Spun article: Is 55% unique good?

ex9to5guy

15 years ago

i always make mine at least 70 percent unique

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TBInternetMarketing

15 years ago

55 is good enough for me usually. It also depends what you plan on doing with that article? If you are submitting it to a private network of blogs that insist that each article is 100% unique, then it won't be enough, but if you are just blasting it out to random article directories and not really cared if anyone reads it, that should do the trick.

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esdavis

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing

It also depends what you plan on doing with that article? If you are submitting it to a private network of blogs that insist that each article is 100% unique, then it won't be enough, but if you are just blasting it out to random article directories and not really cared if anyone reads it, that should do the trick.

For me, the destination is the real key. It needs to be good enough to pass muster on the external site and it needs to be structured well enough and readable enough to satisfy the target audience.

Some people say that if you don't care about people reading it who cares? I'm not really there, because I don't want to put my name (even a pen name) on something that reads so badly I'd be afraid to see it indexed 10 years from now, read or not. And I sure wouldn't put my CLIENT's name on it.

% of spin doesn't mean quite as much to me as the quality level of the content. Not everything needs to be Pulitizer Prize stuff, but it must be good enough for the venue. It's your content and your reputation on the line.

A little cliched, but would you be comfortable showing it to your Mom, your best friend, or your Grandma and having them try to read it? If you think it will make them feel disappointed in your content and your demonstrated skills, maybe isn't not well written enough.

Oops, wait. If it was MY currently deceased Grandma, I'd wonder about the rolling over in the grave thing. :-) Sorry, trying to be a little funny.

Regarding the spinning technique, don't forget to also spin and optionally leave out or add in full paragraphs as well as words, phrases, and sentences. One way that spun articles get caught is they all have the same paragraph count. So swapping out here helps a little more with the % and with the unique look and feel to the article.

Some people also have some "stock phrases or sentences" that they tuck into the content as an "optional" spin if it fits the structure and content. That adds yet a little more uniqueness. I keep a little library on hand to tap quickly for that when I rewrite.

I try to avoid anything less than 50% for even really stupid basic link bait, but I'm conservative. For what I call "real content" I'd say that 70-75% number is better, and even that isn't probably good enough for places like EZA that demand "never published unique" content.

Especially after Panda.

All in all, it's your call. You'll find people all the way from who cares to no spinning. Just ask yourself if you're proud enough to put your name on it and get caught as the author.

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stunning boy 15 years ago

well it is good enough but to rewrite or create an unique content is much better
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That Guy

15 years ago

Try to rewrite & spin entire sentences and then spin the words of the each of the sentences. Helps a TON when trying to get a better % uniqueness. I usually go for > 65%.

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Andrew S

15 years ago

I combine multiple articles together and then spin the words between those...we get about 90%+ unique using that method.

But 50% is better than nothing.

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15 years ago

55% should be okay. I heard that 30% is minimum, so your percentage should be way above that to be safe.

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Sam Dhawan

15 years ago

Better if you avoid spun content as it does not usually rank highly (or at all) in the search engines. The search engines also devalue backlinks coming from spun content in much the same way as they devalue backlinks from duplicate content.

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frans4u

15 years ago

50% is good to me, but if you can do more much better.

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thebitbotdotcom

15 years ago

Even more important...make sure that they read well. Never submit spun articles that send ANY signal to the reader that it has been spun. This is even more important than uniqueness.

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seothatworks

15 years ago

55% is good enough for article submissions etc but not content for your site

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saloni

14 years ago

55-60 uniqueness is good for article. but i want above 70% always...

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GuybrushT

14 years ago

For lower quality sites, I used to rewrite every sentence of the same article 3 or 4 times, and then word spin the whole thing, everything manually. This way the end results were unique enough and readable, but it's a lot of work, and the higher quality sites wouldn't always accept it.

This method is still great for second or third tier links, but when liking directly to the money site, now I only use unique content. This way I don't have to worry about my links getting removed, and the results are much better too. A tip for effective article writing: use Dragon Naturally Speaking instead of typing, and just say whatever comes to your mind, you'll be able to churn out article after article. Best of all, everything will be perfetly readable, and 100% unique!

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octavyo 14 years ago

I recommend to be very carefull with spinning as it`s a critical process.

In my opinion normal spinning like spinning at word level it`s considered spam these days and Google is smart enough to detect such spintax.

Here`s what i recommend :

Step 1:

Spin the article first at sentence level. If you want spin each sentence 2 times or more (even tough 1 time is enough).

Step 2 :

After the article is spun at sentence level try to identify first the synonyms inside each sentence and spin those as well.

Step 3 :

Once you`ve done step 2 take the article word by word and try to spin each word.

Spinning an article in this way takes a lot more time but the results are well worth. The spinning i achieve using this formula is minimum 100%+ uniqueness (depending actually how many times you spin each sentence).

Can you see the formula here ? By spinning each sentence 1-3 times you instantly create 1-3 brand new articles but we do one step ahead and spin these also at synomys and word level.

It`s the safest way to spin an article these days and leaving no footprints whatsoever.

Practically here we do an advanced nested spinning which is what i personally recommend for best results.
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Campbell24

14 years ago

For article submissions I only make sure to go for 30% unique. If you are posting to directories with PR then this shouldn't matter for linking purposes.

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Steffy Rose

14 years ago

generally, i won't spin an article. it may hurt our website some day. According to me quality and unique article is 100% good .. isn't it??

Originally Posted by livemusic

I spent a lot of time spinning an article in The Best Spinner, which I just downloaded today. A 773 word article, is 55% good? How unique do some people get with a spinner?

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evilsaigon

14 years ago

70% should be the bare minimum, but you can actually hit as high as the 90's. Unfortunately, 55% uniqueness is still fairly risky of getting penalized by big G.

When it's more than 90% unique, it basically as good as a complete new article. You don't even need to worry about any penalties because at 90+%, it's virtually impossible to tell that it was spun from another article! You will however do this manually because no spinners are advanced enough to hit that level, but it's really a lot easier than it looks because you don't to do any research as the content is all there.

Do it once and do it good, and you can benefit in peace. If you spin half-heartedly, it might turn around and bite you.

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Silence

14 years ago

Google Panda Update will drop the rankings of your spun articles soon.

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jaisonjohn

14 years ago

Its not always a best practise to spun the articles for submission, its more important to prepare your own article

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expcontent

14 years ago

My experience is that spun content is somewhat useful for second or third-tier sites, but more dangerous than useful for your money sites. If you're posting spun content, try to keep the uniqueness percentage as high as possible and post it several degrees away from your money site (eg. as the third or fourth level in a link pyramid).

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andrewkar

14 years ago

spun content is sh***

It should not be used at all.

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NS Services

14 years ago

Forget the percentage. Focus on providing value to visitor and engaging them through your content. Thats if you want to build a real business and not use fly-by-night methods to artificially inflate your rankings only to get destroyed by next Googles update.

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RedShifted

14 years ago

No offense but people who say spun articles are garbage have no idea what they're talking about.

Article spinning is a skill, not a tool. Its not the software thats the problem, but the people using it. Same exact thing with guns. Some men own and use guns responsibly, some men use them to kill their wives.

Ever since I incorporated article spinning, the quality of my articles has improved. How dare I say it. Because when you're not forcing yourself to write loads of content everyday, you can put more time into each article.

Here is another thing. When writing 100% "original" articles, they're still not "original". You're still taking the same basic ideas from your head. And there is a good chance you will wind up saying the same exact things over and over, considering how much content it takes to rank for certain keywords.

Try writing 1000 "original" articles about Freud.

"Dr. Freud use to use cocaine but was a very smart man".
"Dr. Freud was a very smart man, but use to use cocaine".
"Dr. Freud used cocaine on occassion, but had a really high IQ".

Those are my 3 original, 1 sentence articles about Dr. Freud. =]

But seriously, sure I can write better content. And I do. The point is, the amount of content it takes to rank a website, can quickly cause serious writers block and fatigue. So spinning content definitely has its uses. If you don't like it, don't use it. Spend the rest of your life writing articles. But please say something more useful than "spun content is garbage". Say something like "people need to put more time into their spun content". Then give some tips on how to do it. Otherwise, you're not really helping the problem. And if you don't want to help, then why say anything?

One final point. I know enough businesses, that have been around for long enough, to know for certain you can run a "real business" while incorporating spun content. Saying you can't run a "real business" is just idiotic. Like spun articles all a sudden make a business fake lol. Even though I see tons of businesses doing it, and making lots of money. Year after year after year.

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sweetdreamfactory Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

No offense but people who say spun articles are garbage have no idea what they're talking about.

Yes I agree.. as long as the quality of the rewritten article or spun article are good we cannot say it's a garbage. It can be considered garbage with the way it was spun. Blame it to the tool.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

No offense but people who say spun articles are garbage have no idea what they're talking about.

Article spinning is a skill, not a tool. Its not the software thats the problem, but the people using it. Same exact thing with guns. Some men own and use guns responsibly, some men use them to kill their wives.

Ever since I incorporated article spinning, the quality of my articles has improved. How dare I say it. Because when you're not forcing yourself to write loads of content everyday, you can put more time into each article.

Here is another thing. When writing 100% "original" articles, they're still not "original". You're still taking the same basic ideas from your head. And there is a good chance you will wind up saying the same exact things over and over, considering how much content it takes to rank for certain keywords.

Try writing 1000 "original" articles about Freud.

"Dr. Freud use to use cocaine but was a very smart man".
"Dr. Freud was a very smart man, but use to use cocaine".
"Dr. Freud used cocaine on occassion, but had a really high IQ".

Those are my 3 original, 1 sentence articles about Dr. Freud. =]

But seriously, sure I can write better content. And I do. The point is, the amount of content it takes to rank a website, can quickly cause serious writers block and fatigue. So spinning content definitely has its uses. If you don't like it, don't use it. Spend the rest of your life writing articles. But please say something more useful than "spun content is garbage". Say something like "people need to put more time into their spun content". Then give some tips on how to do it. Otherwise, you're not really helping the problem. And if you don't want to help, then why say anything?

One final point. I know enough businesses, that have been around for long enough, to know for certain you can run a "real business" while incorporating spun content. Saying you can't run a "real business" is just idiotic. Like spun articles all a sudden make a business fake lol. Even though I see tons of businesses doing it, and making lots of money. Year after year after year.

I am not sure if this was in reply to my post but just to clarify. I dont see anything wrong with unique spun content as long as every copy of the spin makes perfect sense and visitor cant tell the difference. At the end the only thing that really matters is providing your visitor the value and engaging the audience because thats the most important thing in todays world.

So I am against all the automated softwares being used to spin and churn out complete garbage that is hard to understand and even a real visitor cannot comprehend a single sentence but using mutations while making sure that end product is as good as an article written from scratch can def. save time if one person has to write on same topic more than a few times.

That's why I never have one writer write more than one article on same topic/subject instead I get multiple writers and give them all same topic that way everyone is sharing their own unique views, research and findings.

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andrewkar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

No offense but people who say spun articles are garbage have no idea what they're talking about.

Article spinning is a skill, not a tool. Its not the software thats the problem, but the people using it. Same exact thing with guns. Some men own and use guns responsibly, some men use them to kill their wives.

Ever since I incorporated article spinning, the quality of my articles has improved. How dare I say it. Because when you're not forcing yourself to write loads of content everyday, you can put more time into each article.

Here is another thing. When writing 100% "original" articles, they're still not "original". You're still taking the same basic ideas from your head. And there is a good chance you will wind up saying the same exact things over and over, considering how much content it takes to rank for certain keywords.

Try writing 1000 "original" articles about Freud.

"Dr. Freud use to use cocaine but was a very smart man".
"Dr. Freud was a very smart man, but use to use cocaine".
"Dr. Freud used cocaine on occassion, but had a really high IQ".

Those are my 3 original, 1 sentence articles about Dr. Freud. =]

But seriously, sure I can write better content. And I do. The point is, the amount of content it takes to rank a website, can quickly cause serious writers block and fatigue. So spinning content definitely has its uses. If you don't like it, don't use it. Spend the rest of your life writing articles. But please say something more useful than "spun content is garbage". Say something like "people need to put more time into their spun content". Then give some tips on how to do it. Otherwise, you're not really helping the problem. And if you don't want to help, then why say anything?

One final point. I know enough businesses, that have been around for long enough, to know for certain you can run a "real business" while incorporating spun content. Saying you can't run a "real business" is just idiotic. Like spun articles all a sudden make a business fake lol. Even though I see tons of businesses doing it, and making lots of money. Year after year after year.

Ohh of course... Lehman Brothers
they were doing so good, “year after year after year”...
…such a good and LEGIT business.

BTW, the fact that you “know enough businesses” doesn’t make your statement true… or false… or anything.

Spun content is just pure Garbage, that's all it is. No offense.

When someone know his subject very well, and is actually excited while thinking, talking and writing about it, that person can do it all the time.. and produce huge amounts of high quality content... because that person is an expert (or almost expert).

I know because I am one.

If someone can't write at least 5 decent articles a day about things he or she loves... then I don't know... maybe that person should change plans? and start doing something different?

Here is the The True about ranking content.

If someone wrote great article, and I mean great (and only real expert can do it... and fast) then that person doesn’t need to worry about "ranking keywords" (BTW lately I’m finding this phrase “ranking keywords” a little pathetic...)

So to rank content high and get a lot of interest all it takes is to write just ONE great article, that's all. Now, who can do it?

Just someone who truly knows what he or she is writing about...

All the other methods are artificial pumping of Google serps. I’m really disappointed by looking at tones of those sites… same content, same style, same information… same BS all the way. Written by fellows who have no idea about topic… everyone can smell it.

So, those spun articles don’t help to rank good content high, but make web a huge rubbish bin full o wannabe experts and wannabe businessmen. .. and their crappy sites.

There is no such thing as “writer’s block” like there is no such thing as “runner’s block”. There are just challenges on the way, that’s all.

So that’s my opinion abut spun content, it’s just pure BS and rubbish.

But for me, this is actually not that bad. There is many people still practicing this, and it helps ME stand out of the crowd… it makes real difference between my content and spun content.

So I guess, everyone and everything has its place in this world.

P.S If you can't write, get expert to do it for you. I mean not expert writer, but expert on that topic and who is passionate about it. Ok, that's it free ride is over.

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RedShifted

14 years ago