Looks like google changed algorithm to kill xrummer and scrapebox

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For those who build their rankings using xrumer, scrapebox and bookmarking. Looks like google has changed their algorithm to penalize these sort of backlinks.


Any other warrior saw any changes in their rankings since yesterday? They were talking about this for a while. I think a huge algorithm change has been done . As original coders of google are in, i expect to see lot of algorithm changes in 2011.

Can someone confirm huge google dance or any other abnormal activity in their rankings since yesterday?

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    I haven't noticed any changes from blog comment links. Most appear to be 'nofollowed' in one method or another anyway.

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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    Originally Posted by ankur sharma View Post

    For those who build their rankings using xrumer, scrapebox and bookmarking. Looks like google has changed their algorithm to penalize these sort of backlinks.


    Any other warrior saw any changes in their rankings since yesterday? They were talking about this for a while. I think a huge algorithm change has been done . As original coders of google are in, i expect to see lot of algorithm changes in 2011.

    Can someone confirm huge google dance or any other abnormal activity in their rankings since yesterday?

    Thanks

    I was under the impression that the algo was changed on january 26th.. yesterday i had higher than usually impressions and visitors (about 10%) it could be an anaomally or things might have changed.
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  • Profile picture of the author 82ana
    No changes for me yet, but my main site did jump 30 places for its top keyword (very competitive) so that might be something.

    Do you have a link to an article or an official announcement about this? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    I said this before a couple times: it looks PT Google is some sort of "crash test dummy" and usually I see some trends over here that get reflected a couple weeks/months later in G.com.

    Said that, as I type, our network sites that NEVER got any "special automated help" are ranking higher then ever - they really got a tremendous push.

    On the other side, sites are ranking normally.

    I'll check next weeks if there is another local change.
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  • Profile picture of the author rammonster
    yep, some of my site's sank while other sites rose up...hasn't affected me much thou....just a few positions lower...nothing some decent links cant fix
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  • Profile picture of the author kangen
    Originally Posted by ankur sharma View Post

    For those who build their rankings using xrumer, scrapebox and bookmarking. Looks like google has changed their algorithm to penalize these sort of backlinks.


    Any other warrior saw any changes in their rankings since yesterday? They were talking about this for a while. I think a huge algorithm change has been done . As original coders of google are in, i expect to see lot of algorithm changes in 2011.

    Can someone confirm huge google dance or any other abnormal activity in their rankings since yesterday?

    Thanks
    i have noticed it and it's like a bad news for all the people who were doing it . let's look forward and see what happens .
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    I've been watching certain sites (not mine!) that reached #1 google through comment spam (identical comment body) and forum (profile page link, garbage username) spam. I just checked, yup they are still #1... 3 years and going strong.

    Sites in question were experimental sites that rank for completely obscure keyphrases - and they're spammy as heck. They don't have any competitors trying to take them down, so its instructive... I'm watching them like canaries in coal mines

    So I'd say it's more likely webmasters filed a spam complaint. It's kinda stupid to post junk comments on others' sites, it annoys them. But even more it gives your competitors a way to get rid of you overnight, all they have to do is tattle tale and you're gone.

    Also, rankings always move around. A site that links to you might delete the page, or lose link juice, new links might get found, etc.

    One thing I am seeing though very recently, a number of sites in the top 10 serps that have really crap link profiles compared to the other sites in the top 10. I'm like "huh? what is that friggin' yelp page doing ranking #6 for a massive keyword like 'diamond'... in amongst pages with 1000's of inbound links... with only 4 links to it from other domains???"

    Seems G is maybe working on including some sites for reasons other than their link profile. Hmm... yelp page in question is for a diamond store in SF, in other words local to me. I think google is mixing up the top 10 - not just including top ranking sites but also a few local results, as well as the images and shopping ones we all know about. A.
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  • Profile picture of the author Myheavens
    Many People are seeing the change n there is certainly a big algo change as many people are shouting.. There is a big thread going just about this Issue : Read here : Lower Ranking ?
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  • Profile picture of the author hezell1989
    Seems like its still the same for me aswell. Ill post here though if anything changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author seolearner09
    Originally Posted by ankur sharma View Post

    For those who build their rankings using xrumer, scrapebox and bookmarking. Looks like google has changed their algorithm to penalize these sort of backlinks.
    Say if you build forum profile links manually? Are you still penalized etc?

    I don't see any difference between manually building forum links or using Xrumer for a blast. They are all still indexed over a few months or so.

    How can big G tell the difference between a forum profile done manually or an automated blast by say Xrumer?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
      Originally Posted by seolearner09 View Post

      Say if you build forum profile links manually? Are you still penalized etc?

      I don't see any difference between manually building forum links or using Xrumer for a blast. They are all still indexed over a few months or so.

      How can big G tell the difference between a forum profile done manually or an automated blast by say Xrumer?
      My guess is that it would be the volume of profile links. Anyone automating the process would have several thousand in a short period of time, where as manual creations would be several hundred or a thousand over months or years. To me, that would be the easiest way of weeding out the automaters. Then again, I am not on the Google Algorithm team for a reason.
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      • Profile picture of the author seolearner09
        Originally Posted by theseoguys View Post

        My guess is that it would be the volume of profile links. Anyone automating the process would have several thousand in a short period of time, where as manual creations would be several hundred or a thousand over months or years. To me, that would be the easiest way of weeding out the automaters. Then again, I am not on the Google Algorithm team for a reason.
        Good point.

        However, if you use an automated tool like Xrumer 'properly', then it can be very dificult to tell the difference. You can have a blast of say around 5000 forum links to various PR0 - PR6+ forums, and these would be gradually indexed over serveral weeks plus.

        Now, if you go crazy and do one blast after the other (tens of thousands of links), and then start pinging them, try to index them yourself blah blah blah, then maybe the links may get devalued or not carry any weight etc.
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        • Right now results are really all over the place, from people getting higher rankings, people seeing no increases, others losing a few spots and then some that completely vanished from the top 1000. There are several factors and it's definitely not as easy to say as "profile links stopped working" or the like. Others reported similar results that only built blog comments or articles so the verdict is definitely not out yet. Probably it's just the webspam team having some fun.
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          • Profile picture of the author JimFromNY
            I use Xrumer and I have not seen any changes- the opposite actually, as my service has a great way of using these links.
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            • Profile picture of the author ExploringInfinity
              Doesn't this same post come up every week ?

              Keep building your links, don't worry about the algorithms, just build diverse sets of links. Couple that with GOOD CONTENT, and you win.
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