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When is the next Google dance?

by Eduard
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Is it at the end of this year, or the beginning of the new one? Does anybody know this?
#dance #google
  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Whenever the Big G decides it wants to dance, in other words there is no set time....
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    Nope, very little that Google does is predictable.....
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    There has NOT been a Google dance since 2003
    http://dance.efactory.de/
    What is the Google Dance? | Forum Doc
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    • Profile picture of the author GreenMachine
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      There has NOT been a Google dance since 2003
      Thanks for this post really informative for those of us who weren't in the industry in 2003. Guess many people seem to have misconceived notions about what the "Google Dance" really was. Thanks again for the clarification.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony W
    Google dance? But I don't have a date yet...
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  • Profile picture of the author faceblogger
    If you do instance link building it's likely your site will encounter a google dance, If you don't do any link building your website will NOT encounter a google dance - It has the answer for your question, infer it properly!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author BigDaddys101
      Originally Posted by faceblogger View Post

      If you do instance link building it's likely your site will encounter a google dance, If you don't do any link building your website will NOT encounter a google dance - It has the answer for your question, infer it properly!!!!
      That would be new news to me, but I guess a shady footprint in your linking strategy could raise red flags.

      I honestly don't think big G sticks to any particular pattern, when one person figures out the pattern the rest of the world abuses it
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      • Profile picture of the author Eduard
        OK, I've been reading some articles today which say that Google does a fresh crawl of the web almost continuously and a deep crawl once every month, which is when all the backlinks are accounted for and the ranking of a site/page can greatly change.

        Is this true, is this information still applicable?
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by faceblogger View Post

      If you do instance link building it's likely your site will encounter a google dance, If you don't do any link building your website will NOT encounter a google dance - It has the answer for your question, infer it properly!!!!
      Originally Posted by BigDaddys101

      That would be new news to me...
      You could have stopped right there. It makes no sense.

      Don't do any link building? LOL! Yeah. I guess that's good advice for your competitors.

      I'll keep link building, thank you!

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author faceblogger
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        You could have stopped right there. It makes no sense.

        Don't do any link building? LOL! Yeah. I guess that's good advice for your competitors.

        I'll keep link building, thank you!

        Paul
        LOL! I was only explaining how and why google dance occur. To make him understand that google dance is not a fixed thing and it all depends on the intensity of link building and changes per site.
        Also, I don't think my competitors (or anyone else) are that stupid to stop link building hearing such 'advice'
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  • Profile picture of the author Genesis1
    It's unpredictable google can dance at the time they want
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    The Mayans predicted the google dance to be some time in December, 2012. Just sayin'.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    Just saw my post count from that last post - can't have 666 posts on Xmas, or I'll lose all my money in 2011. So I'll take this time to second Paul's comment, and also add that whenever the band plays, google likes to tango.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    Originally Posted by seoforgoogle View Post

    Google dance occurs once in month for particular keyword.

    It is keyword related. I am doing SEO for my site with 9 keyword. All 9 keywords are in top.
    But one keyword is effected by google dance. Suddenly it disappears. After someday it is on top 10. After 1 week it is not in the SERP. So Google dance occurs to particular keyword for one time.
    Originally Posted by faceblogger View Post

    If you do instance link building it's likely your site will encounter a google dance, If you don't do any link building your website will NOT encounter a google dance - It has the answer for your question, infer it properly!!!!
    Can you two please explain the refernces above to there not being a Google dance since 2003?
    Originally Posted by Eduard View Post

    OK, I've been reading some articles today which say that Google does a fresh crawl of the web almost continuously and a deep crawl once every month, which is when all the backlinks are accounted for and the ranking of a site/page can greatly change.
    Nope. That was true many yrs ago but they don't do it anymore.

    I wish more of my competitors would come here to get their SEO advice ...
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post


      I wish more of my competitors would come here to get their SEO advice ...
      Yeah boy! That has got be the line of the year!!!!!!!!!! LOL!

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
    This is quite an interesting thread going here.

    The Google dance doesn't happen to everybody at the same time. And the 'Google dance' is just a term used to describe the fluctuation or disappearance of your search engine rankings for whatever reason.

    Most of the time this only happens to new sites. I have never, ever experienced what you call, the 'google dance' on a site that's established. This has only happened to me after the first week or so that my new sites get indexed.

    There's nothing you can do about the google dance, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen whether you like it or not.

    Some say, and I believe this too, the 'google dance' is when a website is put into some kind of evaluation or review phase to judge the quality of the site. I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure they just remove, or decrease your rankings during this period of time so they can be sure your site belongs in their search engines and isn't a threat to Google users.

    Trust me, google dances aren't scheduled, they don't happen regularly to everybody. The Google dance is a per website thing, and there's nothing you can do except for anticipate it and not freak out when your site's been live for only a week and then it disappears.
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    • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
      Originally Posted by Adam Roy View Post

      This is quite an interesting thread going here.

      The Google dance doesn't happen to everybody at the same time. And the 'Google dance' is just a term used to describe the fluctuation or disappearance of your search engine rankings for whatever reason.

      Most of the time this only happens to new sites. I have never, ever experienced what you call, the 'google dance' on a site that's established. This has only happened to me after the first week or so that my new sites get indexed.

      There's nothing you can do about the google dance, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen whether you like it or not.

      Some say, and I believe this too, the 'google dance' is when a website is put into some kind of evaluation or review phase to judge the quality of the site. I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure they just remove, or decrease your rankings during this period of time so they can be sure your site belongs in their search engines and isn't a threat to Google users.

      Trust me, google dances aren't scheduled, they don't happen regularly to everybody. The Google dance is a per website thing, and there's nothing you can do except for anticipate it and not freak out when your site's been live for only a week and then it disappears.
      Thats NOT what the Google dance is! You also confusing it with the mythical sandbox. Thats is just fluctuations in the rankings of a site.
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

        Thats NOT what the Google dance is! You also confusing it with the mythical sandbox. Thats is just fluctuations in the rankings of a site.
        Hey Obi Wan. How about you enlighten us then. What exactly IS the google "Dance"?
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        • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
          Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

          Hey Obi Wan. How about you enlighten us then. What exactly IS the google "Dance"?
          Why not just read the thread before posting? Its linked above. There has NOT been a Google dance since 2003.
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Be ready on 4/1/2011 !!
      <inserts thunder cracks and ominous string section>
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        • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          It will be the day that everyone remembers for years [adjusting tin foil hat]!
          I've already got broadband in my bomb shelter lol!!
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

    Why not just read the thread before posting? Its linked above. There has NOT been a Google dance since 2003.
    I know you didn't just say that to me. OK, obviously you did. And so I guess I'm supposed to take the opinion piece blog posts you linked to as THE FINAL WORD on what in the bloody hell a google "Dance" actually is? So if I write a post on my site tomorrow that states emphatically "global warming is a lie" and link to it in a post here, we can all stop worrying about those pesky fossil fuels and freak hurricanes, yes?

    The "Dance" is nothing, no such thing, and I know this. What you call the "Dance" in those articles is just a term used to describe the phenomenon you (or the author) were explaining in those articles. What IS happening is sites DO fluctuate and behave exactly as Adam eluded to in his reply, during the first few weeks of a new site almost exclusively, if not far more than they do once the domain is aged. Is your position that this doesn't happen? Am I clear yet? Cuz if that is your position you're dead wrong. It happens on the regular.

    What we are talking about here IS NOT the obvious routine position change of sites that happens normally, or as result of contributing issues.

    Pretty much anyone with their heads NOT up their ##@$ knows this, so it makes no sense for you to come swooping in a harmless thread, armed with a few links to Op/Ed pieces and then spew holier than thou one liner commandments. It does nothing to help or inform. For instance:

    OPINION:
    Originally Posted by Adam Roy

    And the 'Google dance' is just a term used to describe the fluctuation or disappearance of your search engine rankings for whatever reason
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    Originally Posted by cbpayne

    Thats NOT what the Google dance is!
    The man just finished saying that what he described as "the google dance" is just a term... Get it? It's a phrase people say to quickly describe a phenomenon they see occur with their sites, and it's caught on. No reason for you to come swooping through telling anyone they're wrong about semantics, because that IS WRONG. Just explain, sans links, why you're right, and leave it at that. Forums contain opinions mate, and like a$$holes, everyone has one.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    You making stuff up. Anyone who was around in SEO prior to 2003 knows exactly what the term 'Google Dance' was used for. You making stuff up to change its meaning.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Roy
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      You making stuff up. Anyone who was around in SEO prior to 2003 knows exactly what the term 'Google Dance' was used for. You making stuff up to change its meaning.
      Dude, you should really just stop while you're ahead. You have not added any value what so ever to this thread.

      I can't believe you said Peter and I, or Peter, whoever you're talking about there, is making stuff up. That was just completely uncalled for and and is absolutely WRONG.

      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      You making stuff up to change its meaning.
      What?
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      You making stuff up. Anyone who was around in SEO prior to 2003 knows exactly what the term 'Google Dance' was used for. You making stuff up to change its meaning.
      Excuse me? What, no really, what in blue hell are you on about? I'm simply explaining to you that what people TODAY are describing as "the google dance" is an adapted phrase used to describe the situations they see their sites experience TODAY, not 2003, not 1967 either. I'm not making a damn thing up.

      Would you like the people experiencing the site fluctuations they are experiencing to stop calling it a "google dance"? If so, start a petition, write your congressman, maybe you can pass a law and site owners will be forced to call their issue "The Google Doodle Do".

      Further, what I'm saying is that you came in this thread to argue semantics over an issue of substance, and that does nothing to help the problem of dramatic site fluctuations, which does happen. If OP took your word for it, he'd walk away thinking it wasn't happening and that he was hallucinating his site jumping positions, because apparently "it stopped in 2003".

      You're stance has nothing to do with the issue. You're arguing apples and elephants, and doing it for about an hour now. It's getting old.
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    a shakeup just settled at the beginning of this month.
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  • Profile picture of the author affiliatelabel
    I think this so called google dance happens weekly slowly, painless for some , kidney stone pain for others. They change ranking paterns as they find abusers, holes etc, hey baby happy christmas and will 2011 bring us massive amounts of cash?
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