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old static sites on page 1

by mofi1616
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Could somebody explain, as I am not quite clear how it works, why a site that has nothing to do with my search will show up in the results of my first page search? Also, how an article that is completely static in a site for 3 years still has high page rank and if I search on its general subject it shows on page 1 of a google search? How do I bump them down or is it possible?
I would really appreciate your comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author darrenmonroe
    Originally Posted by mofi1616 View Post

    Could somebody explain, as I am not quite clear how it works, why a site that has nothing to do with my search will show up in the results of my first page search? Also, how an article that is completely static in a site for 3 years still has high page rank and if I search on its general subject it shows on page 1 of a google search? How do I bump them down or is it possible?
    I would really appreciate your comments.
    All depends on their linking structure. If enough people are pointing to them then they become number one. Same could go at one point for the articles in there. I have seen pages of articles beat actual sites sometimes.

    All about the linking (people pointing back and WHO those sites are).

    Use marketing samurai and some others to pinpoint how many links they have.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Originally Posted by mofi1616 View Post

    Could somebody explain, as I am not quite clear how it works, why a site that has nothing to do with my search will show up in the results of my first page search? Also, how an article that is completely static in a site for 3 years still has high page rank and if I search on its general subject it shows on page 1 of a google search? How do I bump them down or is it possible?
    I would really appreciate your comments.
    Google is rumored to have a way of determining if a topic is "static" or needs updating.

    For example, a page about "how to bake banana bread" likely wouldn't need to be updated, but a page about SEO probably does.

    So, not every page needs to be updated, despite the common advice...It depends on the topic.
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Google is rumored to have a way of determining if a topic is "static" or needs updating.

      For example, a page about "how to bake banana bread" likely wouldn't need to be updated, but a page about SEO probably does.

      So, not every page needs to be updated, despite the common advice...It depends on the topic.
      It actually depends on the type of page!

      If it's your home page of your blog, unless you have a fixed, then it surely will get updated every time you post something.

      Sometimes, it depends on the power of the main domain or home page that is...

      The only thing that works on Google is AUTHORITY!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

        It actually depends on the type of page!

        If it's your home page of your blog, unless you have a fixed, then it surely will get updated every time you post something.

        Sometimes, it depends on the power of the main domain or home page that is...

        The only thing that works on Google is AUTHORITY!
        Wrong. It depends on particular topics Google feels are newsworthy or not.

        A 3 page blog that isn't updated is "static" and I have plenty of html pages that are "dynamic".

        I suggest you search for "Google and hub pages" as authority sites aren't the only types of sites Google likes, they also like hub sites quite a bit.

        I'm not saying all your points are wrong, but in the context of content, some topics need to be updated and others don't regardless of whether they are on a blog or not.
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          PS...I think we may be having a language problem. My use of "static" in my first post doesn't relate to the type of web page, but rather "doesn't change.

          A recipe about banana bread doesn't need to change.

          Another page/site about the Revolution in Libya probably does need to be updated.
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        • Profile picture of the author schttrj
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Wrong. It depends on particular topics Google feels are newsworthy or not.

          A 3 page blog that isn't updated is "static" and I have plenty of html pages that are "dynamic".

          I suggest you search for "Google and hub pages" as authority sites aren't the only types of sites Google likes, they also like hub sites quite a bit.

          I'm not saying all your points are wrong, but in the context of content, some topics need to be updated and others don't regardless of whether they are on a blog or not.
          I'm NOT some Google expert, but "hubs" are authority sites. Just take the example of Hubpages. Its root domain PR is PR6. Now, it increases exponentially everyday. But one "article marketing" hub doesn't get updated each and every day, but still ranks on the first page of Google. What's the secret here?

          I would guess, the power of the domain per se...that is, the AUTHORITY!
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            I'm NOT some Google expert, but "hubs" are authority sites. Just take the example of Hubpages. Its root domain PR is PR6. Now, it increases exponentially everyday. But one "article marketing" hub doesn't get updated each and every day, but still ranks on the first page of Google. What's the secret here?

            I would guess, the power of the domain per se...that is, the AUTHORITY!
            Hubpages is NOT a hub site.
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            • Profile picture of the author schttrj
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Hubpages is NOT a hub site.
              Then? Please clarify.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

                Then? Please clarify.
                Authority site - Has "high quality" content, with lots of inbound links.

                Hub site - Has links to "high quality" resources, and also has a lot of inbound links.

                ODP/DMOZ is an example of a hub site. No original content to speak of, but links to high quality sites.

                A search for "SEO" will likely contain a good percentage of authority sites.

                A search for "SEO resources" or "SEO links" will likely contain a good percentage of hub sites.

                Although, most/any/all searches could contain either/or/both hub and authority sites.

                The point is, Google likes sites that link to other good sites in a particular niche.
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
              I have plenty of html pages that have been the same for going on three years and they rank really well and make good money everyday.

              I think it is nice to have some pages that get updated like if you are running a trend blog, but a lot of things simply do not need to be updated if the information does not change.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    Wow Kurt, that really makes sense. So I guess this means not every topic/niche needs heavy SEO just to become number one. By the way I have seen several static sites in the first page too and I was looking for skin whitening then.

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  • Profile picture of the author mofi1616
    Ok folks, hang on, its a static page that has not changed in three years and its old news, no longer valid and its in the top ten in a search. I understand the Banana bread recipe logic, but this is an old page from 2008 that is part of an active site with many pages. Also, no one answered, how do I bump them down.?
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