Is Using Tools To Create Profiles Black Hat ?

by NiyazK

Posted: 15 years ago 20 replies

Hey People,

My question -

Is using automated tools like SeNuke , Sick Submitter etc to create profiles automatically considered blackhat as per the site ?
I am not talking about google rules but site rules

Like here -
Naruto Forums - Forum Rules [Nothing regarding automatic creations is written in the rules(Usually Default rules dont have that in VB)]

So what is your take on such creation of profiles on Vbulletin sites. Let me know.

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#black #create #hat #profiles #tools

Happy_Balance 15 years ago

Re: Automated tools (IMO)

Black-Hat:
"Yes", using those tools to Create Profiles is clearly Black Hat, IMO.

Grey-Hat:
Using something like iMacros for Firefox to help you get "more done/day" could be considered honest, if you are adding useful posts, and not spamming all those forums.

White-Hat:
If used honestly, iMacros and / or AHK are great tools to help you become a computer power-user.

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NiyazK

15 years ago

Why do you think its blackhat.. we dont break any rules of the site

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Happy_Balance

15 years ago

Originally Posted by NiyazK

Why do you think its BlueFart.. we dont break any rules of the site

It is possible (for example) to be extremely deceptive without actually lying. If the profiles are for SEO links, then you become just another search engine spammer.

Isn't is obvious the Net already has too much Spam?

Originally Posted by smartalex4

I think using practically any automatic program qualifies as BlueFart

I'll disagree w/ you too. :p
Macros, AHK, etc. are legit "power tools" if used honestly.
For some examples search for autohotkey on the LifeHacker website, or check the autohotkey forums.

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smartalex4

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Happy_Balance

It is possible (for example) to be extremely deceptive without actually lying. If the profiles are for SEO links, then you become just another search engine spammer.

Isn't is obvious the Net already has too much Spam?

I'll disagree w/ you too. :p
Macros, AHK, etc. are legit "power tools" if used honestly.
For some examples search for autohotkey on the LifeHacker website, or check the autohotkey forums.

I think the key phrase is "if used honestly".....but you are right.

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smartalex4 15 years ago

I think using practically any automatic program qualifies as Blackhat
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- Adie 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by smartalex4
  
  I think using practically any automatic program qualifies as BlueFart
  
  Roboform is not blackhat and I am using it on submitting articles faster than normal...
  
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Happy_Balance 15 years ago

Happy New Year, you smartalex
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coolseo 15 years ago

Automatic creation of profiles can not be considered as blackhat....creating all those profiles just to have your links and then forget those is blackhat.
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aaron_nimocks 15 years ago

It depends on who is going to define blackhat.

I personally define it as anything you do to try to deceive the search engines in order to raise your rank that adds no value to the internet as a whole.
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TrollFighter 15 years ago

It really depends on the types of linking you are doing. If the product or service you are engaging is relative to those forum conversations, then I say it's somewhat acceptable. There are many people out there (And they are very good SEO firms) that drop a ton of "spammish" quality content in areas they really aren't full engaged in. So everyone does their fare share of spamming. However overall, if at least your link are relative then it's not too awful.
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NiyazK

15 years ago

So whats the conclusion finally ? Black Hat ?

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affiliated survivor

15 years ago

Building links automatically, with the sole purpose of building links for better rankings, is a form of search engine manipulation and therefore not white hat. But that goes up for many link building techniques and even it´s not white hat, if done properly, you may get away with it.

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jacked

15 years ago

Originally Posted by affiliated survivor

Yea this guy is correct, all link building with the goal of trying to boost your rankings is black hat. White hat link building would be having amazing content so that others would like to your site just for that.

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halfpoint 15 years ago

Originally Posted by NiyazK

So whats the conclusion finally ? Black Hat ?

The conclusion is that black hat is a subjective term and there are no incorrect answers when defining it, as it's open to interpretation.

Personally, I don't consider profile links to be black hat, but that's just me.
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NiyazK 15 years ago

Can anyone tell what actually is natural link building and how do you achieve it
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- Happy_Balance 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by NiyazK
  
  Can anyone tell what actually is natural link building and how do you achieve it
  
  jacked has one great answer here:
  
  Originally Posted by jacked
  
  ...White hat link building would be having amazing content so that others would like to your site just for that.
  
  Some successful examples of amazing White-hat linking and buzz-building:
  
  One Red Paperclip
  
  User-created content sites (i.e. Wikipedia)
  
  Open-Source projects/communities
  
  Howard Dean 2004: Before the meltdown he went from little-known to front-runner.
  
  Justin B's mom posting his videos on YouTube starting over 4 years ago
  
  Firefox Browser!!!
  
  ^^^
  I could come up with a One-Of-A-Kind list w/ at least 25 more real, exciting examples of amazing White-hat linking and buzz-building.
  For your copy just be one of the first 10 people to PM me w/ an offer of at least $34.
  
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- faceblogger 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by NiyazK
  
  Can anyone tell what actually is natural link building and how do you achieve it
  
  Natural link building is Letting the site naturally get backlinks - Not doing any link building intentionally (But not possible for our websites)
  For example: Websites like facebook, amazon rank very high but they do no link building. They have natural links all over the Internet.
  
  But it's not possible for our websites - We have to build links anyway - However, it's not natural as we are trying to manipulate SERP!
  
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NiyazK 15 years ago

thats a funny answer
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- Happy_Balance 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by NiyazK
  
  thats a funny answer
  
  Thanks NiyazK,
  Humor mixed with the answer to your question:
  When jacked mentioned having amazing content so that others would like to visit your site just for that, I tried to think of some popular examples.
  
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NiyazK 15 years ago

pretty right said faceblogger.. There is not way we could build natural backlinks!
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