Backlinks to your Backlinks

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Okay, I have the whole back link thing down. But I was just reading about back links to your back links. But I don't get the entire theory here. Can someone break it down slowly for a newbie? And how does it create more power? Or does it? I guess it could help you index your links but where do you back link to your back links?? thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam H
    Its only really worth it if you own that website or its a web 2.0 type page/site like blogger, squidoo or articles which you have submitted etc.

    Dont go thinking that you have to buildlinks to other peoples sites of which your link is placed. Generally the idea of it is that you help build the authority of those linked pages which in turn gives your link more credit.

    You have to remember that alot of pages get deindexed after a little while if they do not attract any love, I.e people linking to them as google still see's pages that have no links as not important ( unless of course the site has great internal linking and has good authority its self. ) So creating links to them is a step towards helping them remain in the index and still counting as a backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author App Developers
    okay, I think I get it now. It seems like a whole lot of work and I am not so sure I need to go that route as of yet. I did misunderstand the whole building backlinks to backlinks so I appreciate that you cleared it up!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    Sending backlinks to your backlinks A) helps them get found, counted, and indexed, and B) increases the flow of link juice.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Originally Posted by App Developers View Post

    Okay, I have the whole back link thing down. But I was just reading about back links to your back links. But I don't get the entire theory here. Can someone break it down slowly for a newbie? And how does it create more power? Or does it? I guess it could help you index your links but where do you back link to your back links?? thanks in advance.
    If you're backlinks are coming from article directories, web 2.0 sites, etc, it's a great tactic. If you're doing some "grey hat" backlinking it will also help you stay under the radar. Instead of pointing all of the links to your main domain you'll be pointing them to your article, hub, etc. This will rank help them rank higher and additionally boost the link juice from these sites to yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thirty3Down
    1) Looks More Natural.
    2) Helps with "Link Velocity" (Links being found at a natural pace... instead of all at once)
    3) Helps your links to actually get indexed.

    Do a quick search on link wheels and link pyramids and that should give you a little more insight.

    Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    It's all about natural linking. Imagine if you had a 'golden' site that offered the best pure content in your niche, and say that you never done any link building for that site yourself. Links would appear naturally as other webmasters referenced your site and articles. Those pages will likely also have other people referencing there site.. and backover.

    In other words you end up with a string of sites naturally linking to other sites. Like a long chain. Quite a complex chain. This is how I believe Google can identify a naturally 'voted' website.

    In order to replicate this pattern you need to record your links and slowly build layers in a random fashion. Layer upon layer.

    I think too many people get in a rut, building links to their own sites.. because they 'maybe' feel that they are wasting time and resources building links to other peoples pages. I guess it boils down to what thoery you believe in and what theory you want to invest your time, money and energy in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler Abernethy
      Originally Posted by John Williamson View Post

      Sending backlinks to your backlinks A) helps them get found, counted, and indexed, and B) increases the flow of link juice.
      at the very least that is the case

      ++\/

      Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO View Post

      It's all about natural linking. Imagine if you had a 'golden' site that offered the best pure content in your niche, and say that you never done any link building for that site yourself. Links would appear naturally as other webmasters referenced your site and articles. Those pages will likely also have other people referencing there site.. and backover.

      In other words you end up with a string of sites naturally linking to other sites. Like a long chain. Quite a complex chain. This is how I believe Google can identify a naturally 'voted' website.

      In order to replicate this pattern you need to record your links and slowly build layers in a random fashion. Layer upon layer.

      I think too many people get in a rut, building links to their own sites.. because they 'maybe' feel that they are wasting time and resources building links to other peoples pages. I guess it boils down to what thoery you believe in and what theory you want to invest your time, money and energy in.
      I think thats the idea mate
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  • Profile picture of the author queeni
    backlinks your backlinks are the method you will need to do to help your main site authority. YOur backlinks will be get indexed and google judge your site as an authority due to this kinds of links tech
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The main reasoning is that you want to increase the "link value" of the pages that link to you.

    Pages don't hoard link value, they pass it on...But, they keep it too.

    Here's how it works:

    Let's say Page A has 10 link points. If Page A links to Page B, Page B also gets 10 link points. But Page A still keeps its own 10 links points.

    So if you have an article on EZA, if you link to your article, you will give the page with that article more link points. That page not only acquires those link points that will help it rank higher, it will pass on those link points to your own page to help it rank higher.

    That's the theory behind PageRank...Here's a little more PR theory and the reality: If Page A links to Page B AND Page C, it will split the 10 link points between B and C, so each of them has 5 link points.

    What this means is, a site like Ezine Articles puts a ton of other links to other pages on your article page. This means you're splitting your link points with every other link on that page.

    Still, I feel a few link points are better than none. But when laying out a strategy for a linking network, when you "link to link", place your priorities and focus the majority of your effort to linking to your resources that have the fewest links that are in your control.

    On other words, think about the "page link ratio": How many links can you put on the page? How many links out of your control are on the page, leaking link points?

    For example, let's say EZA has 50 of their own links on a page and gives you 2 links of your own. That's 1 link for you, 25 for them. If you link a lot to this page, who is getting the most benefit from your linking efforts.

    But if you set up a free blog somewhere, you can put a lot of links you own on a page, and not have any link juice leakage to other links. These are the types of resources you want to point most of your link efforts to.

    Again, I believe in "above 0" and still would still give EZA a few links, as you can also get some "internal" link benefits from the EZA site itself. But it would only be a few and time would be better spent on resources that give you much more control over the links on your pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      The main reasoning is that you want to increase the "link value" of the pages that link to you.

      Pages don't hoard link value, they pass it on...But, they keep it too.

      Here's how it works:

      Let's say Page A has 10 link points. If Page A links to Page B, Page B also gets 10 link points. But Page A still keeps its own 10 links points.

      So if you have an article on EZA, if you link to your article, you will give the page with that article more link points. That page not only acquires those link points that will help it rank higher, it will pass on those link points to your own page to help it rank higher.

      That's the theory behind PageRank...Here's a little more PR theory and the reality: If Page A links to Page B AND Page C, it will split the 10 link points between B and C, so each of them has 5 link points.

      What this means is, a site like Ezine Articles puts a ton of other links to other pages on your article page. This means you're splitting your link points with every other link on that page.

      Still, I feel a few link points are better than none. But when laying out a strategy for a linking network, when you "link to link", place your priorities and focus the majority of your effort to linking to your resources that have the fewest links that are in your control.

      On other words, think about the "page link ratio": How many links can you put on the page? How many links out of your control are on the page, leaking link points?

      For example, let's say EZA has 50 of their own links on a page and gives you 2 links of your own. That's 1 link for you, 25 for them. If you link a lot to this page, who is getting the most benefit from your linking efforts.

      But if you set up a free blog somewhere, you can put a lot of links you own on a page, and not have any link juice leakage to other links. These are the types of resources you want to point most of your link efforts to.

      Again, I believe in "above 0" and still would still give EZA a few links, as you can also get some "internal" link benefits from the EZA site itself. But it would only be a few and time would be better spent on resources that give you much more control over the links on your pages.
      Hey great post. Im definitely not as familiar with the whole science of linking as you are. Correct me if im wrong but aren't you discounting the link juice coming from ezinearticles high PR. So say you get 1 link point compared to their 25 but the touching pages would be passing so much more PR link juice then your brand new free blog with 2 articles and no PR. Isn't this why Angela's and Pauls links work so well. Pages keep passing their PR link juice to whatever pages they are touching and whatever pages those pages touch and so on. So that 1 out of 25 points from Ezinearticles might be pretty powerful. My head starts spinning when I think about all this stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author shafiqkamal
    Hi,

    So is it safe to do this:

    1) I write a content about my keyword that i want to rank for.
    2) Submit to top 10 article directories with author resource box pointing to my money site.
    3) Social bookmark my submitted articles using top social bookmarking websites.

    Does this count as backlinking my backlinks?

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