Anyone know, vs. non context relevant backlinks, how much better context relevant backlinks are?

13 years ago

It also depends on how many other outbound links are on the page that is linking to you (link juice is divided by the total number of outlinks)

but if there are a lot of outlinks + noncontext relevant =

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13 years ago

I have been told that even vs. higher pr non context relevants that context relevant lower pr backlinks are worth more to google.

Anyone have any idea of how much more relatively from experience? Guess I'll find out for myself in due course through trial and improvement.

All the major search engines have the concept of topical hubs as part of their algorithm. Definitely contextual relevant links will be more logical and appropriate.

A car mechanic getting a backlink from a high PR bridal gown site is great but imagine the plight of the users. Someone interested in cars would not be keen on visiting a wedding site.

When it comes to backlinks, the emphasis seems to be on high PR links. But links also bring in traffic - read humans who expect good resources a site would link similar to the content they are reading on that site.

I'm just looking on frontpage of google and one of my comp., position 5, has only 37 backlinks and checking the backlinks they are on random (non context relevant) profile backlinks.

So I'm thinking this is gonna be pretty easy to beat right?

I did a blast of loads of blog commenting (are these worth more than profile? I'm guessing yes) on context relevant (prob did like 30+ at least so will see what sticks) and am waiting for them to trickle through (1st one came through today).

All links created are not equal. Generally editorial links have the highest value where in your article in your niche is so good that someone links to it naturally from their site contextually with appropriate anchor text.

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dburk

13 years ago

Hi steadypay,

It is not quite as simple as you seem to imagine. While a irrelevant backlink has no direct influence on webpage ranking, it can indirectly influence a page ranking using correctly applied techniques.

So it is true that an irrelevant backlink seems to have absolutely no direct ranking benefit, it still passes link juice which, when properly channeled through a subsequent relevant link, will influence rankings. That is one of the reasons that proper internal link structure is so effective in influencing your webpage's ranking.

You must consider the above mentioned influence when analyzing your competition else your conclusions may be invalid.

Furthermore, many folks seem to not understand how Google determines backlink relevance, they often confuse website topic with page topic. Page topic is what Google uses and anchortext is the most influential signal in backlink relevance.

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dp40oz

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

So it is true that an irrelevant backlink seems to have absolutely no direct ranking benefit, it still passes link juice which, when properly channeled through a subsequent relevant link, will influence rankings. That is one of the reasons that proper internal link structure is so effective in influencing your webpage's ranking

So are you saying if i have a page about iPods and I make a blog comment on a bridal page it's irrelevant and won't count for much, if anything. But if I have my same iPod page and I comment on the same bridal page but instead that comment points to a buffer site that then points to my iPod page, that then my iPod page now receives the juice from the bridal comment? Not sure if that's what you meant there.

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BenoitT

13 years ago

Originally Posted by steadypay

I have been told that even vs. higher pr non context relevants that context relevant lower pr backlinks are worth more to google.

Anyone have any idea of how much more relatively from experience? Guess I'll find out for myself in due course through trial and improvement.

I'm just looking on frontpage of google and one of my comp., position 5, has only 37 backlinks and checking the backlinks they are on random (non context relevant) profile backlinks.

So I'm thinking this is gonna be pretty easy to beat right?

I did a blast of loads of blog commenting (are these worth more than profile? I'm guessing yes) on context relevant (prob did like 30+ at least so will see what sticks) and am waiting for them to trickle through (1st one came through today).

I'll give you a long answer short: do both. The high PR is useful and the low PR relevant one is also useful.

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keepclicking 13 years ago

Even though the discussions above did not give me a clear answer they did enlighten me somewhat. I think the last one of making a long answer short is to do both was a good summation of all of the above. That is the approach I will take.
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fanimal

13 years ago

Blog comments are usually worth nothing. Especially from pages with 30+ blog comments as those are considered link farms by google.

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steadypay 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fanimal

Blog comments are usually worth nothing. Especially from pages with 30+ blog comments as those are considered link farms by google.

I call bullcrap on that.
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- Google.me 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by steadypay
  
  I call bullcrap on that.
  
  I second that one
  
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- mrtaxiservice 13 years ago
  
  yes relevent result matter but you must get a popular page from google. Where the combination of both thing will effect for good ranking
  
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Google.me 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fanimal

Blog comments are usually worth nothing. Especially from pages with 30+ blog comments as those are considered link farms by google.

not really - look at how many comments or post on some of the threads in here and see if your comment is relevant. Depends if you understand seo
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steadypay

13 years ago

I'm glad there are people like this around doing SEO...it means less competition

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Tim Wallace

13 years ago

Backlinks from relevant context is just one aspect, the quality of these link source, the number of external links on that link source and even the age of the link sources have influence to keywords ranking.

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Vexo

13 years ago

They are exactly the same there was a case study on this forum a while back

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dburk 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Vexo

They are exactly the same there was a case study on this forum a while back

Do you mean the one that demonstrated that Google does not use "website topic" as a signal of relevance? The one that beautifully illustrated that all signals of relevance are "page" level, not "site" level?
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Anyone know, vs. non context relevant backlinks, how much better context relevant backlinks are?

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