Squidoo or Hub Pages

15 years ago

Probably Squidoo - but much of a muchness, why not use both? Hubpages I've found get indexed a bit quicker but I prefer the layout and dashboard, etc of Squidoo.

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CyberSorcerer

15 years ago

Squidoo and Hubpages are just social sites period!

They have absolutely nothing to do with improving your click-through rate. It's your article, writing, call-to-action, etc that has to do with whether a visitor clicks on your links or not.

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Kristen Osborn

15 years ago

I use Squidoo simply because you can put way more affiliate links throughout your content. HubPages has too many rules - you can only put one (or maybe two) links in your content and you can't be obvious or blatantly send anyone to your website at the end - ex: "For more info, visit www.example.com". (At least that's my understanding of the rules.) I love Squidoo!

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Originally Posted by InternetMarketingBusiness

Both are useful ONLY for link building or passing the link juice to my money site.

I completely agree with this. I have no plans to use either for any other purpose: I can't own or control them, so they have a very limited role to play in my business.
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BillWynne 15 years ago

Originally Posted by InternetMarketingBusiness

Both are useful ONLY for link building or passing the link juice to my money site.

This is a good point although some people will use these sites as the money site since they already have the PR and authority. Then you would backlink to your lens. Of course you lose it all if they ever go away or sell out.

Just 2cents worth...

I agree with the former but the later is an interesting concept. I know that is something to do with an Ezine Article.
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schttrj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Giftys

Which have you guys had better results from regarding click through traffic?

To your question,

I believe that Squidoo will have a better CTR. Why? Because you can add MORE obvious and MORE in number call-for-action links in Squidoo

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Bruce NewMedia

15 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

To your question,
I believe that Squidoo will have a better CTR. Why? Because you can add MORE obvious and MORE in number call-for-action links in Squidoo

I just don't see it that way at all.

Having lots of BIG LINKS means very little..and neither does having MORE of them.

if that were true then these pages littered with giant flashing BUTTONS would be goldmines for the site owner/affiliate....and I think most of us know they are not.

To me, its 'Content And Connection' that cause clicks.

Content that informs the visitor of something they didn't know, and doing it in a way that makes an emotional connection. If you do that right, you can have the tiniest link and still get big CTRs.
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schttrj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by brucerby

I just don't see it that way at all.

Having lots of BIG LINKS means very little..and neither does having MORE of them.

if that were true then these pages littered with giant flashing BUTTONS would be goldmines for the site owner/affiliate....and I think most of us know they are not.

To me, its 'Content And Connection' that cause clicks.

Content that informs the visitor of something they didn't know, and doing it in a way that makes an emotional connection. If you do that right, you can have the tiniest link and still get big CTRs.
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Of course, I agree with the "Content and Connection" part.

But, if you look at any good sales copy, you will see that the call-to-action button is actually placed multiple times in the page.

Now there's a reason behind that.

It's actually capturing the audience at the right moment.

For Hubpages, you can only insert TWO links. That works for a short hub, which will NOT convert that much.

But for a long hub with multiple modules, it will rather be hard for you to channelizing the audience at the right time.

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Bruce NewMedia

15 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

Of course, I agree with the "Content and Connection" part.

But, if you look at any good sales copy, you will see that the call-to-action button is actually placed multiple times in the page.

You're probably right in the case of Squidoo where its fairly restricting what you can do...(and I can see your point)
however, there are actually many outstanding sales letters online that have exactly one, or at MOST, 2 links to the order page. Take a look at "Fat Loss For Idiots", as just one example that comes to mind.

It has been one of the top selling CLBK products for a long time. I find adding more links to sales pages can convey desperation. (which I do not want to convey)...YMMV.
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schttrj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by brucerby

You're probably right in the case of Squidoo where its fairly restricting what you can do...(and I can see your point)
however, there are actually many outstanding sales letters online that have exactly one, or at MOST, 2 links to the order page. Take a look at "Fat Loss For Idiots", as just one example that comes to mind.

It has been one of the top selling CLBK products for a long time. I find adding more links to sales pages can convey desperation. (which I do not want to convey)...YMMV.
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Affmz

15 years ago

social sites are still good for building linkwheel

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ahmadferi 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Affmz

social sites are still good for building linkwheel

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  like what you mean?
  
  He means writing articles on web 2.0 sites like these, then placing backlinks to your money site or other articles in them. You pass on link juice from page to page then finally to your money site. You can use programs like scrapebox to blast these articles and pass on even more link juice without worrying about your money site being penalized for spam.
  
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DeborahDera

15 years ago

I use them both.

Originally Posted by Giftys

Which have you guys had better results from regarding click through traffic?

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15 years ago

Thanks everyone!

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15 years ago

Squidoo is much better to attain the targeted traffic

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15 years ago

Squidoo is so much more fun and a very good source for traffic.

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wolfmmiii

15 years ago

I drive traffic from both to sites of mine. I do feel that HubPages ranks better though.

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Andrea Wilson

15 years ago

I like Hubpages better than squidoo. I get better clicks with them than squidoo. But your situation can be different, so try to use both of them.

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indiatext

15 years ago

in my personal opinion you should go for hubpages. It has given me comparatively better results...

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Giftys

15 years ago

It seems like it's 50/50. As usual, no one can agree on anything. Reminds me of my government. Ha!

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Mike McAleer

15 years ago

Squidoo is awesome. I have even made some money selling Amazon/ebay products through squidoo. It is great and ranks well in Google.

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15 years ago

I have many hubs and lenses. In general I seem to get better results with Squidoo. However, I would advise using both if possible.

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15 years ago

I've had better results from HubPages, but I definitely use both for any important backlinking I'm doing.

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15 years ago

I will go for squidoo, its already proven.

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schttrj 15 years ago

Originally Posted by DIGITALCHAMELEON

I will go for squidoo, its already proven.

Who, where, why and how?!
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DavidJeff

15 years ago

my vote is for hubpgaes as its giving me best result and strong backlinks, and there are less spammers on hubpages

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ashSimpson87

15 years ago

Squidoo is much more okay. Very user friendly rather than hub pages which is too complicated to use. But try to use both. They are still very helpful.

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15 years ago

Squidoo is my favorite I've been using it for two years now with great results.

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Sunnybeach7

15 years ago

Squidoo would be better if you are only going to use one, due to the different options for your links (black boxes, etc.) and also because hubpages only allows you to put a maximum of two links on each hub...and for that, they lace the hub with lots of other advertisements.

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15 years ago

I prefer squidoo its better for traffic and even its dofollow

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x3xsolxdierx3x 15 years ago

Originally Posted by mrhenzy

Squidoo and Hubpages are just social sites period!

Not entirely sure what you mean by this. They aren't JUST social sites. In practice and in definition, they are much more.
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by canhdong90

I have a stupid question: I create my hub, and when I publish it, This hub said "This hub has been submitted for publication, and will be published once it has been reviewed by the administrator" ,(some hubs before,I didn't see it).How long to get publish? Even though I still get views.

That's because you are submitting overly promotional blogs. Check the Hubpages FAQ.

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duncanmacgibbon

15 years ago

Squidoo is the best option because you can put way more links throughout your content pointing back to your sites.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by duncanmacgibbon

Squidoo is the best option because you can put way more links throughout your content pointing back to your sites.

Yes, until you abuse it and it ends up getting slapped and loosing authority again.

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Rikki_Fawkes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by duncanmacgibbon

Squidoo is the best option because you can put way more links throughout your content pointing back to your sites.

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Yes, until you abuse it and it ends up getting slapped and loosing authority again.

I like Squidoo, too, but Howie's right, you need to go easy on the links. I've made some sales by linking articles to Squidoo and onto an affiliate using the One Week Marketing program, but I certainly don't base even 10% of my online business through Squidoo. I like having control of my own pages.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

15 years ago

Thanks for backing me up on that Rikki,

That's the kind of behavior that guys like Seth Godin have to constantly combat. (err...owner of Squidoo)

Originally Posted by Rikki_Fawkes

I like Squidoo, too, but Howie's right, you need to go easy on the links. I've made some sales by linking articles to Squidoo and onto an affiliate using the One Week Marketing program, but I certainly don't base even 10% of my online business through Squidoo. I like having control of my own pages.

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Rikki_Fawkes 15 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Thanks for backing me up on that Rikki,

That's the kind of behavior that guys like Seth Godin have to constantly combat. (err...owner of Squidoo)

I made this mistake when I was a noob. I put plenty of valuable content into the lens, but didn't know how many links I was allowed, so I kind of went hog wild. Then I was confused when my lens still showed up as not being featured on Squidoo. I put two and two together real quick.
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wolfmmiii

15 years ago

Given the recent Google changes that are currently significantly affecting sites like HubPages and other content farms, it might be a largely moot point.

Time to get familiar with PPC.

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vilnwv

15 years ago

I have had much more success with Squidoo than I have ever had with Hub. As ststed in this thread I feel it is due to the fact that Squidoo is so much less restrictive. Just on a personal note I have much more fun building lenses than hubs and maybe that just shows through in my writing...who knows. Anyway use both like many have said before to link to your main money site

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Michael Lee

15 years ago

I'm getting better results with squidoo and have much more lens than hubs.

However, they are both loved by the search engines and I would recommend using both of them (and other content-sharing sites like Qassia, RedGage, Bukisa, etc.), as we don't want to put all our eggs in the same basket.

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Rikki_Fawkes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Lee

I'm getting better results with squidoo and have much more lens than hubs.

However, they are both loved by the search engines and I would recommend using both of them (and other content-sharing sites like Qassia, RedGage, Bukisa, etc.), as we don't want to put all our eggs in the same basket.

What are you linking to in Bukisa? Last I checked they disallowed self-serving links of any kind, even if it went to a your own website and not a direct aff link.

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Andrei

15 years ago

If I want to rank for a keyword on first page of Google should I just build more backlinks to my lenses and hubs? I mean ranking a page on Squidoo or Hub Pages are the same like ranking a website?
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15 years ago

Both are good for backlinks and passive adsense/impression based income. But you need to diversify and not put all the eggs in one basket.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Giftys

Which have you guys had better results from regarding click through traffic?

I've found that I get a lot more traffic in general with Squidoo and tend to have a higher CTR from these pages.

I believe it is because of the type of crowd that it attracts, but more importantly because it allows for much more variety of HTML and CSS, which means that creative use of colors and style can increase the disire to click on a link, especially an image.

You can do nearly as much on HubPages. Very simplistic design...but it is nice too.

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15 years ago

Squidoo is pretty good. I haven't tried hub pages yet.

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x3xsolxdierx3x

15 years ago

Originally Posted by sarahberra

Squidoo is pretty good. I haven't tried hub pages yet.

I've heard of great success stories at both places. I began by writing alot for Squidoo. I made an account at HubPages, but I just haven't gotten around to contributing like I'd like to.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

I've heard of great success stories at both places. I began by writing alot for Squidoo. I made an account at HubPages, but I just haven't gotten around to contributing like I'd like to.

I've found Hubpages to be pickier than Squidoo in some ways - especially with links, duplicate content (which I believe they still allow, they just have to "like" it, I guess.). I don't like the layout as well at Hubpages, either, but that's not to say it doesn't work.

Personally, you're probably not missing out on too much, as I much prefer Squidoo. But I could be wrong.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Rikki_Fawkes

I've found Hubpages to be pickier than Squidoo in some ways - especially with links, duplicate content (which I believe they still allow, they just have to "like" it, I guess.). I don't like the layout as well at Hubpages, either, but that's not to say it doesn't work.

Personally, you're probably not missing out on too much, as I much prefer Squidoo. But I could be wrong.

Based on what I've seen Google do recently, "picky" isn't necessarily a bad thing. The sites that best control for quality will win.

HubPages is a great site with a great community, but, whenever I sit down to write there, I don't know...I just don't feel 'comfortable' there.

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Rikki_Fawkes 15 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

HubPages is a great site with a great community, but, whenever I sit down to write there, I don't know...I just don't feel 'comfortable' there.

My feelings exactly - doesn't exude creativity, that's for sure
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schttrj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by x3xsolxdierx3x

Based on what I've seen Google do recently, "picky" isn't necessarily a bad thing. The sites that best control for quality will win.

HubPages is a great site with a great community, but, whenever I sit down to write there, I don't know...I just don't feel 'comfortable' there.

If you are going to be picky, why NOT be picky with your own blog? Putting too much effort into one content hub is just NOT worth it.

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BillWynne

15 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

If you are going to be picky, why NOT be picky with your own blog? Putting too much effort into one content hub is just NOT worth it.

That is definitely the way I see it. Best to be in control of your content and build yourself a high PR site than make backlinks to someone else's site.

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schttrj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by BillWynne

That is definitely the way I see it. Best to be in control of your content and build yourself a high PR site than make backlinks to someone else's site.

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rockerbelly 15 years ago

I've been using Squidoo with lovely success. Haven't used HubPages yet so I cannot make a comparison. However, I think using both would deliver a bigger bang.
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I prefer Hubpages.I get some better ranking than Squidoo
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15 years ago

I like them both and use them more to link building rather than to drive traffic

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ambercoco

15 years ago

I use both Hub pages and Squidoo, and have to agree Squidoo is easier to use. Hub pages is far picker about content and there are fewer options in terms of layout.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by ambercoco

I use both Hub pages and Squidoo, and have to agree Squidoo is easier to use. Hub pages is far picker about content and there are fewer options in terms of layout.

Once again, the "picky" sites are going to be the ones that survive the long haul, especially when Google hammers down on low quality content yet again. Seriously, the garbage sites that manage to rank very high, are slowly being taken over my high quality, low authority sites.

Besides, IM'ers are notorious for exploiting sites until they get slapped like Squidoo was...then, they complain that the site doesn't bring them traffic anymore because it looses traffic. Simple solution: work within each respective site's TOS, and don't try to game the system.

"Picky" is good.

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schttrj 15 years ago

Just saw all my duplicate hubs has been tagged as sub-standard. Must say, Hubpages is hard to manipulate. Too much work if you are writing unique article for both Hubpages and your own blog.
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15 years ago

Squidoo is just more fun so it is what I use rather than Hubpages.

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15 years ago

Squidoo and Hubpages both are good but i think Squidoo1st

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Giftys

Which have you guys had better results from regarding click through traffic?

I have had luck with both! Squidoo first and hub pages second.

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Sylvia Meier

15 years ago

If you are picky about the content you place on it, Google will still love it. I haven't done too much recently with Hubpages so I cannot comment on the level of traffic from there, but I do know that Squidoo, when set up properly, can offer some great traffic and search engine rankings to help you get your own money site moving up in the traffic department.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe

If you are picky about the content you place on it, Google will still love it. I haven't done too much recently with Hubpages so I cannot comment on the level of traffic from there, but I do know that Squidoo, when set up properly, can offer some great traffic and search engine rankings to help you get your own money site moving up in the traffic department.

Best wishes,
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Sylvia,
You are suggesting Squidoo as a tool to get traffic to your money site, right?

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Sylvia Meier 15 years ago

Originally Posted by BillWynne

Sylvia,
You are suggesting Squidoo as a tool to get traffic to your money site, right?

Sorry, I wasn't on the WF for a bit, yes I do mean using Squidoo as a tool to get traffic to my money sites. I build link wheels of sorts all pointing back to my money site. Works quite effectively (even post the last Google Algo. change.)

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calfred

15 years ago

Both are free, do both.

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JSProjects

15 years ago

Neither. Go for an exact match domain and rank it yourself. Squidoo, Hubpages, etc, are OK if they're not your primary source of income. But I'd still rather get a $3 .info domain, rank it, and not worry about what will happen if Google devalues these sites. (Which they have been doing lately.)

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onkelmicha

15 years ago

I thinks hubpages are annoying as hell and they flag way too much stuff as spam its annoying. I really eally love to rank stuff with squidoo as it kickass for that purpose

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kjhosein

15 years ago

Some more quantitative stats to consider in comparing the two:

Alexa Rank (the lower the better):
Hubpages: 177, Squidoo: 183

Compete Rank (the lower the better):
Hubpages: 72, Squidoo: 145

Compete Unique Visitors:
Hubpages: 14M, Squidoo: 8.5M

Also, these numbers will probably gradually adjust down as Google's latest search algorithm updates take firmer hold.

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schttrj

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe

Sorry, I wasn't on the WF for a bit, yes I do mean using Squidoo as a tool to get traffic to my money sites. I build link wheels of sorts all pointing back to my money site. Works quite effectively (even post the last Google Algo. change.)

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Yeah, link wheel works great if done right!

Originally Posted by kjhosein

Some more quantitative stats to consider in comparing the two:

Alexa Rank (the lower the better):
Hubpages: 177, Squidoo: 183

Compete Rank (the lower the better):
Hubpages: 72, Squidoo: 145

Compete Unique Visitors:
Hubpages: 14M, Squidoo: 8.5M

Also, these numbers will probably gradually adjust down as Google's latest search algorithm updates take firmer hold.

Can you share the same between Ezinearticles and Hubpages?! Would like to know.

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aulia

15 years ago

hubpages is suck !!!!

they only allow 2 links for each post

you can very easily get banned without any reason....

just use squidoo mate

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mygold

15 years ago

There are a lots of way to get more traffic but from my experience Squidoo is the better for any website. You can use it.

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johnwaugh123

15 years ago

Squidoo is a user interface website which applied the concept of a lens as its primary feature. For example "Everyone's an Expert,"book Godin describes a lens as " light and us what we need to check." Lenses are much like blog posts, except they're on a single subject.

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TomBuck

15 years ago

Hubpages have soo many rules now and half of my hubs have been taken down so I would definitely say squidoo.

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JamesGw

15 years ago

I haven't had any hubs taken down on Hubpages, so maybe you should make sure that your content is quality. If you want to put up hubs that don't offer valuable information, then they have no reason to keep you around. All of my hubs have affiliate links (sometimes several) and I've never had close to an issue.

Also, Hubpages' author subdomains have seen my traffic recover to pre-Panda levels and maybe even higher. We'll see!

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Patrick Vikus

15 years ago

With Squidoo it's easier to control the look of the lens. I use Hubpages for supposedly high quality links back to my lenses.

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bidnessboi

15 years ago

Gosh, I never got into Squidoo, but have always done hub pages. I maybe have 12 lenses, but Have well over 100 hubs which (prior to going to subdomains) averaged PR 2 and above. I guess my old backlinks are dead, but I will have to do some more.

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jamesmiller

15 years ago

What works for others might not also work for you, so better try both and see for yourself.

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dagaul101

15 years ago

I think they both rank just about the same, recently Squidoo Lens and Hub Pages are getting a little more tough about the content of your lens/pages

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Sohel Parvez

15 years ago

I preferSquidoo is best, as Hubpages has some problem.

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epathj

15 years ago

Squidoo has fewer rules and dofollow backlinks

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bidnessboi 15 years ago

Originally Posted by epathj

Squidoo has fewer rules and dofollow backlinks

Hubpages is dofollow also.

You just need a hubscore of 75 which is super easy to achieve.

5 to 10 high quality posts and read some others blogs and leave some valuable comments and you will quickly be and stay at 75.
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summerfranken

15 years ago

Both give more ctr depend upon your content.

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mahfuzakaniz

15 years ago

Squidoo, every time when i searched in Google for any subject, in 1st page i got Squidoo article.

so, Squidoo its better to get traffic!

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wzsolutions

15 years ago

Both are much better, I use both.

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carolynccourtney

15 years ago

I have been using Squidoo to good effect. HubPages not yet used, so you can not make a comparison. However, I think with so much to offer a bigger explosion.

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