Does Backlinks still help on google

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Hello,

I a just wondering about this any help would be appreciated.Some one telling me this:

Thier are new search engine rules on how you get serp and traffic....The ONLY way to get a good search engine ranking position is by "On Page Optimizing", not linking ! < Is this true

I see a lot of traffic from backlinks but I would Like to know for sure.
#backlinks #google
  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    No it is not true.

    Google will always care about links.

    The only thing that has ever changed in that regard is that they currently ignore links that they perceive to have no value.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr.money411
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      No it is not true.

      Google will always care about links.

      The only thing that has ever changed in that regard is that they currently ignore links that they perceive to have no value.

      Thanks is what I thought but this person been a pain a bout it lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Ric_Worthy
    On page SEO amounts to only about 15% of factors which Google considers. Links are still king and links from high PR are still better. So are links from .edu.
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  • Profile picture of the author navyseal
    Yes it does help sometimes.

    When some one accidentally surfing on the internet and he captures his interest the way you write a comment and has a backlink to your site.

    That would be a big plus.
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  • Profile picture of the author officer_iron
    At this point in time backlinks still play a big part in the SERPS. It would be crazy if it was only about on-page SEO because a good deal of sites (at least the ones that knew what they were doing) would be very similar so it would be hard to distinguish what should be ranked higher.
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  • Profile picture of the author loganquinn
    Hey Mr.money411,

    Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

    Thier are new search engine rules on how you get serp and traffic....The ONLY way to get a good search engine ranking position is by "On Page Optimizing", not linking ! < Is this true

    I see a lot of traffic from backlinks but I would Like to know for sure.
    First off - which SE's are you talking about?

    In my experience, like the other people on this forum have said, Google ALWAYS favor backlinks over content. I own hundreds of sites ranked Number 1 for search terms with >1000 exact searches a month and between 100,000 - 250,000 exact match competing pages with nothing more than a few posts.

    In fact, I can honestly say some of them don't "deserve" to be there, it's just that I have more links than my competitors from higher quality sites. And I'm not complaining!

    Hope this helps!

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  • Profile picture of the author Ronny Kibet
    You need backlinks to rank better in google. quality backlinks. Onsite SEO is just a small portion of the whole process.
    But all in all Google still use backlinks in their ranking algorithm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt Abel
    You definitely still need backlinks. Onpage factors may mean that you need less of them to rank, but you definitely still need them.
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  • Profile picture of the author NMP
    There will always be people saying is not working. Is like if it's not working
    for them, it doesn't exist lol. The key with Backlinks is to get them indexed.

    High PR sites mean nothing unless your links get indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    That simply aint true. He has his facts wrong! In fact, backlinking is the top ranking factor at Google and other SE's.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterofinternate
    Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

    Hello,

    I a just wondering about this any help would be appreciated.Some one telling me this:

    Thier are new search engine rules on how you get serp and traffic....The ONLY way to get a good search engine ranking position is by "On Page Optimizing", not linking ! < Is this true

    I see a lot of traffic from backlinks but I would Like to know for sure.
    I think backlinks are the vital elements in the eyes of Google. But of course the quality and high page ranked backlinks. Quality Backlinks pushes your site towards high PR. On page optimization is an important part of generating traffic and also making good links. So I don't think that backlinks are ignorable.
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  • Profile picture of the author juliapattrick
    Its not possible.to give a traffic to your site you will have to give a strong backlinks.just on page optimizing will never help you in bringing large traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author SamirSM
      Of course!

      You might not see the results immediately, but if you monitor the views and clicks through Google Webmaster Tools, I'm sure you'll notice the difference backlinks make.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by juliapattrick View Post

      Its not possible.to give a traffic to your site you will have to give a strong backlinks.just on page optimizing will never help you in bringing large traffic.
      I have seen people rank with 0 back links. Not the norm though.

      But yes, back links are very important. Whether the search engines gave credit or not, they are still a major key for traffic. BUT THEY DO COUNT TOWARDS RANK! So tell your friend or whoever, to.... nevermind I might get banned for that
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  • Profile picture of the author derrickschwan
    I think in order to get high position Google you must a proper and competent on-page optimization and of course a proper linkbuilding campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author danoctav
    There are keywords with no or low competition for which just on-page optimization is enough to rank well. But without linkbuilding is impossible to get a higher position for keywords with some competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author Oggyoi
      Originally Posted by danoctav View Post

      There are keywords with no or low competition for which just on-page optimization is enough to rank well. But without linkbuilding is impossible to get a higher position for keywords with some competition.
      Sounds a sensible input does this, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author OpticalOut
    Hahahaha!

    Did you just read that garbage that Shoemoney was going on about? Sorry to hear about it.

    He's full of it. Don't believe a word that he said in that video. I think he was actually drunk.

    But...

    Do take a look at this forum and others for a lot of good SEO information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Saradhaseo
    Post a search engine optimization has become one of the most important aspects. Post, within Links.Backlinks known as a huge indicator of the popularity of the page that often, and to determine where the page will rank in search engines are one of the most important factors.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Jones
      What I have been reading lately - google does care a lot about backlinks. Some say that creating backlinks is the number one method in trying to increase the trafic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wiggy0618
    When you think about it from a conceptual standpoint, backlinks *have* to be an important factor. The original reason why google put emphasis on backlinks in the first place was that it (google) felt that if a lot of people were linking back to a particular site/page, that must mean that it had good content, was useful or popular, etc.

    Now, we know that's not always the case now, as us IMers build backlinks like mofos artificially.

    But for google to discount backlinks all together, they would (in essence) be saying that it didn't matter why anybody ever posted a link to a site, and would throw the original idea of why backlinks were important in the first place out the window.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Barton
      Originally Posted by Wiggy0618 View Post

      When you think about it from a conceptual standpoint, backlinks *have* to be an important factor. The original reason why google put emphasis on backlinks in the first place was that it (google) felt that if a lot of people were linking back to a particular site/page, that must mean that it had good content, was useful or popular, etc.

      Now, we know that's not always the case now, as us IMers build backlinks like mofos artificially.

      But for google to discount backlinks all together, they would (in essence) be saying that it didn't matter why anybody ever posted a link to a site, and would throw the original idea of why backlinks were important in the first place out the window.
      Absolutely. Plus, backlinks are one of the few factors that is not completely controlled by the website owner.

      Backlinks will always matter, the only thing that will change is how search engine value each type of link.
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  • Profile picture of the author craigcdz
    yes backlinks still do help to increase your serps.

    Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

    Hello,

    I a just wondering about this any help would be appreciated.Some one telling me this:

    Thier are new search engine rules on how you get serp and traffic....The ONLY way to get a good search engine ranking position is by "On Page Optimizing", not linking ! < Is this true

    I see a lot of traffic from backlinks but I would Like to know for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author JacksSmith
    No, the back links are important for Google. If you get good do follow back link from other resource then your link will be crawled by Google which helps your ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author jones1982
    Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

    Hello,

    I a just wondering about this any help would be appreciated.Some one telling me this:

    Thier are new search engine rules on how you get serp and traffic....The ONLY way to get a good search engine ranking position is by "On Page Optimizing", not linking ! < Is this true

    I see a lot of traffic from backlinks but I would Like to know for sure.
    Not true my friend. Google & others search engine still count quality backlinks. So work on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author carrenting
      Well, for getting good search engine ranking not only on page but off page optimization is also important
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  • Profile picture of the author Watch Store
    backlinking is very important
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  • Profile picture of the author accelerator_dd
    Backlinks in general are very important since they are the only way to track popularity. How would they know if a site is hot if nobody talks about it.

    This is where diversity comes into play. They can track spam if all the links are from one kind (profiles, articles, videos) only
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  • Profile picture of the author khenmhike
    Backlinks is one of the main foundation of a website. That means backlinks are very important.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Of course backlinks are still important. Always will be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamie Drew
    Originally Posted by alysemackie View Post

    I think creating back links is still very effective and can surely give good result in SERP.
    Hi guys, sorry about this, but I'm a noob and still learning all these terminologies... can someone explain "SERP" to me, please?

    Thanks,

    Jamie D

    P.S. this thread rocks, good to have a bit of clarity that link are alive and kicking.
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  • Profile picture of the author fba
    Links are the "builders" of the WWW. So, forget what you´ve heard and start your backlinking strategy!
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  • Profile picture of the author muftdagyan
    I don't think google can judge only by on page matter which site to rank first in page and which site to rank last.So backlinks is the main factors which determine the position of your site for specific keyword.
    yes now google don't count the links that are irrelevant to the content and the link present in sidebar and comment sections.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahesh2010
    Originally Posted by Mr.money411 View Post

    Hello,

    I a just wondering about this any help would be appreciated.Some one telling me this:

    Thier are new search engine rules on how you get serp and traffic....The ONLY way to get a good search engine ranking position is by "On Page Optimizing", not linking ! < Is this true

    I see a lot of traffic from backlinks but I would Like to know for sure.
    Hello ,
    back links are more important they form main point for promoting our site and our site to be ranked in Google and also provide visitors to our site
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Lowe
    Hi,

    Backlinks are important but it’s not the quantity of links, it’s the quality and how they link to you.

    Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author esquiree
    Backlinks will be always important. But it is not good idea to have backlinks from rubbish websites i think
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  • Profile picture of the author Owen Smith
    No no no no no, you need the following:

    h1 tag
    h2 tag
    and h3 if possible
    3-6% keyword density.
    alt image tags help
    a link to an external source

    And as many backlinks as you can get pointing towards your site!
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