When is a good time to start building backlinks?

Alexa Smith Banned 15 years ago

I start putting articles on a site the first day it's up. (I sometimes start building backlinks even before that, once I've registered the domain-name).

The sooner I can get my articles posted and indexed on the site, the sooner I can start submitting them to article directories. I'll start with as few as 2 or 3 articles, and just gradually add them.
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yrafanan 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Boricua

Immediately! Just don't submit 4,000 links having purchased the domain yesterday. Humanize, humanize

Yeah I agree with you. Just post a link one at a time.
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tpw

15 years ago

Why wait? Seriously?

Are you putting up the website to get traffic and make money? Or are you doing it just so that you can see your name in lights?

Answer those questions, and it should be clear that the earlier the better is the right answer.

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dave_hermansen

15 years ago

Yep, I agree with what Boricua said. Start link building right away, but don't do any massive link building efforts for a brand new site. You want it to look natural to Google.

The size of the site (# of pages) doesn't matter much. I'd say just make sure you have a few pages that have a fair amount of content on them. I've actually gotten plain HTML pages with a couple paragraphs ranked before even bothering to convert them into ecommerce stores.

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aaron_nimocks

15 years ago

The reason why I would wait and never start immediately is because I have seen better results this way.

When link building you want to make it the most natural as possible right? Well building links like that on day 1 isn't natural links and Google is smart.

I am not saying you won't see results. I am just saying I have seen better results by waiting.

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tpw

15 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks

The reason why I would wait and never start immediately is because I have seen better results this way.

When link building you want to make it the most natural as possible right? Well building links like that on day 1 isn't natural links and Google is smart.

I am not saying you won't see results. I am just saying I have seen better results by waiting.

I guess either I am not smart, or "your results may differ" from mine.

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Aussie_Al

15 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks

The reason why I would wait and never start immediately is because I have seen better results this way.

When link building you want to make it the most natural as possible right? Well building links like that on day 1 isn't natural links and Google is smart.

Whats "natural"? Imagine you started a new blog and you exposed some major political scandal and every news site in the world was quoting you and give you back link juice?

It has happened plenty of times before and Google has not penalized that type of site for doing so.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Aussie_Al

It has happened plenty of times before and Google has not penalized that type of site for doing so.

Google isn't crazy enough to penalize a site for other sites linking to it. If you could get sites "penalized" for that, people would be penalizing all their competitors' sites, others would be marketing the "service" and the SERP's would ultimately be valueless. You can't be penalized for things that happen off your site.

Originally Posted by dave_hermansen

So until that first link is found you don't even necessarily exist as far as Google is concerned. Regardless of whether your site is 1 day old or 1 year old.

This isn't what I've found, myself, to be honest. Google sometimes indexes domain-names I've bought at Namecheap and just have parked there, unhosted, with no site, no content and no backlinks. This surprises me, but it does happen.

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tpw

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This isn't what I've found, myself, to be honest. Google sometimes indexes domain-names I've bought at Namecheap and just have parked there, unhosted, with no site, no content and no backlinks. This surprises me, but it does happen.

I have a couple of those. You can see the coming soon message in the Google cache.

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Michael Shook

15 years ago

Don't write anymore in this post until you have at least one backlink to your site.

Start with something easy that enthusiastic folks would do. Write an article and submit it to EZA. Make a squidoo lens, or a hubpage.

Better yet, write a post on your blog with a link to your page and tell the internet that you have posted new content on your site.

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Roell

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JMichaelZ

Don't write anymore in this post until you have at least one backlink to your site.

Start with something easy that enthusiastic folks would do. Write an article and submit it to EZA. Make a squidoo lens, or a hubpage.

Better yet, write a post on your blog with a link to your page and tell the internet that you have posted new content on your site.

Does EZA refer to Ezine articles?

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tpw 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Roell

Does EZA refer to Ezine articles?

Yes, it does.
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Black Hat Cat

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Google isn't crazy enough to penalize a site for other sites linking to it. If you could get sites "penalized" for that, people would be penalizing all their competitors' sites, others would be marketing the "service" and the SERP's would ultimately be valueless. You can't be penalized for things that happen off your site.

If that's what it takes to get you through the day. Just because it's crazy doesn't mean it isn't so. It doesn't make sense to dump million dollar Adwords advertisers either, and yet they did. And the argument doesn't make sense anyway. There are millions of competitor sites in any given niche. Are you going to spend thousands of dollars a day to get rid of the other 9 competitors on page one....9 competitors that will only be replaced by 9 more? Yeah, good luck with that.

It has already been documented in the past that it was possible to tank the rankings of other sites, and guess what? Everyone wasn't doing it to get rid of their competitors. It was also possible to Google Bomb your way to the top. Guess what? Everyone wasn't doing that either.

Still, if anyone is confident that it isn't possible to be penalized for things that happen off your site, feel free to donate one of your money makers to the cause, and let's find out.

This isn't what I've found, myself, to be honest. Google sometimes indexes domain-names I've bought at Namecheap and just have parked there, unhosted, with no site, no content and no backlinks. This surprises me, but it does happen.

It happens because the domain registrar HAS linked to it in some way. No links, no indexing.

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aaron_nimocks

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Aussie_Al

Whats "natural"? Imagine you started a new blog and you exposed some major political scandal and every news site in the world was quoting you and give you back link juice?

It has happened plenty of times before and Google has not penalized that type of site for doing so.

Sure every news site in the world that are trusted quality sites. But we aren't talking about those types of sites, are we? We are talking about article directories, social media sites, directories, ect. Not really top notch places to get a link on because its so easy to.

Google used to penalize sites yes that gained links to quick. It was called Google Bowling but that is a thing of the past before social media really.

Like I said though. It wont hurt to start early and you wont get penalized. Only sharing in my experience it is better to wait before building too many links.

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Aussie_Al

15 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks

Sure every news site in the world that are trusted quality sites. But we aren't talking about those types of sites, are we? We are talking about article directories, social media sites, directories, ect. Not really top notch places to get a link on because its so easy to.

Hey Aaron I know what you are saying however just imagine you write some small time blog and all of a sudden CNN.com features you on their site and others start following their lead - do you really think Google is going to penalize a site like that?

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aaron_nimocks

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Aussie_Al

Hey Aaron I know what you are saying however just imagine you write some small time blog and all of a sudden CNN.com features you on their site and others start following their lead - do you really think Google is going to penalize a site like that?

No and thats what I said or was trying to say.

There's a difference with quality sites with "trust rank" linking to you than other sites. CNN is a big difference than hubpages or twitter. Anyone can post crap on those 2 sites, getting on CNN is a different story.

Also I did mention that Google wouldn't, or I haven't seen in a long time, penalize a site for building links right after you launch a site.

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Aussie_Al

15 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks

No and thats what I said or was trying to say.

There's a difference with quality sites with "trust rank" linking to you than other sites. CNN is a big difference than hubpages or twitter. Anyone can post crap on those 2 sites, getting on CNN is a different story.

Also I did mention that Google wouldn't, or I haven't seen in a long time, penalize a site for building links right after you launch a site.

Ok my bad, just wanted to make sure it was clear for people

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F1SEO

15 years ago

Originally Posted by aaron_nimocks

The reason why I would wait and never start immediately is because I have seen better results this way.

When link building you want to make it the most natural as possible right? Well building links like that on day 1 isn't natural links and Google is smart.

I am not saying you won't see results. I am just saying I have seen better results by waiting.

Totally in agreement with this. I always wait for a bit too. I've seen better, and more stable results from waiting for a while before doing anything off-site.

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makingiants

15 years ago

Roell, don't wait, start today!
If you want traffic to come to your site, then start
building backlinks as soon as you begin posting to
your blog.

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dave_hermansen

15 years ago

Well, the first link usually gets you "discovered" by Google. So until that first link is found you don't even necessarily exist as far as Google is concerned. Regardless of whether your site is 1 day old or 1 year old.

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dave_hermansen

15 years ago

Yeah, you can get indexed without backlinks (by being visited by someone with the google toolbar installed, or other ways), but often times it happens because of your first backlink. Good point though!!

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submitedgeseo

15 years ago

I think there is not any good time or bad time for building links but I will wait for around 20 days and then start building the backlinks for my website and i think it gives me the better result for my website.

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scott g

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Roell

At what stage of the site building process should one start building backlinks/submitting articles?
Is there a certain benchmark, say 20-25 pages?

I usually start creating backlinks before I upload my sites. So I typically will START at around 400-500 backlinks showing in Yahoo! Site Explorer. Immediately already indexed and being crawled regularly.

No problems. I'll build 1000 backlinks a day sometimes... That hurts nothing. I'll be lucky if Google/Yahoo find and give me credit for a third of them...

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ambrosevilly

15 years ago

Hi friends ,
I want to also upload backlinks on my website but I do not know how I can upload these links on website.I also do not know, where I can get these links.please guide me ..I hope to all for help.

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All Night Cafe 15 years ago

We start building our backlinks as soon as we have
our first article up. The sooner the better.
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FrankBowman

15 years ago

If I could build links BEFORE I get the domain I would!!! Start building immediately!!!

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auradev

15 years ago

yes, start building links immediately and try to do a handful a day.

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Look4VGames

15 years ago

whenever you want to actually make money...

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SGForce 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Look4VGames

whenever you want to actually make money...

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samuel.johnson

15 years ago

I think it is better to start when all to on page optimization had been finished.

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linkswap 15 years ago

After the site has got its on-page optimisation done properly, one could switch on to build good link popularity for the site which is really effective and does work for the site as far the ranking of it is concerned in the serp.
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RealEcon

15 years ago

Start backlinking immediately. A Press Release every week is a nice, easy, natural and viral way to get your backlinks started.

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rain21

15 years ago

u can start after few weeks, but dont make hundreds of back links a day when ur site is new

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Shirlyn

15 years ago

The best time to start building backlink for your website is when your domain or site content has been crawled by Google and you have some PR from Google then it is a good time to start earing backlinks through articles submissions, forum participation and bookmarking.

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RealEcon

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Shirlyn

The best time to start building backlink for your website is when your domain or site content has been crawled by Google and you have some PR from Google then it is a good time to start earing backlinks through articles submissions, forum participation and bookmarking.

...and how do you get Google to crawl your site? By building backlinks;-)

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taboy74

15 years ago

Very lively discussions here. I love to hang-out here because I can pick up a lot nuggets from the veterans.

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signity2

15 years ago

Once you have completed doing on page of your website , start it with off page

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ablife

15 years ago

No benchmark in my experience, build them from day one, then rinse and repeat until you're at the top spot. Focus on your top performing keywords and aim for a variety of links to those pages: different TLD's, articles, PR etc.

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hell0world

15 years ago

compared with "WHEN", I give more emphasis on "HOW"

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