Finding golden keywords

by dsouravs

Posted: 14 years ago 13 replies

Hello,
I am a newbie in IM, learning the basics of IM. Read some ebooks of making money but 1 thing still not clear to me.
How to find keywords which are having high search volume yet low competition.
I read in those books to select a niche, then go to google adwords keyword tool to find the search volume of those keywords then search in google homepage to find out whether those keywords have less competition.
Whenever I try in this method both the conditions are never met simultaneously.
If search vol. is high, competition is high and if comp. is high search vol. is high.
I want step by step guide to solve this problem.
Also tell me the exact number of search volume per month to target and exact number of pages that should be in google where a keyword can be considered less competitive.(10,000 pages or 30,000 pages).

I hope u undrstnd my question. If not ask me to make it more clear. Also don't mention any premium black hat software like seonuke or those. Service providers dont advertise urself here.

Thanks
TC

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Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by sdouravs

Whenever I try in this method both the conditions are never met simultaneously.

I think this is a broad and general problem that many people have found - you're by no means alone. The more popular internet marketing becomes, perhaps the more likely this is to be true.

However ...

The number of competing sites doesn't have to be relevant to you at all. (Yes, I know almost everyone says it must be: they're all wrong).

To take a slightly extreme example which nonetheless illustrates the point: what would you rather compete for: a keyword with 5,000,000 competing sites of which the first 5 in Google's SERP's are recent PR-0/PR-1 domains without impressive backlinks, and one or two directory articles ... or a keyword with 50,000 competing sites of which the whole of the first-page SERP's are well-established authority sites with many backlinks from other well-established authority sites?

You see what I mean, perhaps?

Sometimes competing with 5,000,000 other sites is easy, and competing with 50,000 is absolutely impossible.

This is why you should be ignoring the "number of competing sites".

Like most aspects of internet marketing, it isn't actually about quantity and numerical approaches, at all: it's about quality. What you need to do is analyse the SEO-quality of the sites you find on Google's first-page SERP's, because those are your only real competitors.

Who cares whether they're followed by 1,000 others or by 10,000,000 others?

If your site isn't on the first page, you won't get any organic traffic worth talking about: that's all that matters.

I'm not saying it's necessarily easy to do it this way ... but at least you'll be analysing the right things and thinking about quality instead of quantity, and in this business that's almost always a big step in the right direction.
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dsouravs 14 years ago

Good point..
so is seoquake firefox plugin good to analyse the SEO-quality of the sites found on Google's first-page SERP's.
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- Alexa Smith Banned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by sdouravs
  
  Good point..
  so is seoquake firefox plugin good to analyse the SEO-quality of the sites found on Google's first-page SERP's.
  
  Sorry, I have no idea. I don't use anything like that.
  
  But I suspect that the forum's search function will produce answers to that question (which has surely been discussed here many times before?). Or, failing that, you could even start off a thread in the "Reviews" section with the words "SEOQuake Firefox Plugin" in the title line, asking "is it any good"?
  
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JamesGw 14 years ago

I've come to the conclusion that if you're looking to build a legitimate business, then you don't really have any reason to worry about competitors. If you work hard enough, you can hang with them no matter what. That said, Alexa made a good point about the relevance of the competition. Scope out the first ten results for your keyword to see how strong they are.

I just wouldn't throw everything into a low competition niche unless you're offering something really unique or useful. It's usually low competition for a reason.
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MingJong 14 years ago

I would say using Google Keywords Tool only as a reference / estimation. If you want to find out the competitiveness of the keyword, you only need to analyze the top 10 websites on page 1 of Google and you can get a gauge yourself.

Some of the things I watch out for the top 10 sites is PR - if they are authority sites (such as wikipedia, about.com, etc...). It would be hard to compete with them. IF the average PR is less than 2 , it is considered easy to compete.

The other thing you should be aware is that the buying intent of the keyword. Some keywords are just too broad and without buying intent. So, always target the keywords with buying intent. The search volume might be less but you will a lot better conversion

Cheers,
MingJong
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Andrea Wilson 14 years ago

The golden keywords will always be the keywords which shall convert. Buying keywords as always suggested by our fellow warriors will be more valuable than keywords with low competition but no sales!

Andrea
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- AnniePot 14 years ago
  
  My logic regarding both keywords and SEO is that if I want my blog/website to be productive, I need to get it onto Page One of Google when specific keywords are searched for. The higher up Page One the better.
  
  So, my competition is those 10 websites already occupying Page One. Pages 2 - 999 or whatever, are of no interest to me. Those 10 websites are already outranking them.
  
  For a long time I have used Market Samurai to provide me with the detailed information on those 10 competing websites. It shows me everything I need to know, then it's simply up to me to try to beat them.
  
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  Bill Eliott 14 years ago
  
  Thanks for this reminder Annie, had forgotten about this tool, lost to me in the vast maze of the congested IM world.
  
  Ciao,
  
  Bill
  
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  AnniePot 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Elliot
  
  Thanks for this reminder Annie, had forgotten about this tool, lost to me in the vast maze of the congested IM world.
  
  Ciao,
  
  Bill
  
  Sometimes (not often), the golden oldies are still the best...
  
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zedert 14 years ago

find a niche where real people really want to buy and where you can beat the competition.
Focus on real people, and their needs.
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Guru57 14 years ago

You have a lot of great advice here. sometimes it takes some time but it can be done. The more research behind the keyword the better.
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Omayra 14 years ago

You should consider that starting a business online can take a long time if you lean to a course or materials developed for this purpose. Believes that without effort you will achieve great results, competition is good because it takes you to another level. What I can recommend is perseverance and dedication and never giving up. Do not think that making money online is a business that is done in the overnight, you'll prove yourself. Do not give up.
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John Williamson 14 years ago

I'd suggest investing in Keyword Sniper Pro. If I had had it when I started out, I'd prob be way further ahead than where I'm at now.
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