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Is this what Google calls "quality content"

by williamd52
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Just been fooling around with a new SEO tool I bought and have been looking for keywords for possible domain names in several different niches. I have never ventured into the weight loss niche before so I did a little experimenting with different keywords and was curious to see some of the sites on the first page of Google and Yahoo for some of the results, as well as the content on some of the sites.
This particular site the content posted below came from was highly ranked on the first page of both Google and Yahoo for a keyword I am interested in. Below is an excerpt of the high quality content found on this site.

"The best weight loss program. Weight loss program is the best thing that works for you. He said that in order to lose weight must reduce your daily calorie intake and increase the amount of caloric need. In addition, depending on the body can benefit from reducing carbohydrates. Criteria are described here, but what to do:
1. Calculate the daily calorie intake.

2. Reduction in daily calorie intake 300 calories in the first four days of food, and then cut 200 calories, which required a total of 500 calories out, the lower end of the first week of the system plan.

3. Start walking. In general, you should walk at least 30 minutes a day three times a week but not about 4% below their target weight loss go five times a week.

4. Carbohydrates. What is your body type, I believe that carbohydrates control of the site to lose weight. This does not mean you have to do Atkins, but if you eat 500 grams of carbohydrates per day to lose weight faster, consumes around 150 / 200 g carbohydrate.

Do not overdo the exercise. Can help you lose weight faster and can slow down your metabolism. Go two days of rest after training.

Last but not least, ask your doctor before you start your diet and exercise program."

If this can rank on the first page of Google and Yahoo do those of us who choose to actually write intelligent, readable content have that much to worry about? And all this time I thought the weight loss niche was a tough nut to crack.
#calls #google #quality content
  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    It's not about the content, it's about the backlinks and a whole host of other factors. Unfortunate but true. You can surpass this site but you're going to have to some diligent research on why it has a hold on that coveted number 1 spot.

    And if you ever find the secret to weight loss, I will be first in line haha
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    • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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      Originally Posted by Charlotte Jay View Post

      It's not about the content, it's about the backlinks and a whole host of other factors. Unfortunate but true. You can surpass this site but you're going to have to some diligent research on why it has a hold on that coveted number 1 spot.

      And if you ever find the secret to weight loss, I will be first in line haha
      Like She said quality content is not everything....
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      • Profile picture of the author Neil Macks
        It may have reached the number spot but i doubt very much that it will ever make any sales
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    • Profile picture of the author reg62
      Originally Posted by Charlotte Jay View Post

      It's not about the content, it's about the backlinks and a whole host of other factors. Unfortunate but true. You can surpass this site but you're going to have to some diligent research on why it has a hold on that coveted number 1 spot.

      And if you ever find the secret to weight loss, I will be first in line haha
      There are no secrets to losing weight.

      Forget diet pills, ebooks, diets and God knows what else there is out there.

      All you have to do to lose weight can be summed up in one short paragraph:

      Burn off more calories than you take in by through short intensive exercise. Eat 4 or 5 small meals each day instead of 3 large ones. Doing this will speed up your metabolism which will cause you to lose weight.

      But of course there will always be lots of money to be made by making things sound more involved than they actually are.
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      • Profile picture of the author bethparker
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        • Profile picture of the author bethparker
          If this was all you had to do to lose weight, there would be a lot fewer fat people in the world:

          Originally Posted by reg32 View Post

          Burn off more calories than you take in by through short intensive exercise. Eat 4 or 5 small meals each day instead of 3 large ones. Doing this will speed up your metabolism which will cause you to lose weight.
          It's more complicated than that. People who have started to develop insulin resistance require a low-carb diet to lose weight. Exercise and calorie restriction alone won't do it. Their bodies can't burn their fat because the excess insulin in their systems keeps the fat locked in the fat cells. The only way to get the fat out so it can be burned is to severely restrict carbohydrate intake so that the body stops releasing so much insulin.

          The main reason people have so much trouble losing and keeping off weight is that they restrict fat and/or calories instead of carbs because so many of the so-called "experts" have been preaching it for so long. Just because it's "common knowledge" doesn't mean it is correct.
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          • Profile picture of the author reg62
            Originally Posted by bethparker View Post

            If this was all you had to do to lose weight, there would be a lot fewer fat people in the world:



            It's more complicated than that. People who have started to develop insulin resistance require a low-carb diet to lose weight. Exercise and calorie restriction alone won't do it. Their bodies can't burn their fat because the excess insulin in their systems keeps the fat locked in the fat cells. The only way to get the fat out so it can be burned is to severely restrict carbohydrate intake so that the body stops releasing so much insulin.

            The main reason people have so much trouble losing and keeping off weight is that they restrict fat and/or calories instead of carbs because so many of the so-called "experts" have been preaching it for so long. Just because it's "common knowledge" doesn't mean it is correct.
            Actually it's not more complicated than what I said.

            The more you eat the faster you'll lose weight.

            It's all about increasing your metabolic rate. Lots of people make the mistake of eating less thinking that they'll lose weight but that only slows down your metabolism which causes you to gain weight.

            So 4-6 small meals a day is what you should be looking at if you really want to lose weight fast.

            Olympic swimmers and top athletes can take in 5000 calories a day and stay lean as they burn them off through intensive esercise. If the average person has 5000 calories a day they will get fat.

            So exercise (intensive) combined with eating more in small amounts = fast weight loss.

            Do you understand now?
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      • Profile picture of the author DamenRabat
        Originally Posted by reg62 View Post

        There are no secrets to losing weight.

        Forget diet pills, ebooks, diets and God knows what else there is out there.

        All you have to do to lose weight can be summed up in one short paragraph:

        Burn off more calories than you take in by through short intensive exercise. Eat 4 or 5 small meals each day instead of 3 large ones. Doing this will speed up your metabolism which will cause you to lose weight.

        But of course there will always be lots of money to be made by making things sound more involved than they actually are.

        YEP! But with weight loss being one of he biggest markets and millions of dollars being made here a core truth like this won´t find much appreiation
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  • Profile picture of the author temp_12000
    whatever can rank higher is a piece of good quality content,
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  • Profile picture of the author Xavier Tan
    Generally, just provide unique contents that are beneficial to your customers and build backlinks to it. This is what google is looking for as they want their customers to have the best experience when using their search engine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
      The site with that content is using an exact match domain, has over 300 backlinks to the page and has over 79 pages of related content on the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author William King
    This is the main problem search engines do loves quality content but they have different meaning of quality and unique content. They are not humans which can judge the quality of content on the basis of idea. Search Engines judge the quality of content on the basis of spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes and the copy content. That is why re writing of content still works you only need to good with words and stealing the idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    If this can rank on the first page of Google and Yahoo do those of us who choose to actually write intelligent, readable content have that much to worry about?
    You've been drinking the content kool aid.

    And all this time I thought the weight loss niche was a tough nut to crack.
    The keyword phrase your after (based on where the article came from), very low competition and very low search volume. It's a good starter keyword for somebody who is just starting out.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Originally Posted by williamd52 View Post


    If this can rank on the first page of Google and Yahoo do those of us who choose to actually write intelligent, readable content have that much to worry about?
    If the intention of this article is to actually convert its readers, it's going to fail miserably. This is probably one of the primary reasons why people complain and whine about not being able to make any money despite ranking their articles on the first page of the search engines.

    The majority of people are going to take one look at that appalling article, and then click away from it. This marketer's efforts at ranking the article are going to be mostly wasted, and yet he'll fail to realize the root cause of its failure - despite it staring at him straight in the face (the terribly written article).
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      If the intention of this article is to actually convert its readers, it's going to fail miserably.
      Indeed. Exactly.

      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      This is probably one of the primary reasons why people complain and whine about not being able to make any money despite ranking their articles on the first page of the search engines.
      Indeed ... exactly!

      And this, in turn, is why it's comparatively easy to make a really good living in article marketing: because most people who "try to do article marketing" (whether they think about it consciously or not) imagine that having their site at the top of Google matters more than attracting targeted customers and gradually (or sometimes quickly) converting them through quality content.

      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      This marketer's efforts at ranking the article are going to be mostly wasted, and yet he'll fail to realize the root cause of its failure - despite it staring at him straight in the face (the terribly written article).
      Exactly so.

      And, ironically, newbie article marketers can learn a far more valuable lesson by reading your post in this thread than they can in any number of those ever-popular, never-ending threads discussing "which free spinning/submitting software to use". :rolleyes: :p

      And, almost as ironically, they generally don't even begin to appreciate how very much easier it is to occupy the top position in Google for keywords much more competitive than the above by using syndication-quality content in the first place, rather than by relying on their own backlinking efforts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      If the intention of this article is to actually convert its readers, it's going to fail miserably.
      Not if it is an Adsense site.

      The majority of people are going to take one look at that appalling article, and then click away from it.
      All of those Adsense links are just sitting there waiting for that.

      Which is exactly why Google is in the mess that it's in.

      If their original plan for their business was to create relevant "quality" search results, then the whole Adwords and Adsense program became their own worst enemy.

      Kind of reminds me of a certain Mary Shelley story.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      If the intention of this article is to actually convert its readers, it's going to fail miserably.
      This is the BIG problem!

      The more "commercial intent" a content has, the less it might rank on Google.

      For Google, it is very bad if someone (God beware!) wants to make money with a web site.

      How do i know? Because i saw how simply adding banners or affiliate links can push a page down in rankings significantly.

      I had one page ranking very high on Google for a keyword...so i thought to add one single banner to the page...big mistake.....
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  • Profile picture of the author xMarkPro
    Google has been all over the place lately, and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    Google has been all over the place lately, and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
    Kind of like my dancing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimdalx
    off course it is, u can judge the site from its rank
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlotte Jay
    Yes, what Celente said. If the content is crap then it's not to convert your visitors even if it is sitting in the number one slot. No one, especially not me wants to read atrocious spun content that makes no sense. I'd be clicking that red x button quicker than you can fart.
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  • Profile picture of the author christopher jon
    At least Matt Maiden gets it.

    Article writers hate the idea but bad articles work like a charm on adsense sites. The site where that article came from is textbook MFA.

    Quality is the last thing you want. Having a well written article can actually hurt your adsense conversions. You don't want people reading, you don't want to provide answers or solutions, you want people to click on the adsense ads. Once that is done, it's mission accomplished.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by christopher jon View Post

      At least Matt Maiden gets it.

      Article writers hate the idea but bad articles work like a charm on adsense sites. The site where that article came from is textbook MFA.

      Quality is the last thing you want. Having a well written article can actually hurt your adsense conversions. You don't want people reading, you don't want to provide answers or solutions, you want people to click on the adsense ads. Once that is done, it's mission accomplished.
      Yep..until you get a manual review of your site..and then come come crying here into the forum, totally surprised why your account got banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author blend
    My friend works for google and he has told me that the more content, the better in google eyes. They have cracked down on these 1 page websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    I wonder if those backlinks are from a service? Most of them are not even relevant to the topic of weight loss. Anyone notice that?

    Seems to me from that little fact alone, big G still gives weight to "non" relevant content. Keep that in your swipe file. Or was the "non" relevant backlink topic never really a concern to begin with? Hmm?

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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    That article won't stay on the top of the rankings forever. With content like that, it's bound to fall off the face of the Earth eventually. I remember when I was first starting out, many of my sites were outranked by silly spam sites. That's not the case anymore. If you enter with good, quality content, then you'll eventually rank ahead of them.

    And yes, backlinks matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by JamesGw View Post

      That article won't stay on the top of the rankings forever. With content like that, it's bound to fall off the face of the Earth eventually.
      This is for sure.

      It's probably a typically misguided attempt at "article directory marketing" by someone trying the "hit and run" model instead of the "build a business" model. These things come and go (and go and go) all the time.

      Originally Posted by JamesGw View Post

      If you enter with good, quality content, then you'll eventually rank ahead of them.
      Completely.
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  • Profile picture of the author chykee
    I must beg to defer that Google is really strong on quality content when you compare other search engines results to google.....I think the reason why sometimes you stumble on wrong content is because of some other factors.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Genesis1
    it just happens that websites with bad content are show up 1st on the results while real organic content somewhere on the 3rd page
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    • Profile picture of the author dirtdigger
      Back in September warrior ~kev~ was talking about his bounce rates for the different search engines. Google had the highest bounce rate. To me this means that Google is not doing a good job serving up the proper search results.

      And on the above note I find myself using Bing more and more. In my opinion Google's search results are nowhere as good today as they were 18 to 24 months ago.

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