Is SeNuke & MS black -hat or white -hat ?

by NiyazK
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Hey People,

I was just wondering whether the softwares like SENUKE and MAGIC SUBMITTER are whitehat or black hat or does that depend on the user?

I have been confused regarding this since a long period of time.Answers are appreciated.

Niyaz

PS: Dont tell me that these softwares work and bring ranking.. I know that!
#black #hat #senuke #white
  • Profile picture of the author El Zorro
    Hi NiyazK. These softwares work and bring ranking

    I am kidding. They are not BlueFart. It's the way you use it which counts. Don't spam the internet with them and you will be doing very good.

    The difference between spam and internet marketing is CONTENT. At least that is what some experts say.

    Provide good enough content to those web 2.0 sites you are going to create and then bookmark the hell out of them

    Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    Thanks.. i m just doin it with Magic Submitter.. I also make sure i hav readable content on the web 2.0 and also i have removed the sites which violate rules like some so 'no automating the system' so i simply remove such sites.

    Would appreciate more answers!
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    • Profile picture of the author dadamson
      Originally Posted by NiyazK View Post

      Thanks.. i m just doin it with Magic Submitter.. I also make sure i hav readable content on the web 2.0 and also i have removed the sites which violate rules like some so 'no automating the system' so i simply remove such sites.

      Would appreciate more answers!
      It sounds like you are doing the right thing.

      These software programs are completely determined on the user, not the software.

      As long as you are using it effectively, creating as much unique content as you can and not overdoing it, you will have the best (and safest) results.

      If you are using it sparingly, not mass-submitting, there is no reason why you can't keep those sites with the automation rules in there. There is not much chance they are going to find out unless you do abuse the system, as many people do.

      The trick with software like this is to create a natural, progressive link-building pattern, meaning long term building is the key and this will stand out to Google above the people who are getting thousands of links in bulk and then pretty much no links or tens of thousands of links the next week.

      To be honest, it seems like you are doing the right thing, too many people abuse the system and get unpredictable short-lived results.

      All in all, link building works, do it naturally. Software can aid this natural process when done correctly and ethically.

      -Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author DJ DeMarco
    Its depends at how you use both of the tools. If you use that tools to build brute links for your website, it can be blackhat. But if you only use this tools for automated your linkbuilding job, its very whitehat ways. The main purpose of this kind of tools are to automated your job and save your time, not to spamming your link everywhere...lol
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  • Profile picture of the author El Zorro
    Isn't it funny how this forum automatically turns bl4ckh4t into bluefart??? lol
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    • Profile picture of the author eldivorciado
      Wow so young and so knowledgeable..cool. I mean the king of SEO..<(compliment).Well anyway I wanna know if you or anyone here gives thumbs up to White Hat Copy Cat 2? Im thinking of buying?
      Will appreciate response
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    well i usually post good articles so i think the method which i use isnt blackhat
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    I have been thinking about purchasing MS but still on the fence. How easy is it to use for a non tech savvy guy? What's the success rate when creating web 2.0 accounts?
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    well magic submitter is pretty cheap compared to SENuke and does hav many features. I use it everyday. Its easy to use. There are updates every week and the success is pretty ok like 70-80% in my opinion. Might differ for others.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacked
    pretty sure they would be considered black hat...right?
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    strange you left me confused
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    bump!!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    I´ve been using SeNuke since just about 2 months and
    have been pretty satisfied with it´s power.

    A tool is powerful, as long as you use it correctly!
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    thanks for taking the time to reply to this thread, i just wanted to be on the safer side so i removed the sites which say no automation. As far as mass submitting is concerned i usually promote arcade niches with articles.

    I am also looking forward for adding images and some other stuff in the article like a video .What are your opinions?
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    • Profile picture of the author dadamson
      Originally Posted by NiyazK View Post

      thanks for taking the time to reply to this thread, i just wanted to be on the safer side so i removed the sites which say no automation. As far as mass submitting is concerned i usually promote arcade niches with articles.

      I am also looking forward for adding images and some other stuff in the article like a video .What are your opinions?
      Images and video are great for your article, not only do look attractive to the eye and drive your direct traffic up, but you should be seen more natural to google and hence the links should be stronger, I don't have any proof on this but I do know that google considers the use of images and video in the body of articles. This technique will probably be more focused upon over time too weed out the spammers and mass linkers so my guess is that unique images and video will be good in the long term aspect, it certainly can't be bad!

      It also won't be long before google can actually determine the topic of the image by crawling it if the rumors are true (not just with meta, name, and title tags either!)

      -Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
    Originally Posted by NiyazK View Post

    Hey People,

    I was just wondering whether the softwares like SENUKE and MAGIC SUBMITTER are whitehat or black hat or does that depend on the user?

    I have been confused regarding this since a long period of time.Answers are appreciated.

    Niyaz

    PS: Dont tell me that these softwares work and bring ranking.. I know that!
    If you're doing it for backlinks which I assume everyone who buys the software does it for then yes it's BlueFart. Read Google's webmaster guidelines and it mentions trying to manipulate the search engines is against their TOS. If it wasn't why do some people mention being careful about building backlinks.

    For you to create backlinks to improve rankings isn't what Google intended backlinks for, it WAS supposed to be like a vote of confidence from other sites (not your own).

    That being said INTENTIALLY backlinking in itself would be against Google's TOS, but backlinking is so commonplace that it isn't looked upon as BlueFart. What's strange is that Google allows their PPC advertisers to advertise backlink packets. JMO
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    Well i would conisder this whitehat and proceed ahead.. More opinions are still appreciated
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    • Profile picture of the author wesker777
      I have a quick question.

      I just bought MS and I've never really used anything like it before. I have a simple product review site and I've created some articles for the products. I was wondering what type of link building strategy I should use with magic submitter? As in, how many times should I submit 1 article about 1 of the products on my site?

      I've seen a lot of people say that 25 submissions per article a day is a good number. I've seen others say 1 submission per article a day is good. I'm also a little confused if RSS feeds, bookmarking or blogging is considered article submission or does it only refer to article directories such as ezinearticles, etc?

      Appreciate the help, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    i would say submit to all the blogs a day.. you should keep it constant.. i usually submit each of my sites everyday
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  • Profile picture of the author orvn
    Software like SEnuke comes with a black hat pretense. C'mon everyone, you can pretend to be all altruistic and whatnot, but it's evident that the software was created for spam because you CAN use it to that end.

    There's nothing wrong with automated submission until you reach the point where you can make thousands of submissions in a short period of time. When this occurs, you can bet that the quality of your posts will dwindle down into the realm of spam.

    SEnuke is black hat because for the most part, it pollutes internet content.
    The only way to argue this is to argue the definition of white/black hat SEO.

    I think that any SEO who knows anything about programming engages in black hat practices. Personally, I'm against polluting internet content, but I'm not against abusing search engines when I can
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  • Profile picture of the author NiyazK
    Just Another point of confusion
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