What is a good page rank?

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar

Getting links from pr 5 or pr6 sites will increase your PR.

There's no such thing as a "PR-5 site" or a "PR-6 site".

Sites don't have page-rank. Pages have page-rank.

Try submitting an article to a directory whose home-page happens to be PR-5: your article (just like mine) doesn't go on its home-page; it goes on a PR-0 page. Don't imagine you're getting a "PR-5 backlink".

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jmbinfo

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

There's no such thing as a "PR-5 site" or a "PR-6 site".

Sites don't have page-rank. Pages have page-rank.

Try submitting an article to a directory whose home-page happens to be PR-5: your article (just like mine) doesn't go on its home-page; it goes on a PR-0 page. Don't imagine you're getting a "PR-5 backlink".

I disagree with this...not in the sense that the page you are on is a PR-0 and not a PR-5 but that the PR-5 of the homepage doesn't impact the page's PR-0 value. With that logic if the NYTimes.com does a story on you that is on a PR-0 page then it isn't worth that much when in fact it is worth more, in some cases, than hundreds of links. PR is a measure of a website's authority as interpreted by Google. Google isn't saying that they only "like" the homepage. They are saying they like the website. You can prove this by building a site with many pages, getting backlinks, watching your PR rise to PR4, deleting all pages except for the homepage and watching your PR slowly fall over time. You didn't remove any backlinks. Instead, you removed the pages that make up the value of the whole website.

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dburk

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jmbinfo

I disagree with this...not in the sense that the page you are on is a PR-0 and not a PR-5 but that the PR-5 of the homepage doesn't impact the page's PR-0 value. With that logic if the NYTimes.com does a story on you that is on a PR-0 page then it isn't worth that much when in fact it is worth more, in some cases, than hundreds of links. PR is a measure of a website's authority as interpreted by Google. Google isn't saying that they only "like" the homepage. They are saying they like the website. You can prove this by building a site with many pages, getting backlinks, watching your PR rise to PR4, deleting all pages except for the homepage and watching your PR slowly fall over time. You didn't remove any backlinks. Instead, you removed the pages that make up the value of the whole website.

Hi jmbinfo,

I believe you are very wrong on this. The PageRank algorithm was published even before Google was launched as a commercial enterprise. Google still uses that algorithm as the basis for PR and very little has changed in PR calculations. Your post indicates you have never studied or understood how PR is calculated.

Assuming "authority" for the sake of this discussion is PR, sites don't have authority, the individual pages of the website may. You will never receive any benefit from homepage PR unless that page somehow links to your page. PR is passed from page to page and the "site" or "domain" has no impact on how PR is calculated. I challenge you to point to the math within the PR formula that observes anything outside the scope of links pointing to individual pages.

Your method to "prove" you point actually counters rather than proves it. If those other "pages" you are deleting weren't passing PR to the homepage why would the homepage PR drop? Pages pass PR, not sites.

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wpgwalt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

There's no such thing as a "PR-5 site" or a "PR-6 site".

Sites don't have page-rank. Pages have page-rank.

Try submitting an article to a directory whose home-page happens to be PR-5: your article (just like mine) doesn't go on its home-page; it goes on a PR-0 page. Don't imagine you're getting a "PR-5 backlink".

Alexa is bang on with this

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funkybabeone 15 years ago

Google has given rank to every website it start from 0 to 10. Its only depend on links which you get from other sites and google give page rank according to it.
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BeachDude

15 years ago

Page Rank is 100% mathmatics. It has everything to do with how many outbound links a page ranked page has. “PR Passed = Total PR/(# of Total DOFOLLOW Links).”

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PaulMark

15 years ago

Not real sure how much weight to put on PR. What are the thoughts on it having real value versus it being more of a vanity thing? Anyone done any testing on how significant it is in relation to ranking or SEO in general? Or maybe the better question would be is there really any weight - via testing - to having a link from a higher PR page?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by PaulMark

Or maybe the better question would be is there really any weight - via testing - to having a link from a higher PR page?

There's undeniably some, yes.

Nobody's sure to what extent (many just pretend to be). Search engines don't want anyone to be sure, do they?

My own experience, reading, research and testing (such as it is) lead me to believe firmly that whether or not links are context-relevant is far more important. I know, for example, that a backlink from a decent blog/site on the same subject as my own is typically worth about as much link-juice as several thousand backlinks from off-context PR-0 article directory pages. And I say that as an article marketer.

One thing's for sure: once people switch from a "quantity approach" to building backlinks to a "quality approach", they don't switch back.

Page-rank is one of many factors that contribute toward rankings. (My own opinion is that it's not nearly as important as many people believe, but I can't prove that any more than anyone else can prove the opposite).

It's certainly possible to outrank pages of higher PR, in Google's SERP's, anyway. This much I do know with certainty, having done so many times.

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PaulMark

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

One thing's for sure: once people switch from a "quantity approach" to building backlinks to a "quality approach", they don't switch back.

Page-rank is one of many factors that contribute toward rankings. (My own opinion is that it's not nearly as important as many people believe, but I can't prove that any more than anyone else can prove the opposite).

100% with ya on this. These are my thoughts/opinions as well.

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SamyPong 15 years ago

Hello,

Based on my experienced PR 5 and above are pretty cool and proven because it rank's 1 in every keyword i post.

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pethanks

15 years ago

For me, if you can reach PR 5 then that is good already. But of course each of us has its own standard.

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clickbumped

15 years ago

PR 4 homepage and up is a good thing to aspire to. This is like the "threshold" in my opinion for PR. I can hit PR 3 with sh*t links but hitting a PR 4 means people are linking to me from their homepages and blogrolls and stuff like that. Other than that, if I want to make a PR 4 or higher for myself, I'll need to build thousands upon thousands of crap links to my site or write thousands of articles. A site with PR 4 homepage will get crawled a lot, and it's inner pages can rank well with minimal linking.

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derrickschwan

15 years ago

Having high page rank is very important as it shows you quality of websites that are linking to your webpage. but this is not our main as an SEO first you need to build a unique website with great content. Then you must start getting backlinks from websites that are best quality! The best quality websites are marked by Google with good PageRank. Just a few high PR websites pointing to your page are a way better in building good SERPs that a hundred of spammy PageRank 0 backlinks.

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peterbarmars

15 years ago

The influence of search results still depend on appropriate optimization and backlinks. As a location hand, it allows only a small part of what search engines are looking for.

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careerguidance143

15 years ago

Page ranks are totally depends on the obtained links.

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hilhilginger 15 years ago

Originally Posted by careerguidance143

Page ranks are totally depends on the obtained links.

You are referring to back links; I guess. But it involves more than that. If you make 1000 of back links in short period and you will not be benefited to hit good PR.
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charu.seo

15 years ago

page rank matters but pr is not everything..pr0 sites also hv good traffic n hv good links...concentrate on quality link building...

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craigcdz

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar

the meter is from 1 to 10 but i always thought a pr of 1 is good. I guess 10 is the max. Getting links from pr 5 or pr6 sites will increase your PR.

PR 3 to 10 are consider as good page rank.

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Aki Fagno 15 years ago

Originally Posted by craigcdz

PR 3 to 10 are consider as good page rank.

If you reach PR 5 that's already a thumbs up!
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sameguide

15 years ago

page rank is the rank of your website in search engines.higher page ranks mean higher probability to get visitors.if you want to get good page rank to your site then you can try to build more back links from high page rank sites which must be relevant to your site niche.

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mattlaclear

15 years ago

I for the life of me cannot figure out why anyone pays attention to page rank. The only rank that matters is the rankings in the serps. Same goes with backlink counts. Pay attention to what matters the most and you will achieve what matters the most. You always hit what you're aiming for I guess.

Now we own a blog network of over 2000 sites all with private registration and separate c class ip's. We also took great care to remove any blatant footprints from the sites as well.

What we do is submit a spun article with embedded backlinks to a random 40% of our network. We then send that same article out via other directories, wpmu's etc to further hide our footprints.

What we have found is that even a pr0 site on a .info domain can generate huge amounts of link juice.

Plus most folks make a huge mistake when seeking out high pr backlinks. For instance the Warrior Forum is a PR5 site. But that doesn't mean our sig files get credit for that rating. Mainly because the only page that is a PR5 page here on the forum is the index page. So if your backlink is not on the index page of the pr5 site then you might as well treat that backlink as if it were coming from a PR0 site.

And that is something you can take to the bank if you're smart enough.

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dburk

15 years ago

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

Plus most folks make a huge mistake when seeking out high pr backlinks. For instance the Warrior Forum is a PR5 site. But that doesn't mean our sig files get credit for that rating. Mainly because the only page that is a PR5 page here on the forum is the index page. So if your backlink is not on the index page of the pr5 site then you might as well treat that backlink as if it were coming from a PR0 site.

Hi mattlaclear,

I agree with your sentiment, and you made a good argument for the "page" having PR while the "site" does not.

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Aussie_Al 15 years ago

Originally Posted by mattlaclear

I for the life of me cannot figure out why anyone pays attention to page rank. The only rank that matters is the rankings in the serps.

Well said Matt - I have some sites that are page Rank 0 but make more money for me then some that are PR 4
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  Originally Posted by Aussie_Al
  
  Well said Matt - I have some sites that are page Rank 0 but make more money for me then some that are PR 4
  
  I agree with this point similar with one of my site.well in last six months one of my site was pr2 and sended good amount traffic and now it is pr1 and the traffic was deducted to half.
  
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HorseStall

15 years ago

A page that has a PR 6 is what I consider good.

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HostingAden 15 years ago

I agree, webpage with 6 PR requires good number of quality backlinks
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edricwage

15 years ago

For me, PR 5 to 10 is pretty good enough.

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arnoldchouhan

15 years ago

Best Page Rank is 3 to 6.

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greatseoservice

15 years ago

PR are from 1 to 10, google has ten, facebook has 9
You should focus on PR if you want to sell the site. If you want ranking focus on your position in google.

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SamyPong

15 years ago

The best quality websites are marked by Google with good PageRank. Just a few high PR websites pointing to your page are a way better..

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shuvo

15 years ago

Forget about page rank and concentrate on content.If want good page rank then work on content again and make more relevant backlinks as much as you can.

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SEO Agency

15 years ago

If I can reach PR 4 or 5 then that would be good, but I am not longing on it, I want is the better positioning of my keyword on the serp and the increase of the traffic of my site.

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jonnyhardbaked

15 years ago

Having a high PR is good because it will serve as your reward after exerting efforts in optimising your site.

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yukon

Banned 15 years ago

I always try to keep my PR around PR11.

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dburk 15 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I always try to keep my PR around PR11.

LOL, Can I get a link exchange from one of your PR11 pages please?
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highave1

15 years ago

Google page rank algorithm is not so complicated but it's mathematical. It's 0 to 10 according to google meter. It's calculate according to Inbound/ back links (do follow or no follow) or out bound links as well.

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dagaul101

15 years ago

An excellent PR for the likes of Google, or Facebook is 10

, but 3 and above is ok for many folks

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kumar125

15 years ago

Google page rank algorithm is mathematical system. So according to me PR4 to PR7 is the best page ranking. PR7 is the good ranking.

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StoneWilson

15 years ago

Since the day before yesterday my new blog got PR2, now I don't know how to handle with PR, because I never thought my blog will gain PR2 in less than 6 months.

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thomastom682

15 years ago

10 is good page rank. PR is based on google.com.

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DavidWincent

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar

the meter is from 1 to 10 but i always thought a pr of 1 is good. I guess 10 is the max. Getting links from pr 5 or pr6 sites will increase your PR.

There is no any mention as such for a good PR value, higher the PR is always good. It all depends upon how competitive you niche market is? However for a very competitive niche, a PR 2-3 is considered good, but it doesn't mean that is all. As already mentioned, getting backlinks from a high PR site doesn't matters much, it's the PR of the web page you are getting the backlink from which matters.

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enni

Banned 15 years ago

Google has given the rank from 0 to 10 to very website and 10 is the highest page rank and it is good for your site. I think Page rank from 5 to 10 is good.

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masspingtool

15 years ago

pr9..try to use profile link with google profile

and creating blogspot account then visible your account with main site of yours

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Targeted Traffic

15 years ago

PageRank is important, but it certainly is not worth obsessing over and at times it has become irrelevant; there are many other factors involved in website ranking that should be given nearly equal consideration. In addition, simply building a good website is the best thing you can do to attract visitors, even without a great PageRank. PageRank, however, will likely follow – consider it a welcomed byproduct of your hard work.

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ravi2011

15 years ago

pr-5 to 10 is the best

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Marketing Ignite

15 years ago

I would say anything over 4 is good. However its on a logarithm scale so its not 1-10 but with decimals..However those are not visible of course (only to google)

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ritmix

14 years ago

If you wanna get good pagerank from first, you must start to get your link from hight PR website. Its main reason.

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DPM70

14 years ago

Umm why bother digging this up again? Is that main reason?

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freelancecopywriter

14 years ago

According to me as we get more pr for our website that is more beneficial for us.

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dbwebdesignz

14 years ago

A good PageRank is PR of 10. <-- Ask a silly question and you will get a silly answer.

However i know its been said but you must check the exact page your links are going on and not on a new page that is created for your link or that will become a PR0

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