What so good about SENukeX? It doesnt seem to worth the price?

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I have heard a lot of good things about SENukeX myself and finally got a chance to test it out last week. Signed up for 14 days free trail and I am not too sure if its even worth the subscription.

I am sure a lot of you have success with it but as a new user, I dont find the 'as much' potential in it as others. Please keep in mind that these are just my personal opinion.

1. Article Submission
- Does not allow importing your own list
- Although most of the default directories are high PR, but arent auto-approved
- it requires "the best spinner' to achieve best results (for spinning articles)

- Why not use Article Marketing Robot instead? Much faster and allowing your own list of directories?

2. Social Bookmarking
- Does not allow importing your own list

Why not use Book Marking Demon instead? (dont have much experience with this one)

3. RSS/Indexer
- I dont think this is even half as good as what linklicious offers. For $14.50, i find it much easier and more effective, especially they are specialized with this.

Linklicious instead?

4. Web 2.0 / forum profile
- In terms of 'forum account creation', i dont think it is nearly as good as Xrumer. The are a great deal of 'potential' web 2.0 properties missing from the list - where they have to be done manual anyways.

Xrumer / Manaul instead?

5. Video Submission
- This is one of the feature I like the most, but the default list is quite short and most of them arent auto approved. Even so, I cant find any other good video submission software out there to compete with it at the moment.


So in conclusion, I think SENukeX is simply a all-in-one software with no expertise or specailization in any fields. Once again, these are just based on my personal opinion. Being said, i am VERY new to it and I am looking for some response about this.

Any inputs will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
#good #price #senukex #worth
  • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
    Originally Posted by Seofarmer View Post

    I have heard a lot of good things about SENukeX myself and finally got a chance to test it out last week. Signed up for 14 days free trail and I am not too sure if its even worth the subscription.

    I am sure a lot of you have success with it but as a new user, I dont find the 'as much' potential in it as others. Please keep in mind that these are just my personal opinion.

    1. Article Submission
    - Does not allow importing your own list
    - Although most of the default directories are high PR, but arent auto-approved
    - it requires "the best spinner' to achieve best results (for spinning articles)

    - Why not use Article Marketing Robot instead? Much faster and allowing your own list of directories?

    2. Social Bookmarking
    - Does not allow importing your own list

    Why not use Book Marking Demon instead? (dont have much experience with this one)

    3. RSS/Indexer
    - I dont think this is even half as good as what linklicious offers. For $14.50, i find it much easier and more effective, especially they are specialized with this.

    Linklicious instead?

    4. Web 2.0 / forum profile
    - In terms of 'forum account creation', i dont think it is nearly as good as Xrumer. The are a great deal of 'potential' web 2.0 properties missing from the list - where they have to be done manual anyways.

    Xrumer / Manaul instead?

    5. Video Submission
    - This is one of the feature I like the most, but the default list is quite short and most of them arent auto approved. Even so, I cant find any other good video submission software out there to compete with it at the moment.


    So in conclusion, I think SENukeX is simply a all-in-one software with no expertise or specailization in any fields. Once again, these are just based on my personal opinion. Being said, i am VERY new to it and I am looking for some response about this.

    Any inputs will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    So what your saying is, purchase BMD, Xrumer, Linklicious subscription, post manual web 2.0's, manual video submission, AMR, then run them all separately and collect links and keep going over and over or just pay 130/month for everything put together, and to run it on a scheduled time.

    130/month may be lots to some but when you make that in 1-2 days time it's something you need to have.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seofarmer
      Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

      So what your saying is, purchase BMD, Xrumer, Linklicious subscription, post manual web 2.0's, manual video submission, AMR, then run them all separately and collect links and keep going over and over or just pay 130/month for everything put together, and to run it on a scheduled time.

      130/month may be lots to some but when you make that in 1-2 days time it's something you need to have.
      Thats a good point. Thanks for the input.
      I dont have Xrumer and not really looking to purchase it, probably going to outsource those Forum profile creation if I have to.

      But yeah, beside the all-in-one benefits, i dont see any other 'pros' in it.
      Not to mention it doesnt really feature any expertise.

      its just my personal opinion here.

      EDIT: In addition, what i am concerned is blassting the same list every time? Do they really help at all?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        TOTAL absolute waste of money for the average IMer. The only people making big bucks off of this is the people selling it and the people offering it as a service. Over the course of one year you are spending just short of $2,000

        Go with AMR for $80 in a WSO here, BMD for What a $100 and then invest in real liks with Real authority not some newly created Forum N/a links that google is rendering weaker and weaker as the days go buy.

        A person cold build their own network of site with that cash
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        • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          TOTAL absolute waste of money for the average IMer. The only people making big bucks off of this is the people selling it and the people offering it as a service. Over the course of one year you are spending just short of $2,000

          Go with AMR for $80 in a WSO here, BMD for What a $100 and then invest in real liks with Real authority not some newly created Forum N/a links that google is rendering weaker and weaker as the days go buy.

          A person cold build their own network of site with that cash
          Well that total absolute waste of money actually got me to about $50-80/day within a month and a half.

          Curious how much time you spend backlinking and how little time you spend scaling your ideas.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

            Well that total absolute waste of money actually got me to about $50-80/day within a month and a half.

            Curious how much time you spend backlinking and how little time you spend scaling your ideas.
            People say all kinds of things on this forum about what they make off of this or that and some are not making a dime. People were makiing $50,$100, $200 a day without SenukeX. Some have done it with AMR alone. Senuke has no magic in it it just allows you to rearrange The N/a links it gives in patterns that people then come in and say are somehow special.

            I'll tell you what though. if you really are making $50 a day within 6 weeks and its more than possible and easy don't pat SenukeX on the back. It was your keyword research that found you a weak soft serp.

            And no takes you nothing to scale your idea when you build your own network. Go in place your link on your site and move to the next one and then next one and rank. Want it automated too? easy simple macro tool. One time purchase under a hundred dollars.
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            • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              People say all kinds of things on this forum about what they make off of this or that and some are not making a dime. People were makiing $50,$100, $200 a day without SenukeX. Some have done it with AMR alone. Senuke has no magic in it it just allows you to rearrange The N/a links it gives in patterns that people then come in and say are somehow special.

              I'll tell you what though. if you really are making $50 a day within 6 weeks and its more than possible and easy don't pat SenukeX on the back. It was your keyword research that found you a weak soft serp.

              And no takes you nothing to scale your idea when you build your own network. Go in place your link on your site and move to the next one and then next one and rank. Want it automated too? easy simple macro tool. One time purchase under a hundred dollars.
              Senuke has updated and it places it in automatically, but my own network seems like a great idea actually. would diversify my backlinking and give me some high pr links.

              Seems tough to get your own network of 30-50+ websites not with atleast PR1+ or something..or would you go and pick up expiring high PR domains and grab all the content and republish it?
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post


                Seems tough to get your own network of 30-50+ websites not with atleast PR1+ or something..or would you go and pick up expiring high PR domains and grab all the content and republish it?

                Nowhere as tough as you think. Yes you could go the aged domains route. You can also get Pr links from many sites that may not be in your present niche but you don't care about that when you are building a network. there are all kinds of ways to jumpstart it too with the near $2,000 a year you won't be spending on SenukeX.
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                • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                  Nowhere as tough as you think. Yes you could go the aged domains route. You can also get Pr links from many sites that may not be in your present niche but you don't care about that when you are building a network. there are all kinds of ways to jumpstart it too with the near $2,000 a year you won't be spending on SenukeX.
                  Could you get slapped pretty easily with having them all hosted under the same company/IP/ whatever else may leave a footprint? I'd love to talk on skype with you about this.
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                  • Profile picture of the author packerfan
                    Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

                    Could you get slapped pretty easily with having them all hosted under the same company/IP/ whatever else may leave a footprint? I'd love to talk on skype with you about this.
                    I'm no expert on this, but I think you would want to have them hosted on multiple hosting companies, in multiple countries.

                    Also, if you don't want to have your own network there are services out there (even on this forum) that you can use that accomplish the same thing.

                    Not as much control as having your own network, but might be a good way for you test the results.
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            • Profile picture of the author dragondf
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              People say all kinds of things on this forum about what they make off of this or that and some are not making a dime. People were makiing $50,$100, $200 a day without SenukeX. Some have done it with AMR alone. Senuke has no magic in it it just allows you to rearrange The N/a links it gives in patterns that people then come in and say are somehow special.

              I'll tell you what though. if you really are making $50 a day within 6 weeks and its more than possible and easy don't pat SenukeX on the back. It was your keyword research that found you a weak soft serp.

              And no takes you nothing to scale your idea when you build your own network. Go in place your link on your site and move to the next one and then next one and rank. Want it automated too? easy simple macro tool. One time purchase under a hundred dollars.
              I like this post from Mike Anthony, for this I quoted it here.

              Let's talk first about the PRICE. PRICE IS PRICE, ok? So, you can have a car for 5,000 or 50,000. With these 2 cars you will can go from one place to another.

              I describe the cars for one ANALOGY, ok?
              What is a car?
              It is a way that make possible you go from one place to another in a specific time. Some of them have radio, conditioned air, etc.

              Let's talk about SOFTWARES, ok?
              Like cars, there are a lot of softwares in the market. Some of them promise you a lot of things.

              This phrase resume something about some SOFTWARES:
              TOTAL absolute waste of money for the average IMer. The only people making big bucks off of this is the people selling it and the people offering it as a service. Over the course of one year you are spending just short of $2,000
              Can you imagine how many people earn money with CAR'S INDUSTRY? Fuel, rental, specialized services, clean, gps, etc.

              $120 is (590/120 = 4,91) almost 5 times the price you pay for a Xrumer license forever (+10$ for month).

              I used Xrumer like an example. There are a lot of softwares that can create accounts, etc. Some of them have OCR integrated. Not use Browsers to work, etc etc.


              MY BIG QUESTION IS:
              WHAT SENUKE CAN DO THAT OTHERS YOU CAN BUY FOREVER CAN NOT?


              "Oh, I can click and it does everything for me, automatic". Oh, please, let's be sincere, this software does not exist. ALL SOFTWARES you need to do something.


              About EARN money with Senuke, CONGRATULATIONS! It is good to know that people can make this software useful. Like I am very happy to know that Market Samurai, IBP, Xrumer and others.


              For me the best software is: YOUR OWN MIND.


              To conclude: I think the price people ask for Senuke is OVERPRICED.



              I hope others SENUKE's friends can came here to "protect" Senuke or give good reviews about what IT HAS that OTHERS has not.

              When this happen, I will bring more info about others softwares that make what Senuke does (alone or not) for a LOW PRICE.

              Good lucky!

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

      So what your saying is, purchase BMD, Xrumer, Linklicious subscription, post manual web 2.0's, manual video submission, AMR, then run them all separately and collect links and keep going over and over
      Have they come up with any updates for the article submission because last I checked you had to go back in ANYWAY and setup links to your articles when they are accepted and published. Meanwhile just about every piece of software out there is coming with a scheduler built in and for those who don't know Windows has a a scheduler built into it for years - for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    I have SenukeX and it feels lacking. especially compared to the competition.
    However, it provides an All in One solution that the other software do not. It is perfect for a new marketer.

    That said, I've decided to drop it, buy BMD, subscribe to BMR and outsource the article writing, article submissions and web 2.0 creation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seofarmer
    I guess both sides have their opinions afterall

    But i am still under the impression that 'all-in-one' stuff are never 'great'.
    I have read many others that the 'pros' use SENuke, but in fact, I see it as the opposite. The pros usually go with softwares that specialz and expertise in particular feature instead.

    Not saying SENuke is not good, I think the concept behind it is excellent.
    But it lacks of 'flexibility' in terms of allowing users to import their own list and not to mention its an expensive tool.

    What i like about SENuke is how their template + schedule, allows user to get backlinks easily, and get things done with their eyes closed. At the same time, since its so easy, everyone is basically spamming the same list
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      I think it's a good tool, but I just can't justify the money. I have great luck with AMR and BMR, and then I just use fiverr for other stuff I want.

      BMR is a little pricey and requires you to write a lot of content, but the results I see are great.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPR
    I like SEnuke X.

    That is all

    Jonathan
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  • Profile picture of the author VladWorks
    I think if you view SeNuke as touch of a click SEO solution that you can set and forget you will be really disappointed. If you use some of the modules as part of your overall SEO strategy it can be quite effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author amoeba
    i think you forgot to mention the best use of senuke here..
    creating sites on web 2.0 sites..
    so far senuke had around 27-30 sites in total,whhere as in one submission one shud get at max 17-20 successful submissions,,,
    in the latest version there are 21 sites in total...out of which 5 sites are absolutely broken (tripod,livejournal,friendster,slashdot,xanga) it creates account on 2 more sites but does not post to them (shutterfly n bravejournal)...xanga,slashdot and wikispaces needs very good proxy to get successful post , so they are useless mostly...more than 50% of the time gather,onsugar and terapad does not work...oh, how can forget about blogspot and wordpress???? last tym i remember i posted successfully on wordpress using senuke was summer of 2010.. ..
    all in all a good senuke run gets me 9-10 postings to web 2.0 properties..

    if any one thinking about buying senuke x .. dont waste your money and time...stay away...it will bring you only frustration...
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  • Profile picture of the author areebb
    Amoeba, try the new social network module released today

    44 social network sites now! 24 new added! Success rates increased to 90%.
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    • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
      Originally Posted by areebb View Post

      Amoeba, try the new social network module released today

      44 social network sites now! 24 new added! Success rates increased to 90%.
      nuf said. haha
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

        nuf said. haha
        I wonder why? Considering the software comes in at just under $2,000 per year it should have more than 44 times 90% (if that number holds). They should throw in a couple PR4 domains or a few PR3s for that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Josh MacDonald
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          I wonder why? Considering the software comes in at just under $2,000 per year it should have more than 44 times 90% (if that number holds). They should throw in a couple PR4 domains or a few PR3s for that.
          Exactly. I'd even have a hard time paying that $147 or whatever it is for a 1 time. I see it as $97 one-time payment.
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          • Profile picture of the author zerofill
            Originally Posted by macdonjo View Post

            Exactly. I'd even have a hard time paying that $147 or whatever it is for a 1 time. I see it as $97 one-time payment.
            If I was selling it at $97 for a one time payment... I would never update it again lol. Not with the way sites change...
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    • Profile picture of the author amoeba
      Originally Posted by areebb View Post

      Amoeba, try the new social network module released today

      44 social network sites now! 24 new added! Success rates increased to 90%.
      90% success rate? Really? its far away from it...still i ll give it some more time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by amoeba View Post

        90% success rate? Really? its far away from it...still i ll give it some more time.
        BMD gives you plenty more at a one time cost and for article marketing AMR gives you much better features and numbers as well. No contest on those opportunities and you still have a ton of change in your pocket. Don't listen to the affiliate spin on forum profiles being the same as social bookmarking or article directories. Article directories EXIST to receive articles (which specifically allow links) and Bookmarking sites EXIST to take links. Forums do not exist to have profiles made and thats why so many webmasters get upset and delete the links.

        Forum profile links - which SenukeX has most of historically (for those that don't know that refers to any of their past not to the first year of their existence) - are the dogs of even profile links. Not only are they N/As they get deleted and no followed in bulk probably more than any kind of link. They are spammy because 80% of the forum webmasters don't want them on their sites unless you participate on their forums so they remove them

        Your job as an SEO is to get as many diverse links as possible which includes everything you've argued in favor of and against.
        Nope. That may be your job and how you do SEO but there are ton loads of businesses ranking without a single blog comment or forum profile. thats a myth that is easily dismissed by doing some research in the search results. My job as a SEO is to get quality links. There isn't a drop of evidence that you get brownie points with the search engines for having every conceivable junk or no junk kind of link to your site.
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        • Profile picture of the author amoeba
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          BMD gives you plenty more at a one time cost and for article marketing AMR gives you much better features and numbers as well. No contest on those opportunities and you still have a ton of change in your pocket. Don't listen to the affiliate spin on forum profiles being the same as social bookmarking or article directories. Article directories EXIST to receive articles (which specifically allow links) and Bookmarking sites EXIST to take links. Forums do not exist to have profiles made and thats why so many webmasters get upset and delete the links.

          Forum profile links - which SenukeX has most of historically (for those that don't know that refers to any of their past not to the first year of their existence) - are the dogs of even profile links. Not only are they N/As they get deleted and no followed in bulk probably more than any kind of link. They are spammy because 80% of the forum webmasters don't want them on their sites unless you participate on their forums so they remove them

          Nope. That may be your job and how you do SEO but there are ton loads of businesses ranking without a single blog comment or forum profile. thats a myth that is easily dismissed by doing some research in the search results. My job as a SEO is to get quality links. There isn't a drop of evidence that you get brownie points with the search engines for having every conceivable junk or no junk kind of link to your site.
          thats true,,i use bmd and amr...but i am sticking to senuke just for web 2.0 module.thankfully they just rolled out new update with 46 sites..but the maximum successful submissions i got so far is 17 from more than 16 runs on 2 servers..i hope they get better,,i was really loving the old senuke (w/o X),,it was more stable,faster and i used to get better % of success in less time..
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          • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
            I use it and love it is it worth the 2,000 a year. Hell Yeah! No complaints here lol.. Thanks for that little tidbit BTW Zerofill.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    The software is just not worth it. There was so much hype when before X was released. I used it for two months.

    The sites in it are few and there are ALOT of the people using it. So guess what? Those few sites get spammed to death.
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    • Profile picture of the author teatree
      The only reason there was so much hype about it was that affiliates were paid handsomely to promote it. Also - I understand it leaves a footprint and only a matter of time before G deals with it
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      • Profile picture of the author zerofill
        If SENUKE is not helping you you are doing it wrong...

        You use SENUKE in a way where you layer your sites... no matter what Google says or doesn't say... you blast enough profile links and comment links at those junk pages that SENUKE makes and then link to your other properties... the **** works.

        We care about ranking just one stupid page out of about 5 to 10 pages on any of our sites... period.

        Sick of hearing people talk about Google did this...Google did that... Oh Google said this...

        F#@! Google...

        Every time they say something they talk out their asses. Then they silently roll back changes they made anyway and because you listened to them and didn't stay consistent.... You Lose!

        Do you really think that Google if they had sooooo much control over everything they would make it public knowledge that they are devaluing this or that? Hell know... they would want you to waste your time cause then they wouldn't have to worry about fighting you around the next corner when you game them again.

        Ezinearticles, JcPenney, Overstock.com etc... those people were on the radar... They are well known. Your piddly little ass affiliate site isn't on their radar. People that think Google has enough manpower or their algorithm is that intelligent... to sit there and hunt around for every stupid little piece of content with an affiliate link on it... that has a bunch of profile links pointed to it are nuts! Or a bunch of web 2.0s pointing to it...

        A lot of times when we do things with senuke, xrumer, and scrapebox... the **** can take up to 4 months to see results. But often it takes less than 90 days.

        I don't really see what is soooo complicated about doint this...


        Money Site
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        SENUKE blog1---> senuke blog2--->senuke blog 3--->etc...
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        Article/PR 1--->Article/PR 2-->Article/PR 3--> etc...
        (articles, press releases, or whatever above. Some are autoapproved some you have to wait for... have an outsourcer handle this after you get money coming in)
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        Wikis,blogs,etc...
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        xrumer<--->scrapebox (run xrumer, run scrapebox. Run comments found through xrumer that were created by scrapebox, run links created by xrumer through scrapebox multiple times. Make those links... link to your bottom tier.

        Add RSS feeds, and bookmarks where possible... run bookmarks through scrapebox and xrumer... Because bookmarks suck anymore and at times don't get indexed from some places. The fact that your running xrumer's links through scrapebox and vice/versa means many of those will get indexed.

        If you want... run to bulkping.com... generate an RSS feed from the links you have...

        Auto submit those RSS feeds via bulkping and then submit them to feedagg and feedage as well since bulkping doesn't have those....

        Do this process after the site is indexed...
        Over the course fo a couple days... schedule out SENUKE on multiple niches...
        As each one completes you follow the xrumer and scrapebox steps... if you have AMR might as well use that too.

        make sure your keyword research is done well and you will profit. The problem most people have is they sit there and work on one stupid site for a month straight without working on others. Waste of time... eventually the good ones will all catch up and be pulling in money... the bad ones never will and you dumb them.

        Rinse and repeat... eventually you will gain knowledge and start changing up your linking etc... but you need to stay consistent... if your sending out 1000 links a day to a site... keep sending that thing 1000 links a day... if your sending it 5 keep sending it 5... for at least 30-45 days...

        Stay away from Google analytics and Google webmaster tools... never give them a reason to want to know what you are doing.

        This will get beginners moving if they follow through with it. After that... you will start learning form doing and advance on to more ways.

        Hell we send traffic from social sites, cheap PPC (even load 10 pages from 10 different sites in iframes from PPC so one click multiple sites get the traffic. Even have scrips that send the PPC traffic through the Google serp link... use different referrer etc... on that traffic using some other PHP scripts...) That stuff though you don't have to know right now. You will figure it out as you gain more experience...

        Just stay consistent with something... and yeah SENUKE is a tool and it has it's place. Just like any other tool... unfortunately most people don't really know how to use them correctly. Well not unfortunate cause we would have more competition lol.
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        • Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

          If SENUKE is not helping you you are doing it wrong...

          You use SENUKE in a way where you layer your sites... no matter what Google says or doesn't say... you blast enough profile links and comment links at those junk pages that SENUKE makes and then link to your other properties... the **** works.

          We care about ranking just one stupid page out of about 5 to 10 pages on any of our sites... period.

          Sick of hearing people talk about Google did this...Google did that... Oh Google said this...

          F#@! Google...

          Every time they say something they talk out their asses. Then they silently roll back changes they made anyway and because you listened to them and didn't stay consistent.... You Lose!

          Do you really think that Google if they had sooooo much control over everything they would make it public knowledge that they are devaluing this or that? Hell know... they would want you to waste your time cause then they wouldn't have to worry about fighting you around the next corner when you game them again.

          Ezinearticles, JcPenney, Overstock.com etc... those people were on the radar... They are well known. Your piddly little ass affiliate site isn't on their radar. People that think Google has enough manpower or their algorithm is that intelligent... to sit there and hunt around for every stupid little piece of content with an affiliate link on it... that has a bunch of profile links pointed to it are nuts! Or a bunch of web 2.0s pointing to it...

          A lot of times when we do things with senuke, xrumer, and scrapebox... the **** can take up to 4 months to see results. But often it takes less than 90 days.

          I don't really see what is soooo complicated about doint this...


          Money Site
          | | | |
          SENUKE blog1---> senuke blog2--->senuke blog 3--->etc...
          | | | |
          Article/PR 1--->Article/PR 2-->Article/PR 3--> etc...
          (articles, press releases, or whatever above. Some are autoapproved some you have to wait for... have an outsourcer handle this after you get money coming in)
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          Wikis,blogs,etc...
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          xrumer<--->scrapebox (run xrumer, run scrapebox. Run comments found through xrumer that were created by scrapebox, run links created by xrumer through scrapebox multiple times. Make those links... link to your bottom tier.

          Add RSS feeds, and bookmarks where possible... run bookmarks through scrapebox and xrumer... Because bookmarks suck anymore and at times don't get indexed from some places. The fact that your running xrumer's links through scrapebox and vice/versa means many of those will get indexed.

          If you want... run to bulkping.com... generate an RSS feed from the links you have...

          Auto submit those RSS feeds via bulkping and then submit them to feedagg and feedage as well since bulkping doesn't have those....

          Do this process after the site is indexed...
          Over the course fo a couple days... schedule out SENUKE on multiple niches...
          As each one completes you follow the xrumer and scrapebox steps... if you have AMR might as well use that too.

          make sure your keyword research is done well and you will profit. The problem most people have is they sit there and work on one stupid site for a month straight without working on others. Waste of time... eventually the good ones will all catch up and be pulling in money... the bad ones never will and you dumb them.

          Rinse and repeat... eventually you will gain knowledge and start changing up your linking etc... but you need to stay consistent... if your sending out 1000 links a day to a site... keep sending that thing 1000 links a day... if your sending it 5 keep sending it 5... for at least 30-45 days...

          Stay away from Google analytics and Google webmaster tools... never give them a reason to want to know what you are doing.

          This will get beginners moving if they follow through with it. After that... you will start learning form doing and advance on to more ways.

          Hell we send traffic from social sites, cheap PPC (even load 10 pages from 10 different sites in iframes from PPC so one click multiple sites get the traffic. Even have scrips that send the PPC traffic through the Google serp link... use different referrer etc... on that traffic using some other PHP scripts...) That stuff though you don't have to know right now. You will figure it out as you gain more experience...

          Just stay consistent with something... and yeah SENUKE is a tool and it has it's place. Just like any other tool... unfortunately most people don't really know how to use them correctly. Well not unfortunate cause we would have more competition lol.
          I agree. If you know how to use this tool properly, you'll get good results. Nice methods here. Thanks for sharing.
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          Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

          If SENUKE is not helping you you are doing it wrong...

          If you need To pay $2,000 per year to get a pile of N/A links to rank then you are doing something wrong. See how easy that was ?

          I don't really see what is soooo complicated
          I think its simple too $2,000 every year to get a pile of PR zero or N/A links or use it to acquire links with real PR?

          Its sooo uncomplicated.
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          • Profile picture of the author zerofill
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            If you need To pay $2,000 per year to get a pile of N/A links to rank then you are doing something wrong. See how easy that was ?
            Nahhh... I don't build big authority sites... So ranking 1 piece of content off a site fast is right for me and my bank account.

            EDIT: Actually If you care about PageRank, which I don't... guess that makes the difference. Very small thing in the grand scheme of things.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
              page rank = dooooo dooooo

              Linking structure + links (of pretty much any kind) = Win
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              • Profile picture of the author zerofill
                Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                page rank = dooooo dooooo

                Linking structure + links (of pretty much any kind) = Win
                What you mean doooo doooo? You know we have all kinds of PR0s with Page Rank... Well in the serps where it counts. could care less about Google's PR value lol.

                On page SEO + Lots of Links FTW!
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                  Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                  What you mean doooo doooo? You know we have all kinds of PR0s with Page Rank... Well in the serps where it counts. could care less about Google's PR value lol.

                  On page SEO + Lots of Links FTW!
                  DUDE - WTF....LOSER!

                  You've got to have high PR links....if not, fail monster says you will fail!


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                  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
                    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                    DUDE - WTF....LOSER!

                    You've got to have high PR links....if not, fail monster says you will fail!


                    Man... Jeremy just close all our accounts down tomorrow. We just been lucky I think... let's just close up shop now. Just can't get enough high PR links. So there is no way the pages we have had ranking forever as PR0s will stay there now...
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                      Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                      Man... Jeremy just close all our accounts down tomorrow. We just been lucky I think... let's just close up shop now. Just can't get enough high PR links. So there is no way the pages we have had ranking forever as PR0s will stay there now...
                      Exactly. Throw all the software away, get rid of the dedicated servers and just buy some aged domains....game over.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

              Nahhh... I don't build big authority sites... So ranking 1 piece of content off a site fast is right for me and my bank account.
              LOL. Wasn't talking about one big authority site but you are just so into the forum spam thing how would you know what I was referring to?

              EDIT: Actually If you care about PageRank, which I don't... guess that makes the difference. Very small thing in the grand scheme of things.
              Well I do when it comes to links because if I put 20 PR 4s on a page I can rank for some serps where you can't even break onto page one.
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              • Profile picture of the author zerofill
                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                LOL. Wasn't talking about one big authority site but you are just so into the forum spam thing how would you know what I was referring to?



                Well I do when it comes to links because if I put 20 PR 4s on a page I can rank for some serps where you can't even break onto page one.
                Lol... smack PR5s down all the time with PR0s... You actually been testing this? Or just watching Matt Cutts videos?
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                  Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                  Lol... smack PR5s down all the time with PR0s... You actually been testing this? Or just watching Matt Cutts videos?
                  I actually think that Mike is Matt Cutts right hand man. Both of them say alot of the same things...either that or he is a groupie. Not sure which one, but in any case, you really can't debate with him...he's always right.
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                    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                    I actually think that Mike is Matt Cutts right hand man. Both of them say alot of the same things...either that or he is a groupie. Not sure which one, but in any case, you really can't debate with him...he's always right.
                    LOL you know I don't debate... I just instigate...
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                    Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                    but in any case, you really can't debate with him...he's always right.
                    I know. I just can't help it. I just always turn out to be right. its the dardness thing. Like who would have an internet marketing blog and not want to be ranked on the front page of Google for "Internet marketing"? and with the power of 45,000 backlinks - oh the power! - at their Xrummer, senuke loving blast the heavens and every unsuspecting forum owner finger tips - they should be ranked there right? Since PR doesn't matter for links they should be at spot one with a few runs. So um......Que pasa Amigo?

                    Phfft. I know. You wouldn't care about being ranked for that term right? not like theres any money in it? ROFL. Go forth and conquer! only not powerful enough to match the PR links those sites on the front page for that term get.

                    Aw man. did it again. Its just an occupational hazard. Mike's just right again.
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                      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                      I know. I just can't help it. I just always turn out to be right. its the dardness thing. Like who would have an internet marketing blog and not want to be ranked on the front page of Google for "Internet marketing"? and with the power of 45,000 backlinks - oh the power! - at their Xrummer, senuke loving blast the heavens and every unsuspecting forum owner finger tips - they should be ranked there right? Since PR doesn't matter for links they should be at spot one with a few runs. So um......Que pasa Amigo?

                      Phfft. I know. You wouldn't care about being ranked for that term right? not like theres any money in it? ROFL. Go forth and conquer! only not powerful enough to match the PR links those sites on the front page for that term get.

                      Aw man. did it again. Its just an occupational hazard. Mike's just right again.
                      I don't think we have ever built links to our blog. We don't post on it enough. Don't have the time to care where it ranks lol.

                      Why would you build links to a blog like ours without posting on it more than 6 times a year?

                      Wouldn't make sense... Rank #1 and still not make money if you aren't doing anything with the site... Hurrrr Durrrrr ... I don't like to blog. Neither does Jeremy... Don't need a site to prove what we know or have accomplished. Enough people know it already... But thanks for caring.
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                        Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                        I don't think we have ever built links to our blog. We don't post on it enough. Don't have the time to care where it ranks lol.
                        ROFL. Uh-huh. Now how many intelligent people have you convinced that as an Internet marketer you would not like to rank for the phrase "internet marketing". and none of your customers either right? LOL Dodge and weave baby. Dodge and weave. Cause God knows none of your customers like to blog either right?
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                          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                          ROFL. Uh-huh. Now how many intelligent people have you convinced that as an Internet marketer you would not like to rank for the phrase "internet marketing". and none of your customers either right? LOL Dodge and weave baby. Dodge and weave. Cause God knows none of your customers like to blog either right?

                          errr...not long ago, we all but "disappeared" from the IM niche for MONTHS...This isn't our "niche"....

                          Check and see when the last time we posted to our blog was.

                          See if you can find one other piece of content out there from us about internet marketing...I don't think you will.

                          Nobody is saying you're "wrong" Mike...I for one am just saying that you're way isn't the only way, and that's been proven thousands and thousands of time.
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                          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                          ROFL. Uh-huh. Now how many intelligent people have you convinced that as an Internet marketer you would not like to rank for the phrase "internet marketing". and none of your customers either right? LOL Dodge and weave baby. Dodge and weave. Cause God knows none of your customers like to blog either right?
                          Uhhhh.... dunno. Never tried to convince anyone... Your under the impression that most of our money comes from MMO products or something...

                          I really don't know if my customers like to blog. We use blogs to put up sites fast. Not to blog on them... Hell I rarely talk on forums or anything anymore. I sure as hell am not going to spend time blogging about dumb crap. Never asked our lists "Hey do you guys like to blog?" lol

                          You should actually go out and rank for "internet Marketing" seems to be the only search phrase you like or something.
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                            Originally Posted by zerofill View Post


                            You should actually go out and rank for "internet Marketing" seems to be the only search phrase you like or something.
                            No not at all .... Here since you can't handle that . try these on for size. (See I can show in the serps the total nonsense of the claim that profile backlinsk are on par with real quality links but you can;t so you have to dodge and weave.)

                            Go for it

                            Google

                            No one in IM care about weight loss either right?


                            Google

                            No one is on the vitamin health gig right?

                            Or how about this dandy -------- Backlinks --- the very serp that was used to tout how powerful profile backlinks were

                            backlinks - Google Search

                            You CLAIM to be a SEO. Do the backlink check on the top four there and tell me why EVEN in the term that used to sell profile backlinks HIGH PR backlinks are now being used to prop up that ranking in that serp and NO ONE ranks on profile backlinks alone anymore for that term?

                            Cause its weak which means that a tool that utilizes mostly that is not worth that much which IS the subject of this thread.
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                            • Profile picture of the author zerofill
                              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                              You CLAIM to be a SEO.
                              Where did I claim to be an SEO? Besides the fact... how can a person be a "Search Engine Optimization" ???

                              Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                              Nobody is saying you're "wrong" Mike...I for one am just saying that you're way isn't the only way, and that's been proven thousands and thousands of time.
                              No here is where the difference is actually.

                              Mike is someone that wants to work on client sites for months and months or even on his own site(s) for massively high traffic keywords. Good for him... I never knocked that.

                              We on the other hand pick and choose what we can rank for, and rank fast for. Thus... ranking twice as many pages in less time. We aren't going after necessarily keywords that are doing 400k searches a month. We might be going for one that only does 300 we might be going for one that does 6600... We might rank several of those terms in the same niche and pull in combines traffic totals from 3 or 4 easier to rank for keywords.

                              The difference between Mike and You and I and many others is... what we do works as well. But Mike feels as if the only way that works is his way. Eventually he will bend to other people's ways of doing things working also or he won't. I don't really care if he does or he doesn't.

                              I just know that we can spend less time ranking 20 pages for various keywords that amount to the same amount of traffic total as many people spend ranking for one damn phrase. I'm happier with that...

                              He is also under the impression the only thing we do is Xrumer, SENUKE, and Scrapebox... and we do nothing else but those. Which is fine with me he can think what he wants to about that.

                              But he seems to hate automation tools of any kind. That is his prerogative. Hell I didn't like automation tools at first either. But I damn sure do now lol.

                              No one is going to get me to argue the point that Good backlinks aren't of more value than forum profiles, and blog comments, etc...

                              But the topic is being twisted into that...

                              What I am saying is... I can do less work and get great results. versus doing more work and getting the same or slightly better results over a longer period of time.

                              I believe in volume... just like selling more products at a lower price and making more money versus selling at a higher price with way fewer sales. Same thing to me...

                              The faster I can do my keyword research, crank out the sites, get links built, get a page on those sites to rank... the faster money comes in. No one can argue that no matter how they do their backlinking. The faster you can rank something the quicker you are likely to make money.

                              We do things differently... We don't say it is "the only way." However Mike you seem to think your way is the only way period. It just ain't so man...

                              As far as what professional SEOs do versus what the WSO sellers do that you condemn here... Doesn't really hold any weight. Because I don't know of any SEO certification that proves someone is some professional SEO. Only track records prove that. I also never claimed to be a professional SEO... nor would I ever because there really is no such thing that I am aware of. professional SEO just came into play the last 10 years with people branding themselves as professional SEOs.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                                Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                                Where did I claim to be an SEO? Besides the fact... how can a person be a "Search Engine Optimization" ???
                                They can't be a Search Engine Optimizer?:rolleyes:

                                Mike is someone that wants to work on client sites for months and months or even on his own site(s) for massively high traffic keywords. Good for him...
                                You have no clue what Mike does or doesn't do. Going after long tail does not take months and months. Your are dodging, weaving and distorting now to suit your point. In fact your claim is out and out garbage. If you have built a network putting a series of links on your own site takes no longer to drop links than sites that do not belong to you. A sufficiently large enough network you will rank for long tail quickly.

                                We on the other hand pick and choose what we can rank for, and rank fast for.
                                Bogus nonsense again you have no idea of the terms I go for and how fast I rank. Sometimes customers want to aggregate long tails to make up their traffic and sometimes they want to go for the big terms which take longer. you can make no appeal to knowing what I rank for or how fast I do particularly since I d not offer WSOs here and you have Nothing, nada, to go off of to make that sales pitch. It is entirely based on the traffic the customer is after

                                The difference between Mike and You and I and many others is... what we do works as well. But Mike feels as if the only way that works is his way
                                Mike was discussing the worth of a piece of software before some people who sell the service interjected themselves into it complaining that there was another strongly stated point of view than their own love affair and frankly at this point they are now using it to advertise their service claiming to be faster than a speed they are entirely unaware of.

                                I just know that we can spend less time ranking 20 pages for various keywords that amount to the same amount of traffic total as many people spend ranking for one damn phrase. I'm happier with that...
                                is the ad over? because I think most people can now see that you have no clue what I rank for and your claim that you can rank faster than someone who you know nothing about is inherently and obviously bogus.

                                No one is going to get me to argue the point that Good backlinks aren't of more value than forum profiles, and blog comments, etc...

                                But the topic is being twisted into that...[
                                Scroll up to see who started that but welcome aboard. We agree it was perfectly silly to object.

                                Meanwhile it is impossible to discuss the value of a piece of software without having pros and cons. SO I took the cons. You can take the pros but it was all rather silly to claim that a PR N/A is on the same level with a PR4 and that Pageranks of links have no bearing on ranking. Its totally ridiculous nonsense.

                                Meanwhile all of my examples in the SERPs stand uncontradicted only dodged and weaved from. the charge that I see only one way of doing things is also false since I have on many occasions indicated that I will use profile backlinks (particularly business sites that offer profiles) but neither consider them strong nor particulalry valuable. Hence I would not pay $2,000 a year in order to get them. Thats the biggest difference. Oh and no I see no need to blast forum site owners in a spammy way.
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                                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                                  They can't be a Search Engine Optimizer?:rolleyes:
                                  That's your definition... not what it stands for.

                                  As for the rest of it... blah will have to play again later. I don't have time to cut and paste sections like you do to twist words... Well actually I have the time because of automation but I am tired... will have to do it some other time. I'm to lazy right now...
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                                    Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                                    That's your definition... not what it stands for.
                                    Really? :rolleyes: . You guys need to learn something about the industry you claim to practice in. Try reading the first line here

                                    Search Engine Optimization (SEO) - Webmaster Tools Help



                                    As for the rest of it... blah will have to play again later. I don't have time to cut and paste sections like you do to twist words.
                                    but you do do a mean duck and dodge. If we do play again at least address yourself to the serps. Even though you have officially disavowed yourself of being an SEO it still helps to not ignore the evidence against what you are claiming. Its downright overwhelming.
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                                      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post




                                      but you do do a mean duck and dodge. If we do play again at least address yourself to the serps. Even though you have officially disavowed yourself of being an SEO it still helps to not ignore the evidence against what you are claiming. Its downright overwhelming.
                                      He's not ducking and dodging, he just doesn't care what you think.

                                      There are enough clients on this forum and in the "real world" that know that he knows what he's talking about that he doesn't have to impress you...he doesn't even know who you are lulz

                                      I'm only posting to expose you as the hypocrite that you are...but, that is starting to get old.

                                      I'm going to spend the rest of my night studying definitions.
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                          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                          ROFL. Uh-huh. Now how many intelligent people have you convinced that as an Internet marketer you would not like to rank for the phrase "internet marketing". and none of your customers either right? LOL Dodge and weave baby. Dodge and weave. Cause God knows none of your customers like to blog either right?
                          $2,000 for SEnuke?

                          I personally pay $70 a month for a VPS with xrumer/senuke/AMR/scrapebox/TA/TBS/Ubot studios
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                            Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

                            $2,000 for SEnuke?

                            I personally pay $70 a month for a VPS with xrumer/senuke/AMR/scrapebox/TA/TBS/Ubot studios
                            Ummm I wouldn't go around saying that because some of those "offers" are boot and not sanctioned by the licensing.
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                              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                              Ummm I wouldn't go around saying that because some of those "offers" are boot and not sanctioned by the licensing.
                              Is the new definition of some "99.999%"?

                              To the OP it is true more people probably lose money on SEnuke than make money... but people get lazy and expect miracles. Having helped many people with X I know the amount of garbage people push through it and expect to get a ranking.
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                            Originally Posted by InTheMaking View Post

                            $2,000 for SEnuke?

                            I personally pay $70 a month for a VPS with xrumer/senuke/AMR/scrapebox/TA/TBS/Ubot studios
                            can I ask who with ?
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                  Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

                  Lol... smack PR5s down all the time with PR0s... You actually been testing this? Or just watching Matt Cutts videos?
                  smack em bro. Smack em. here go forth and rank

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                  What you doing here still? giddy up. Rev that VPS- VROOM VROOM. Go make some money . Jeremy has 45,0000 links to get you to number one . Do it. You got some sorry ole sites on that page with oh wow. Some have less than 500 links showing. quantity is all that matters right bros.? So whats up? Stop being a tweeners hanging out selling WSOs. Go for the pot of gold.

                  Between that and "internet marketing'" you should be living large smoking cubans. Senuke goin make all you homies line up the rolls royces withteh bling hanging round your necks . Just think after you finish those two serps and line up some more ALL of which are dominated by sites that have way less than Jeremy's 45,000 links you will be set.

                  Bella Vita baby!!
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                    How come everything with guys like you is COMING SOON--- This will be a game changer??? Just release it IF IT WORKS! I know DON & JEREMY release stuff that WORKS! I know they love to watch a train wreck too!!!!

                    HERE COMES THE CHOO CHOO..............

                    Mike,

                    Please do not try to get in a battle with me. I can prove you are being a keyboard tuff guy and not a real SEO or IM professional with the crap you talk. I on the other hand make 100% of my money on the internet! If I do not produce, I do not eat... I am a fat ******* these days so the STEAKS I have been eating --- AW FORGET IT---- Your just not worth the time arguing. Your right --- We are wrong... I will expect your copy of SEnuke is not being paid for. I expect your copy of Scrapebox has been scraped... Oh yeah, stop sending sites to MLB under that other email address for linking.... Thanks and have a great night!!!!
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                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    smack em bro. Smack em. here go forth and rank

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                    What you doing here still? giddy up. Rev that VPS- VROOM VROOM. Go make some money . Jeremy has 45,0000 links to get you to number one . Do it. You got some sorry ole sites on that page with oh wow. Some have less than 500 links showing. quantity is all that matters right bros.? So whats up? Stop being a tweeners hanging out selling WSOs. Go for the pot of gold.

                    Between that and "internet marketing'" you should be living large smoking cubans. Senuke goin make all you homies line up the rolls royces withteh bling hanging round your necks . Just think after you finish those two serps and line up some more ALL of which are dominated by sites that have way less than Jeremy's 45,000 links you will be set.

                    Bella Vita baby!!
                    lol... I can't compete with you you are da master of da PR4s!!!!

                    But I haven't seen any real info you yourself have provided in this thread. Other then waiting to make your sig go live for the almighty PR4s that will skyrocket everyone.

                    I already said how newbies could start to use things correctly earlier in this thread. You haven't said really much at all... So let's hear your strategies man! Unless I missed em in here... if so. By all means point me to them! I need help... You seem like you can be my savior!

                    But I have to be honest with you before you carry on in this thread. I only say **** to get people like you going. Your opinions don't mean anything to me. I feel no emotion when I reply... I just instigate... Text doesn't mean anything to me. Same reason why video will convert me to a sale more lol.
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              • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                LOL. Wasn't talking about one big authority site but you are just so into the forum spam thing how would you know what I was referring to?



                Well I do when it comes to links because if I put 20 PR 4s on a page I can rank for some serps where you can't even break onto page one.
                Here is a piece of advice that you NEED to take! NEVER go against DON or Jeremy in any type of --- I can rank this or that--- I promise you will LOSE! They both will smack any site you have down within a month and I am willing to bet on this.

                You have no idea what your taking about stating a dozen PR4 or PR5 links is better than 5,000 PR0 links... In fact, Right here, right now I can assure you that I just took one of my ATTORNEY offline clients and gave him 30k of backlinks and got him to rank about sites with PR8 backlinks!

                Please, if you want an opinion, have one in a manner that does not make you look like a fool. Don & Jeremy, besides the respect they EARNED on here, constantly PROVE beyond a doubt, they can rank or build or design the hottest products on the net!

                If you want to state that you find, or you can also try something this way or that way, your being considerate. If you want to state that this or that is junk from a WF MONSTER(s) than you just look like a fool!

                I am telling you from the outside, SEnuke, scrapebox, & Xrumer are the top 3 tools I use and I am getting content on page ONE. I have clients sites ranking well. I am getting new clients daily now.

                If these tools are used correctly, they will give you page one for what you need... If you do not like these tools, please go over to G@@gle and grease that butt for cutts and get it in deep!!!! I have never met a liar as good as MATT THE LIAR CUTTS!!!!!
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by BestSEO View Post

                  Here is a piece of advice that you NEED to take! NEVER go against DON or Jeremy in any type of --- I can rank this or that--- I promise you will LOSE! They both will smack any site you have down within a month and I am willing to bet on this.
                  You'd lose bro because the truth of the matter is in the real world of business I would smack any backlinker SenukeX profiler out the park with a simple spam report if it came down to that which it wouldn't. Ever heard of JC penney? LOL. real world you can't going crying to mommy that your competitor turned you out for breaking the rules.

                  You have no idea what your taking about stating a dozen PR4 or PR5 links is better than 5,000 PR0 links... In fact, Right here, right now I can assure you that I just took one of my ATTORNEY offline clients and gave him 30k of backlinks and got him to rank about sites with PR8 backlinks!
                  Hey then take up my challenge in the post above . go forth and rank for internet marketing bro. Of course you can rank over a PR8 site even with PR 9 backlinks if they are targeting another keywords in their profiles. Duh. But no I was talking about profile junky links particularly forum that you will not find any page ranking for in a TRULY competitive serp. Thats right I said TRULY competitive serp not some long tail junk, or something that no real business is going after. When the front page is really competitive you almost never see forum backlinks playing any role in ranking unless they are propped up by REAL links.

                  Go spend some times in the serps rather than reading WSOs. Whatever your teachers taught you (beyond hero worship) There is a greater SEO world outside of profile backlinking blasting spam and its threads like this that look foolish to REAL professional SEOs. So be my guest spend $4,000 over the next two years for the privilege of arranging your PR n/as in a magical order.

                  And no I have no problem looking like a fool to you because I know the glasses you wear. It doesn't phase me. Its actually kind of funny since you have no clue of what I do merely because I don't do SEO WSOs.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    You'd lose bro because the truth of the matter is in the real world of business I would smack any backlinker SenukeX profiler out the park with a simple spam report if it came down to that which it wouldn't. Ever heard of JC penney? LOL. real world you can't going crying to mommy that your competitor turned you out for breaking the rules.

                    Hey then take up my challenge in the post above . go forth and rank for internet marketing bro. Of course you can rank over a PR8 site even with PR 9 backlinks if they are targeting another keywords in their profiles. Duh. But no I was talking about profile junky links particularly forum that you will not find any page ranking for in a TRULY competitive serp. Thats right I said TRULY competitive serp not some long tail junk, or something that no real business is going after. When the front page is really competitive you almost never see forum backlinks playing any role in ranking unless they are propped up by REAL links.

                    Go spend some times in the serps rather than reading WSOs. Whatever your teachers taught you (beyond hero worship) There is a greater SEO world outside of profile backlinking blasting spam and its threads like this that look foolish to REAL professional SEOs. So be my guest spend $4,000 over the next two years for the privilege of arranging your PR n/as in a magical order.

                    And no I have no problem looking like a fool to you because I know the glasses you wear. It doesn't phase me. Its actually kind of funny since you have no clue of what I do merely because I don't do SEO WSOs.

                    I asked if you were related to MATT or if you worked with G**gle.... Forget asking, I am stating clearly you are in bed with them and are married to them and you are clearly ON THEIR JOCK STRAP!!!!

                    As for ranking for Internet Marketer? WHY? I want to rank for BUSINESS that makes me money... I do not sell SEO WSO's.... I go to real companies and make their sites go UP UP UP in the serps and oh yeah, I get paid very well for it. THOUSANDS of dollars monthly PER client....

                    I rank for what IS SEARCHED and if that is a long tail or single letter, I go for it.... You rank for ass kisser of the year at G**gle and that is CLEAR from your posts... What is not clear here is, your opinion how to rank anything! I know it is not 25 PR4 backlinks and to the top you go!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                    I would smack any backlinker SenukeX profiler out the park with a simple spam report
                    So your a snitch? lol

                    Dude, I'm not sure what event in your life has given you the "god" complex that you have, but it might be time to get over yourself a bit.

                    You obviously just have a hard on for SENUKE...because you would gladly recommend tools such as MagicSubmitter which do pretty much the same thing.

                    There are several ways to get the end result that we are all looking for. There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way.

                    P.S. I once ranked for the highly sought after phrase of "why does it burn when I pee" - But only in quotes.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                      Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                      So your a snitch? lol
                      The usual whine when the realities of the real world face us. You abide by no one elses standard of ethics in regard to forum spam blasts so its useless to claim that anyone should abide by your "ethical" standards. Its a hollow bellow. You build a second floor against the building code without a permit and block your neighbors light out then he is going to and has all right to report you. Welcome to the post adolescent world. Mind you it doesn't come down to that anyway. Take a look at some serps like the ones I have shown your comrade. The truth is only in the weaker terms do profile backlinks even come into play in most of the competitive serps. fact

                      so $2,000 a year for that? Not worth it. As for the other whining? the thread is about whether Senuke is worth it or not. Why should there only be your views or those who agree with you? This isn't a WSO
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                      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                        Here we go again....

                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        The usual whine when the realities of the real world face us.
                        Yup, we should all become snitches Your such a role model, Mike.

                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        You abide by no one elses standard of ethics in regard to forum spam blasts so its useless to claim that anyone should abide by your "ethical" standards.
                        I've never spammed a forum in my life, so watch what you say hypocrite. If I remember correctly, it wasn't long ago that you were selling LISTS OF FORUMS for people to put backlinks on...and a semi-automated solution to speed up the process.

                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        Its a hollow bellow. You build a second floor against the building code without a permit and block your neighbors light out then he is going to and has all right to report you. Welcome to the post adolescent world. Mind you it doesn't come down to that anyway. Take a look at some serps like the ones I have shown your comrade. The truth is only in the weaker terms do profile backlinks even come into play in most of the competitive serps. fact
                        Snitch.

                        Mike, nobody cares what you're doing, where you've been, or where you're going...I certainly don't. I think your advice is garbage, and I would rather be dick rolled than to talk serious SEO with you.

                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        so $2,000 a year for that? Not worth it. As for the other whining? the thread is about whether Senuke is worth it or not. Why should there only be your views or those who agree with you? This isn't a WSO
                        You keep saying "profile links" - SENUKE obviously does more than profile links. You've made it quite clear from the beginning that you don't like the program, the problem is that you pick select things to go after and more times than not, you are wrong in what you say.

                        Like I said earlier, you have in the past gladly recommended other tools such as Magic Submitter WHICH DO THE SAME THING....Yet somehow, SENUKE is a spam tool?

                        Like I said, get over yourself already.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                          Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post


                          Yup, we should all become snitches Your such a role model, Mike.
                          Like I said you have no qualifications to be heard on that matter. You of all people questioning me on role model is quite funny though.


                          Mike, nobody cares what you're doing, where you've been, or where you're going...I certainly don't.
                          Good then move along. You are expending alot of typing for someone who doesn't. Have a good night too..



                          - SENUKE obviously does more than profile links. You've made it quite clear from the beginning that you don't like the program, the problem is that you pick select things to go after and more times than not, you are wrong in what you say.
                          SenukeX has historically been more about profile links and forums. you can try and sell otherwise to the newbies. It still of all kinds of links has more that than anything else.

                          Like I said earlier, you have in the past gladly recommended other tools such as Magic Submitter WHICH DO THE SAME THING....Yet somehow, SENUKE is a spam tool?
                          Perhaps one day you might look up at the top of the page and see that the thread is about the worth as in cost of Senuke. With Magic submitter you can spam as well. Since you CAN add your own links you do not HAVE to but does MS costs what SEnuke does? How would that affect a discussion about worth you think?
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                          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post



                            SenukeX has historically been more about profile links and forums. you can try and sell otherwise to the newbies. It still of all kinds of links has more that than anything else.

                            Fail again, broham.

                            The profile links weren't added into the program until after it was over a year old or so...Then THE OTHER PROGRAMS pretty much copied the way they did things.

                            It's OK to just admit your a hater, Mike. I couldn't think any less of you anyway.

                            Here's the thing, Mike...You always act as if you have something to "prove"...I'm on a skype channel with about 12 people right now all posting links to different things you've said and done...

                            Like how you say that forum profiles are spam...yet you used to sell them as well as a tool to automate the process.

                            Like how you call tools like SENUKE spam tools, yet recommend tools that do the same thing.

                            Like how you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

                            Like how you recommend AMR in this thread...which spams article directories.

                            Like how you recommend BMD which spams social bookmarking sites

                            Then you cry about spam... lol

                            Durrrrrrrrr...I'm Mike...the only way to do SEO is to use high PR domains that you own.............durrrrrrrrr

                            You are comedy relief in it's truest form

                            At the end of the day, how you run your business makes not a bit of difference to me...seriously, I don't care what you do. I just find it humerous that you admit that the way you beat competitors who use links that you say are worthless...is to turn them into Google in the form of a spam report (LOL) if the links are so useless, why would anyone ever be in a position where you would need to report them?

                            I know that you think your **** doesn't stink dude, but your past and present posts and actions prove otherwise, and I'm going to leave it at that.

                            Feel free to repeat yourself again.

                            TO ANSWER THE OP THOUGH - SENUKE IS WORTH IT IF YOU MAKE MORE THAN WHAT YOU SPEND ON IT.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                              Like how you say that forum profiles are spam...yet you used to sell them as well as a tool to automate the process.
                              :rolleyes: In another discussion last weak I flat out told people openly I used to sell profiles. Hiding it? get real. I just awhile ago told you I will still do some mostly profile backlinks from business sites that offer it. So tell the skype crew to break another news story. Like one thats news!

                              Frankly profiles used to do a whole lot better. So I offer better now and your stuck in the same rut. How does that make paying $2,000 a year for mostly PR N/A links worth it? You know the subject of the thread. oh and tell your 12 disciples hi for me. lol


                              At the end of the day, how you run your business makes not a bit of difference to me...seriously, I don't care what you do.
                              ROFL I know man Its like I am the one on Skype with the 12 people fixated on you.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                              "TO ANSWER THE OP THOUGH - SENUKE IS WORTH IT IF YOU SELL IT MORE THAN WHAT YOU SPEND ON IT."

                              There I have corrected it for you
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerDeen
    WOW it really surpirse me me when someone ask such question but it proves how things work online, no matter how good your software,product or service is you can still find people nagging about it on forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
    I really want to buy a WSO and if you can prove to me that your PR4's are as good or better than my PR-ZERO's and PR/NA's I will gladly buy it! I also want it to be hands off after I set it up and hit the GO BUTTON!!!!

    Get ready.......... I am sure it will change the game forever! I am sure that it will make my site rank number #1 out of a gazillion!!!!! And web 2.0 is just junk so I am throwing them out as well.....

    Mark, are you related to MATT? Or do you work with G**gle on the down low??? It seems that you feel those SUGGESTIONS that they make are the laws of the net and you need to follow them or the G**gle police will get you!!!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by BestSEO View Post

      I really want to buy a WSO
      Whose offering a WSO either now or in the future? LOL. Or for that matter PR4s? because I gave an example of PR4s? You guys and your little box with blinders on. Come out and smell the rest of the world. The whole Seo world does not shop in or sell out of the Warriors for Hire section and the WSO section. Wake up. Snap out of the trance man..

      and if you can prove to me that your PR4's are as good or better than my PR-ZERO's and PR/NA's I will gladly buy it!
      LOL. UM BEST SEO is the handle and you need it to be proven to you that a PR4 link is better than a PR N/A? This is hilarious stuff. Stop. Wheres the hidden camera? Ashton I swear you are not going to get me again!

      Get ready.......... I am sure it will change the game forever! I am sure that it will make my site rank number #1 out of a gazillion!!!!! And web 2.0 is just junk so I am throwing them out as well.....
      No man . Notice the sig mentions quality. You are safe man.
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      • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Whose offering a WSO either now or in the future? LOL. Or for that matter PR4s? because I gave an example of PR4s? You guys and your little box with blinders on. Come out and smell the rest of the world. The whole Seo world does not shop in or sell out of the Warriors for Hire section and the WSO section. Wake up. Snap out of the trance man..



        LOL. UM BEST SEO is the handle and you need it to be proven to you that a PR4 link is better than a PR N/A? This is hilarious stuff. Stop. Wheres the hidden camera? Ashton I swear you are not going to get me again!



        No man . Notice the sig mentions quality. You are safe man.
        Now you have tried to tell me that the whole world does not shop on WF.... You know I have not been on here for almost two weeks. I hire tards like YOU to work for me! If you think your PR456789 is going to outrank my sites with a million PR/na--- I have a bridge in Brooklyn you need to buy from me!!!! You are smoking crack! Just rmember little boy, HE WHO HAS THE MOST BACKLINKS WINS!!!! FACT!!!!!!!!!!!
        He who has the most PR4 links is just G**gle under cover in WF kissing up to the boss!
        You are the under cover--- Stay home and rank for junk while I continue to make a good living!!! Oh yeah, it got better today with TWO more start up checks!

        now go to bed it is past your bedtime little boy... US MEN have work to do!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
          Originally Posted by BestSEO View Post

          Now you have tried to tell me that the whole world does not shop on WF.... You know I have not been on here for almost two weeks. I hire tards like YOU to work for me! If you think your PR456789 is going to outrank my sites with a million PR/na--- I have a bridge in Brooklyn you need to buy from me!!!! You are smoking crack! Just rmember little boy, HE WHO HAS THE MOST BACKLINKS WINS!!!! FACT!!!!!!!!!!!
          He who has the most PR4 links is just G**gle under cover in WF kissing up to the boss!
          You are the under cover--- Stay home and rank for junk while I continue to make a good living!!! Oh yeah, it got better today with TWO more start up checks!

          now go to bed it is past your bedtime little boy... US MEN have work to do!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
          Quality > quantity.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by BestSEO View Post

          Now you have tried to tell me that the whole world does not shop on WF.... You know I have not been on here for almost two weeks. I hire tards like YOU to work for me!
          A) I'm booked
          B) Adsense would have to triple their rates for you to afford me - for an hour.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    Well this is turning into a cock measuring contest.
    Lets have a good ole fashion seo competition. Mike #1 vs BestSEO.

    My money's on Mike.
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      Well this is turning into a cock measuring contest.
      Look at the size of that cock on the left!

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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Ofcourse with any auto software, it does take some time getting used to its features to find the value in them
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  • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
    Since when is SPAM posts on a forum??? Let me check WIKI???

    Spam may refer to:

    OPPS... Mike, your snitch ass is yet, WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

    PS--- When G**gle becomes a legal-law enforcement agency, then they can make rules and laws that are to be abided by and a COURT will enforce.... Otherwise it is a for profit corp that you are NUT HUGGING with!!!!

    I am done with this as, I have money to make and you are just a guy who thinks he is so damn smart yet, shows his butt with his keyboard....
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by BestSEO View Post

      Since when is SPAM posts on a forum??? Let me check WIKI???

      hmmmm, let me check "wiki" for you....here you go

      Spam (electronic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      Forum spam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Okay class that completes tonights lesson. For homework please read the assigned links and remember we could have a pop quiz on any of the course material at anytime - particularly the pagerank sections and why a N/A is different and not equal to a 4. Remember that these quizzes will count up to 30% of your final grade. Classes will resume in the morning and have a great night.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
    It's a little bit silly to call Mike "full of himself" because he has an opinion you disagree with. This is supposed to be a debate about whether SenukeX is worth the steep price tag. It's more than fair to criticize the cons of SenukeX.

    Also, it's extremely ridiculous to make the argument that quantity of links is all that matters. To paraphrase, Zerofill's comment was "the page that has the most backlinks wins"... "FACT!"

    Seriously.... If that argument were accurate, then 10 high Pr backlinks would provide just as much link juice as 10 n/a profile backlinks. I would love to see that case study.

    I also don't get the comparisons to Matt Cutts philosophy. It's quite common to believe that high PR backlinks are more valuable than low PR backlinks. Matt cutts doesn't want a webmaster to create backlinks at all. And he would especially be against creating a network of sites with PR. Which is what Mike was advocating for as an alternative.

    On the one hand, you guys are accusing Mike of being too clean cut and following google's guidelines. And on the other you are accusing him of being a hypocrite and a spammer as well. Make up your minds people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew S
    SENuke X as it stands now is a jack of all trades tool that doesn't do any 1 thing particularly well. I have VAs armed with BMD, AMR, and some other tools on a VPS so keeping my sub after the free trial would have been redundant for me. I could see it being very useful for a 1 man operation, though.

    To the people derailing the thread with the argument about PR vs non-PR links, what an utterly moronic apples vs oranges back n forth that has become. Your job as an SEO is to get as many diverse links as possible which includes everything you've argued in favor of and against.

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    SEnuke will be worthless if you don't use the indexer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pobman
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      SEnuke will be worthless if you don't use the indexer.
      and that should be moving to customized anchors soon... at last.
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  • Profile picture of the author bengcoleman
    Good thread. Thanks for the pro's and con's and even the banter.

    I bought SENukeX and just haven't taken the time to learn it. It is NOT newbie friendly AT ALL! From an ROI perspective, it doesn't cut it for me....at least at this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinemarketer23
    Hi buddy,

    senuke and their development team are a very reputed and prestigious guys.. but the point here is .. the following .. can you afford the monthly fees? is it within your own budget? .. I hope this questions help you clear up your mind on this (-:

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author drumguru69
    I would have to say that it is pretty obvious that building links the "old fashioned" way is much better and that is the way I prefer to do most of my link building... However, I would be lying If I said that I didn't use software like SENUKEX and Magic Submitter (its main competitor at much lower cost). I use magic submitter almost primarily for the social bookmarking module.... but it is ok for article marketing also...

    Overall.... post relevant, quality content....but on a lazy day.... blast out to a few social bookmarking sites and article directories...
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    Originally Posted by Seofarmer View Post

    4. Web 2.0 / forum profile
    - In terms of 'forum account creation', i dont think it is nearly as good as Xrumer. The are a great deal of 'potential' web 2.0 properties missing from the list - where they have to be done manual anyways.

    Xrumer / Manaul instead?
    I'd stay as far away from XRumer as possible, and not build forum profiles unless you fill em with pictures and a bunch of content.

    Panda sort of killed this strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneZenMaster
    It is worth it if you use it right, by very gradually building linking. Too much *like 10 full runs in a day* at once and your a** is in the sandbox.

    It is worth it in the long run though, because it'll give your page the killer off page seo you need to dominate the competition for potentially profitable niche sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh MacDonald
    Invest in another tool. Don't buy SENuke X
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    If you haven't used x for more than 2 months. I don't believe you can comment. Regular updates make it ever changing. I only pay $80/month so its affordable for me. And I already made my yearly cost back.

    If it doesn't work for you then you haven't had enough time or training.

    The reviews above are simple just wrong and from a newb perspective.

    The tool is powerful and useful if you know how to use it.

    Let's say you wanna rank every page of your site. You gonna outsource all that? You wanna talk about cost?

    An example of a power user is one who uses x to build web properties and fill it up with content. Then using the tool to go back and link wheel them.

    An example of a newb user is using the tool to build one page properties and not re using the same accounts to build a bigger property within same niche.

    That's just one example.

    Do you need it? Only if you manage many sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      If you haven't used x for more than 2 months. I don't believe you can comment. Regular updates make it ever changing. I only pay $80/month so its affordable for me. And I already made my yearly cost back.
      SenukeX monthly fee is 127$ as i remember, how can you pay only 80$ ?
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      • Profile picture of the author boxoun
        Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

        SenukeX monthly fee is 127$ as i remember, how can you pay only 80$ ?
        I took the trial. Realized how powerful it was and support was great. Went with the yearly price after doing some math and realizing it would help with me 100 site goal. Clicked the pay button.

        I only take time to comment here just in case someone is on the fence and want to hear from a user who uses it everyday since day 1.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      If you haven't used x for more than 2 months. I don't believe you can comment................If it doesn't work for you then you haven't had enough time or training.
      The reviews above are simple just wrong and from a newb perspective.it.
      Thats utterly false. What? does SenukeX now give you high authority rather than N/A links? No it doesn't. they can update it ten times a day and it still won't. Its fine to give your impression but to claim anyone else that doesn't like it doesn't know anything or a newb is flat out nonsense.

      I can take that $1,000 you spent and smoke you. and then take the $1200 or more you spend next year and smoke you some more and the year after that and that. So if you like it and it works for you fine but no not everyone who doesn't like it is just because they are new to it. There are fundamental weakness to any such piece of software because of the limited kinds of links they can give you and at the cost many people have an objective sound reason not to invest that much into those kinds of links given other alternatives.

      I'll give Senukex another run round when you can add your own link opportunities instead of just hitting the same sites over and over that everyone else is trying to get their money's worth out of. However other competitors are not standing still and update their software also some at vastly cheaper prices.
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      • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Thats utterly false. What? does SenukeX now give you high authority rather than N/A links? No it doesn't. they can update it ten times a day and it still won't. Its fine to give your impression but to claim anyone else that doesn't like it doesn't know anything or a newb is flat out nonsense.

        I can take that $1,000 you spent and smoke you. and then take the $1200 or more you spend next year and smoke you some more and the year after that and that. So if you like it and it works for you fine but no not everyone who doesn't like it is just because they are new to it. There are fundamental weakness to any such piece of software because of the limited kinds of links they can give you and at the cost many people have an objective sound reason not to invest that much into those kinds of links given other alternatives.

        I'll give Senukex another run round when you can add your own link opportunities instead of just hitting the same sites over and over that everyone else is trying to get their money's worth out of. However other competitors are not standing still and update their software also some at vastly cheaper prices.
        Hi Mike
        I can't give any positive or negative comment about senukex as i didn't try it. im kind of newbie but honestly i found alot of ppl in IM community talking about this software and they say it's better than alot of other softwares and alot of them not recommending to use it alone in your seo process and i agree about it's high price

        from your comments i guess that you tried this software and you didn't like it very much, i think you found other solution that gives you better results than senukex does

        Can i ask to share it ? , your experience may be helpful for me
        Thanks in advance
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post



          from your comments i guess that you tried this software and you didn't like it very much, i think you found other solution that gives you better results than senukex does

          Can i ask to share it ? , your experience may be helpful for me
          Thanks in advance
          Hi Mahmoud. yes I did. I thought at the price I would at least be able to add my own sites (besides forum profiles) instead of having to use the same sites being blasted to kingdom come by all the other users (and they often are link service blasters doing it for scores if not hundreds of their own customers). fail.

          All these software products leave links on pages that are weak in any authority. By PR they are all N/As. They are so weak half the time you have to buy other software and links just for Google to see that they exist. My problem with Senuke is that you should never be paying anywhere near $2000 for these kinds of links. Period. You can get Bookmarking software for around a hundred dollars one time that comes with more opportunities than SEnuke has in that area. You can buy Article marketing robot for under a hundred dollars one time with far more article opportunities and if you want an all in one with the campaign manager there now is Magic submitter on the horizon for like half the cost (Recently began beta testing their version 2.0).

          People buy the nonsense that if you arrange the weak NA links in some magical patterns it turns puny N/A links into Superman or the incredible Hulk. Its a marketing lie. The truth is is you will almost always want to do one of three things.

          A) Send all the junk links straight to your money site (if you just don't give a rip in your niche).
          B) Send all your other links to your article/ Press releases/blogs because they have content and you can get contextual links which google considers editorial and then link to your money site
          C) send a mix of A and B

          Edit: I should add that in addition to those three major choices because these links are so weak you will want to chain some of the links for indexing purposes if you don't have another way of getting them indexed.

          Sending your article and press release links to forum and bookmark sites and then to your money site would be stupid. So the whole campain charting is of much less value than the sellers and affiliates of this are claiming but if it makes your life a little bit more relaxing Magic submitter has it already in beta at half the cost.

          Bottom line is skip the marketing hype. Its driven by affiliates that convince their followers that its the next best thing since slice bread. Weak N/A links work only in weak serps and there are far better ways of building a high authority kingdom with $2,000 per year.
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          • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Hi Mahmoud. yes I did. I thought at the price I would at least be able to add my own sites (besides forum profiles) instead of having to use the same sites being blasted to kingdom come by all the other users (and they often are link service blasters doing it for scores if not hundreds of their own customers). fail.

            All these software products leave links on pages that are weak in any authority. By PR they are all N/As. They are so weak half the time you have to buy other software and links just for Google to see that they exist. My problem with Senuke is that you should never be paying anywhere near $2000 for these kinds of links. Period. You can get Bookmarking software for around a hundred dollars one time that comes with more opportunities than SEnuke has in that area. You can buy Article marketing robot for under a hundred dollars one time with far more article opportunities and if you want an all in one with the campaign manager there now is Magic submitter on the horizon for like half the cost (Recently began beta testing their version 2.0).

            People buy the nonsense that if you arrange the weak NA links in some magical patterns it turns puny N/A links into Superman or the incredible Hulk. Its a marketing lie. The truth is is you will almost always want to do one of three things.

            A) Send all the junk links straight to your money site (if you just don't give a rip in your niche).
            B) Send all your other links to your article/ Press releases/blogs because they have content and you can get contextual links which google considers editorial and then link to your money site
            C) send a mix of A and B

            Sending your article and press release links to forum and bookmark sites and then to your money site would be stupid. So the whole campain charting is of much less value than the sellers and affiliates of this are claiming but if it makes your life a little bit more relaxing Magic submitter has it already in beta at half the cost.

            Bottom line is skip the marketing hype. Its driven by affiliates that convince their followers that its the next best thing since slice bread. Weak N/A links work only in weak serps and there are far better ways of building a high authority kingdom with $2,000 per year.
            Thanks for your helpful post
            but can you share your link building strategy that you are using instead of senuke ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by humaira View Post

      total absolute waste of money actually got me to about $50-80/day within a month and a half.
      lol. then why run around on WF trying to build up your post count? get senuke "the world's first money making machine":rolleyes: to double your money only this time make it legal tender not Parker Brother's Monopoly cash. By the way I am willing to trade Board walk and Reading Railroad. I prefer the orange and red properties. People land on them all the time - better conversions. Your turn to roll.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    I really want to find an answer for this

    If i'm promoting a website using senuke x and i run a campaign in senuke x for that website and i got backlinks from all senuke sites , what is the the benefit from running another campaign for the same site using senuke while i will get backlinks from the same sites as the first campaign as in this case there is no ip diversity ?
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    • Profile picture of the author retsek
      Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

      I really want to find an answer for this

      If i'm promoting a website using senuke x and i run a campaign in senuke x for that website and i got backlinks from all senuke sites , what is the the benefit from running another campaign for the same site using senuke while i will get backlinks from the same sites as the first campaign as in this case there is no ip diversity ?
      You ask a good question my friend, and it is the reason I find SENuke Not worth it after months of using it.

      The rabid fans of this program will tell you that you can add your own profile sites. But profile links are weaker than they once were. For them to be effective now, you need a ton of them. Not the few 300~ unique ones Senuke will give you.

      I suggest you spend your $127 a month elsewhere. There are far more effective services out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    mahmnoud that depends entirely on your budget. If You need a smaller outlay per month then you could go with Magic submitter and get much the same setup PLUS the ability to add your own sites which last time I checked Senuke could not do outside of forum profiles. With the money you saved you could acquire links with real PR and authority and then as the authority in your own sites grow leverage those to open opportunity with other webmasters even in the forum here just for that

    Warrior Reciprocal Links - Buy - Sell - Swap!

    getting even more quality links. All kinds of better ways to spend the cash and with those links I don't have to go running around trying to get them indexed. They get indexed in time naturally. Me personally? Sorry I don't get into all my strategies but the one I just gave you is better by far than paying Senuke and their affiliates nearly $2,000 per year or even $1200 if you were crazy enough to consider a yearly license.
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  • Profile picture of the author glennforum
    Full automation as being offered by SENUKE sometimes gives a bad effect on to your website, you run the risk of being banned or suspended also i've heard that some of those sites that are in SENUKES database like the social bookmarks are not all functioning, I think it would be better to do your backlinks manually or if you could find a better tool then maybe do it semi-manually.
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    • Profile picture of the author UrbanKlass
      Why were people arguing? Isn't one of the biggest parts of success positivity?? - Perhaps you should try to avoid negative confrontations in future, everybody has their own views and opinions. Arguing and attempting to put somebody down isn't going to change their mind. All it does is allow those around you to see your insecurities and weaknesses.

      As for SEnuke X - the monthly cost, add $10-30 on top and you can outsource the tiresome SEO jobs to a decent up-and-comer.

      If somebody's used SEnuke and can use it effectively and efficiently then I say "great!" - but if you're on the fence because you had the trial and you weren't sure, I'd say forget it and outsource it. You could essentially find a bunch of Fiverr gigs offering plenty of what you need (look for quality) and still spend under the monthly cost. I'd say a 'reasonable' price for this software is either a one time fee of 120-150 OR monthly fee of 15-20...
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    You guys over analyzing $2000 price. If you have a lot of sites we can assume you are making money to justify monthly . If you have 5 sites all you need is two months so to keep throwing out $2000 price point is ridiculous. If you have 50-100 then it would be dumb not to go with yearly membership. Once again, making the $2000 price point moot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      boxoun if you don't know how to put $2,000 to better use with a 40-100 site network then thats fine just don't assume that no one else does. Claiming that anyone that doesn't see it your way is a newb or doesn't know what they are talking about is nonsense. My sites can make $200,000 a month I would spend the money building the authority of my sites not sending a punch of PR0 and N/a links at it.

      So make your review and leave it there without claiming every one that disagrees with you is a newb and wrong because you don't know more effective ways to build links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Balti
    It sounds like senukeX hasn't changed much from the previous version. The main drawback is how often does this software get updated, can it keep up with the Google & SE updates? it seems that the only advantage this tool got is saving some time and effort from going back and forth between the different methods/sites used in the SEO process but is it worth the price?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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    senuke x v2.0 launches next week........every module has been converted to sockets, OCR integration, ability to add own sites etc etc etc.......basically is totally changed since it first launched 4 months ago.

    whether this is worth the money? too an experience marketer........yes, to a noob that is still learning the ropes NO..
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

      senuke x v2.0 launches next week........every module has been converted to sockets, OCR integration, ability to add own sites etc etc etc.......basically is totally changed since it first launched 4 months ago.
      Haven't seen anything about 2.0 being able to add your own sites (seems like it still requires programmers to add anything but forum profiles). If thats the case that would be a good step forward however Magic submitter 2.0 now has a pretty intuitive campaign manager, can add any site (including entirely new platforms that you can use the scheduler/ campaign module with as well) - at half the price .

      Nice thing is that other programmers have not been standing still. Still have options.
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  • Profile picture of the author guitarjosh
    Senuke says they'll also be bringing back the "one-time fee for life" for 48 hours after the release of the new version next week. That might be worth it to some folks.. though this fee is likely to be thousands.
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  • Profile picture of the author amujtabaa
    I'm sorry but you must be mistaken. When I bought SEnuke X I was drunken with power. If you can convert traffic into profit then it is correctly stated as a "money printing machine." The beauty comes with the scheduling system and project linking interface. You can check out the website for the exact details.
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  • SEO should be done manually, as the time of link submission is also counted
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  • Are you kidding me? Like it was said above, why get multiple programs to do essentially the same thing SEnuke x does? It's an awesome and pusshes all my sites and clients sites to page one of the big G regularly.
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  • Profile picture of the author ricklomas
    I use it, and...I love it. The strength for me is to not go too heavy with one massive campaign, but to do daily nukes and increase them over time. That gives awesome and persistent domination of the SERPs.
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