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De-indexed...??

by Bozigian
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Alright .

I know some people use program like amr,scrapebox, senuke.

I know people say they get to rank 1

But when make many links with these programs, do you get deindexed.

For people who use these software and get to rank 1.
Do you sites stay page 1 or do get deindexed?
#deindexed
  • Profile picture of the author NastyBlast
    well it's a fine balance, and now an even more delicate one. This is where did Google algorithm comes into play and no one can give a definitive answer because no one knows what the global thresholds are.

    Regardless of if you use these tools or not, it's going to be a matter of if you set off flags at Google. Getting back links to quickly, getting irrelevant back links. I think Google will stick to its historical position of devaluing links rather than penalizing or de-indexing a website.

    I think if a website is only held up by these mass link programs without a previously established reputation then they could get de-indexed. And you have probably heard stories about domains getting de-indexed because it is often the case that people using these programs deploy disposable domains that are not a big loss if they get penalized. With that in mind these disposable domains were never established and so Google can more easily identify them as being a spam domain.

    If the domain is established before a lot of links coming from using these programs I believe it would be harder for Google to determine if it is the website owner attempting to promote itself or a competitor attempting to attack the website and dropped its ranking. Google's historical position on that is to devalue the inbound links but unfortunately it does not always distinguish the legitimately built links from the spam links in the site will take a hit anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author goldhome
    It is better iF you follow the manual link building technique. There are some software that helps you make profile backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart william
    hi try to build links manually, if you use software's to build links then your site may be penalize by search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Originally Posted by Bozigian View Post

    Alright .

    I know some people use program like amr,scrapebox, senuke.

    I know people say they get to rank 1

    But when make many links with these programs, do you get deindexed.

    For people who use these software and get to rank 1.
    Do you sites stay page 1 or do get deindexed?
    Hi Bozigian,

    While the following may seem obvious, your question indicates that you have not realized these facts.

    People use those tools you mentioned in your post. People are not websites, therefore people aren't indexed and can't be de-indexed. Since websites are not people, Google almost never knows who is responsible for web spam only which webmaster has permitted web spam to be placed on their website.

    So no, your website is never de-indexed because you used those tools. Google has no way of knowing who actually used those tools. They do devalue pages where your web spam is allowed to be placed, which reduces or eliminates the value of those backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author ElectronPlumber
      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Hi Bozigian,

      While the following may seem obvious, your question indicates that you have not realized these facts.

      People use those tools you mentioned in your post. People are not websites, therefore people aren't indexed and can't be de-indexed. Since websites are not people, Google almost never knows who is responsible for web spam only which webmaster has permitted web spam to be placed on their website.

      So no, your website is never de-indexed because you used those tools. Google has no way of knowing who actually used those tools. They do devalue pages where your web spam is allowed to be placed, which reduces or eliminates the value of those backlinks.
      What Don said is 100% true. Google will not de-index your site because you used these tools for exactly the reasons he specifies.

      HOWEVER, success using these tools could hurt you if your site stinks! Your site needs to deserve a good ranking to keep it long term. Using these tools too heavily can bring your site to the attention of a Google Quality Engineer who may notice you are also selling links or keyword stuffing or have a low quality site and give you a manual penalty.

      It's highly possible that people who say they were de-indexed after using these tools is because they have a crappy one page site that suddenly shoots to #1 or #2 for a keyword, their competition who actually have well designed sites with useful original content file a spam report and out comes the manual whacking stick.
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      • Profile picture of the author RichardF
        Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber View Post

        What Don said is 100% true. Google will not de-index your site because you used these tools for exactly the reasons he specifies.

        HOWEVER, success using these tools could hurt you if your site stinks! Your site needs to deserve a good ranking to keep it long term. Using these tools too heavily can bring your site to the attention of a Google Quality Engineer who may notice you are also selling links or keyword stuffing or have a low quality site and give you a manual penalty.

        It's highly possible that people who say they were de-indexed after using these tools is because they have a crappy one page site that suddenly shoots to #1 or #2 for a keyword, their competition who actually have well designed sites with useful original content file a spam report and out comes the manual whacking stick.
        Very good points. People need to realize that manual inspections DO happen, especially if you run Adsense, are in a competitive or high volume niche. The only times I've been deindexed though is autoblog crap sites, never with only thin (really thin) content. Doesn't matter much if you're deindexed or not though if you're thrown to the last page in rankings
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  • Profile picture of the author masterjani
    When you are using unique content there is no way to think about deindexing.Don't do extra blast to the new sites that is a good idea to safe.
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    • Profile picture of the author S Drost
      Also, spread your nukes out over a week or two.
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