properly?

      How many have 100% unique content that has been researched and not spun/autogenerated

      On all my mini sites that are over a year old I have almost 100% of the pages ranking on the first page in Google and most in the top 5. All the content in unique and well researched.


      Oh and to the person who said this was all xfactor bull ... mini sites were around long before that system, I've been teaching how to build them properly for almost 6 years.
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