Why Google is Banning and Penalizing Websites

15 years ago

banning and penalizing is the wrong terminology. Google have an idea of what they want to see in their results. If those webpages don't fit that idea, they won't rank high, if they do, they rank high.

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markandeysingh 15 years ago

Steve is right.
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GrowTraffic

15 years ago

Matt Cutts recently referred to Google penalties as "time outs" - which I think is a much more constructive way of thinking about what they are doing

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j10nnb

15 years ago

They updated their algorithm last week, can't post link to their site but here what they said:

2/24/2011 06:50:00 PM

Our goal is simple: to give people the most relevant answers to their queries as quickly as possible. This requires constant tuning of our algorithms, as new content—both good and bad—comes online all the time.

Many of the changes we make are so subtle that very few people notice them. But in the last day or so we launched a pretty big algorithmic improvement to our ranking—a change that noticeably impacts 11.8% of our queries—and we wanted to let people know what’s going on. This update is designed to reduce rankings for low-quality sites—sites which are low-value add for users, copy content from other websites or sites that are just not very useful. At the same time, it will provide better rankings for high-quality sites—sites with original content and information such as research, in-depth reports, thoughtful analysis and so on.

We can’t make a major improvement without affecting rankings for many sites. It has to be that some sites will go up and some will go down. Google depends on the high-quality content created by wonderful websites around the world, and we do have a responsibility to encourage a healthy web ecosystem. Therefore, it is important for high-quality sites to be rewarded, and that’s exactly what this change does.

It’s worth noting that this update does not rely on the feedback we’ve received from the Personal Blocklist Chrome extension, which we launched last week. However, we did compare the Blocklist data we gathered with the sites identified by our algorithm, and we were very pleased that the preferences our users expressed by using the extension are well represented. If you take the top several dozen or so most-blocked domains from the Chrome extension, then this algorithmic change addresses 84% of them, which is strong independent confirmation of the user benefits.

So, we’re very excited about this new ranking improvement because we believe it’s a big step in the right direction of helping people find ever higher quality in our results. We’ve been tackling these issues for more than a year, and working on this specific change for the past few months. And we’re working on many more updates that we believe will substantially improve the quality of the pages in our results.

To start with, we’re launching this change in the U.S. only; we plan to roll it out elsewhere over time. We’ll keep you posted as we roll this and other changes out, and as always please keep giving us feedback about the quality of our results because it really helps us to improve Google Search.

Posted by Amit Singhal, Google Fellow, and Matt Cutts, Principal Engineer

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Aki Fagno

15 years ago

Originally Posted by j10nnb

They updated their algorithm last week, can't post link to their site but here what they said:

2/24/2011 06:50:00 PM

Our goal is simple: to give people the most relevant answers to their queries as quickly as possible. This requires constant tuning of our algorithms, as new content--both good and bad--comes online all the time.

Many of the changes we make are so subtle that very few people notice them. But in the last day or so we launched a pretty big algorithmic improvement to our ranking--a change that noticeably impacts 11.8% of our queries--and we wanted to let people know what's going on. This update is designed to reduce rankings for low-quality sites--sites which are low-value add for users, copy content from other websites or sites that are just not very useful. At the same time, it will provide better rankings for high-quality sites--sites with original content and information such as research, in-depth reports, thoughtful analysis and so on.

We can't make a major improvement without affecting rankings for many sites. It has to be that some sites will go up and some will go down. Google depends on the high-quality content created by wonderful websites around the world, and we do have a responsibility to encourage a healthy web ecosystem. Therefore, it is important for high-quality sites to be rewarded, and that's exactly what this change does.

It's worth noting that this update does not rely on the feedback we've received from the Personal Blocklist Chrome extension, which we launched last week. However, we did compare the Blocklist data we gathered with the sites identified by our algorithm, and we were very pleased that the preferences our users expressed by using the extension are well represented. If you take the top several dozen or so most-blocked domains from the Chrome extension, then this algorithmic change addresses 84% of them, which is strong independent confirmation of the user benefits.

So, we're very excited about this new ranking improvement because we believe it's a big step in the right direction of helping people find ever higher quality in our results. We've been tackling these issues for more than a year, and working on this specific change for the past few months. And we're working on many more updates that we believe will substantially improve the quality of the pages in our results.

To start with, we're launching this change in the U.S. only; we plan to roll it out elsewhere over time. We'll keep you posted as we roll this and other changes out, and as always please keep giving us feedback about the quality of our results because it really helps us to improve Google Search.

Posted by Amit Singhal, Google Fellow, and Matt Cutts, Principal Engineer

Cool! What a detailed info! Thanks for posting.

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Johnsonconsulting1 15 years ago

I watched a video last week, and the man (forget his name) speaking was from Google. He mentioned that one way backlinks - especially .edu - have been the bread and butter of so many business ranking strategies but that instead of "authority" they will be looking for a way to give more accurate and useful information to searchers.

Then my jaw dropped when he mentioned they are evaluating Twitter and other social media to see how to change the algorithm to fit popularity. Retweets will figure in. They figure if people "like" something enough to RT, what has been found is probably of great value.

Supposedly, Twitter is the new .edu/.org. Hmmmmmm......

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livewelling 15 years ago

what are other alternative about Google adsense since all they know how to do is banning people account
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Fernando Veloso

15 years ago

Originally Posted by donkey007

because they should be penalized. they dont have their own contents.

Google's main role is to give quality answer for the query of thousands of users. so they have to do this.

Wake up and smell the coffee. :rolleyes:

What about the hundreds/thousands/millions websites that got penalized:

with unique content
updated often
etc etc

?

You people need to get real. Google is always hitting someone, somewhere. All the rest is just marketing drama...

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mailey 15 years ago

It seems like a never ending game of cat and mouse with Google.
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- GeorgR. 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mailey
  
  It seems like a never ending game of cat and mouse with Google.
  
  Nonsense.
  
  Unless you engage in "odd" activities you have nothing to fear. Google doesnt take off sites or penalizes them without a real reason.
  
  I still want to see proof how many (allegedly) "high quality" sites got hit "oh so bad"..i actually dont believe one inch of this.
  
  Rather, if it were the case that an alleged high quality site "got hit", maybe more as a result of OTHER, competing sites rising up..not directly as a penalization of the site itself.
  
  There is no reason to play hide & seek, cat & mouse for any normal webmaster..and the bl@ack hatters who do really "bad" things already know all of this, its nothing new at all to keep under the radar if you do bl@ck hat stuff. (And most of those results are very, very shot lived anyway)
  
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  GeorgR. 15 years ago
  
  And here's a real knee slapper:
  
  Because some "SEO Expert" from Pakistan doesn't know a thing...maybe that's the reason they are banning I hope you are not offering your services anywhere...
  
  No offense, just speaking the truth.
  
  As a self-proclaimed SEO expert you should NOT need to ask that question...
  
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Charles Harper

15 years ago

They have a business to run.

As it dawns on me today,as many of have said, you can't build your entire business model around a Search Engine that is a business. It does not have to be fair, only fair to those who they deem their stakeholders. It is not in their best interest to be fair to internet marketers. This is not a bad thing. It is reality.

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Stephen Crooks

15 years ago

Absolutely Charles.. One of the most bewildering things from most IM'ers is to start thinking that Google is there purely to service our needs. Nothing could be further from the truth. If we want to dance with Google, we have to dance to their songs. If not, we have to find alternate ways of bringing in traffic.

Originally Posted by Charles Harper

They have a business to run.

As it dawns on me today,as many of have said, you can't build your entire business model around a Search Engine that is a business. It does not have to be fair, only fair to those who they deem their stakeholders. It is not in their best interest to be fair to internet marketers. This is not a bad thing. It is reality.

CT

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jubbi 15 years ago

"Absolutely Charles.. One of the most bewildering things from most IM'ers is to start thinking that Google is there purely to service our needs. Nothing could be further from the truth. If we want to dance with Google, we have to dance to their songs. If not, we have to find alternate ways of bringing in traffic."

Yes i am agree this man really very funny and beneficial answer
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HaydenR

15 years ago

Long answer: Google has an agenda. And that agenda is to make money. It does that by being the best search engine there is.. and this means its got to deliver quality results on their search. Hence, the "banning" of bad websites.. How can they remain the best if the results they give are crap?

Simple answer: Google hates us.

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ipixeli

15 years ago

Nothing is perfect in this world. Their algorithm mainly aims at bad websites, but may 'accidentally' kill the good ones in the process.

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dburk

15 years ago

Originally Posted by HaydenR

Long answer: Google has an agenda. And that agenda is to make money. It does that by being the best search engine there is.. and this means its got to deliver quality results on their search. Hence, the "banning" of bad websites.. How can they remain the best if the results they give are crap?

Simple answer: Google hates us.

Google only hates spammers and scammers. Don't be one and you won't be hated!

Originally Posted by ipixeli

Nothing is perfect in this world. Their algorithm mainly aims at bad websites, but may 'accidentally' kill the good ones in the process.

This update isn't likely to kill a good website. However, if a website has relied heavily on web spam to rank, then they will naturally see some drop. This was going to happen eventually anyway, it's just now automatic and immediate.

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jonnyhardbaked

15 years ago

Its because they don't follow Google's standards when promoting their sites.

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jhonsean

15 years ago

Because they have to. To avoid spammers and users of black hat techniques.

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spectrecom

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jubbi

Hi buddies,
share here the reasons of "Why Google is Banning and Penalizing Websites"
Please share if you know?

Google has rolled out a new algorithm, if you pump out low quality, spammy content, you will be in the firing line and so you should be.

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MonclerJackets

15 years ago

customer is the basic

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mygold

15 years ago

One of the most common complaints I've heard from webmasters and SEOs in the past 18 months has been around Google's inaction on spam reports. While the web spam team has been aggressive about asking webmasters to contribute via their spam report form (though they prefer the version in Webmaster Tools as this helps verify the identity of the reporter), they've (seemingly) been much more hands-off in penalizing sites that are engaging in these practices. Naturally, many SEOs feel that this validates the spam tactics, but there may be more to this story.

It's certainly true that 2-3 years ago, spam reporting that happened publicly in the SEO world - on prominent forums/blogs/sites - would often find themselves the victim of swift punishment. The SEO community has noticed that trend decline dramatically and at the same time seen (or, at least, felt) that Google's web spam team is no longer taking a significant quantity of actions directly against individual sites.

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rcritchett

15 years ago

I agree with GeorgR on many levels.

There is a way to do SEO and not have to worry about these changes that are taking place.

Sadly, most people are too focused on doing completely the converse of what G recommends.

I've never had a problem, and I'm doing great now, but I have a long term perspective, create super unique stuff, watch where I'm getting links from and only link to high quality stuff.

I interact with authority bloggers, get links from them and I stay away from anything that could even possibly be thought of as shady.

Sure, we've all gone a bit.. grey-hat at points, but we all know what we should be doing.

Disclaimer. That was just an opinion, based on extensive study, research and experience.

Thanks for letting me voice my opinion!

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yukon

Banned 15 years ago

Some of these comments are hilarious (spammers & scammers) LMAO!

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livewelling 15 years ago

how i make 5euro in googleadsense without banning me
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rain21

15 years ago

because Google think those websites are useless for people

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Gerald Arno

Banned 15 years ago

Google´s philosophy is to present the BEST search results, content, and information to the end user who is you as a searcher. They have to prioritize and separate "fine" pieces of content and also "trash" pieces of content. If they wouldn´t do it no optimal results would be presented to the end user.

Most SEO´ers that I met made the mistake to invest in cheap backlinking services which build thousands of backlinks immediately which are extremely low in quality and ALSO trash strategies. It´s not about the quantity alone. It is about consistent building of high quality backlinks. Over 95%+ people miss this point because they think only short term, and don´t have the patience and dedication to work for their LONG TERM passive income. That´s pretty much the truth.

Look at the top results at keywords that are ranked on the top and review how they built their links, what is it that they did for backlinking?

Keep that in mind!

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jazbo

15 years ago

Just look at this thread. The OP is an obvious spammer/bot, and several of the replies are also obviously rubbish. This is getting worse on WF.

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paulgl 15 years ago

I got suckered into one where the OP asked
what is the difference between Ad sense and Ad words?

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dburk

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jazbo

Just look at this thread. The OP is an obvious spammer/bot, and several of the replies are also obviously rubbish. This is getting worse on WF.

What are you suggesting? That someone posting replies like the following isn't really contributing value to the forum, and they might as well have been placed by an automaton?

Very well posted. Great job dude!
I totally agree.
lol. You made my day dude!
Go and search in Google. You can have broad answers you can find there.
Cool! What a detailed info! Thanks for posting.
Wow! That's one cool strategy. Thanks
Indeed. Thumbs up!
This is cool. Thanks for sharing your ideas guys. It's very interesting.
Cool. I agree.
Great job!
Thumbs up! I totally agree.
It seems to be true.
Same here.
Thumbs up! I totally agree.
Great hit you have there!
Really? hmmmppp...

Those single sentence posts were all posted by the same member account and their entire history seems to be similar one sentence posts so generic they could apply to nearly any thread on this forum.

<sarcasm>Just think how great this forum would be if we all posted in this fashion.</sarcasm> :rolleyes:

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