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15 years ago

Originally Posted by cyberdenizen

Just found out that one of my favorite keyword research tools is gone. Does anybody know any substitute for Google Wonder Wheel? Is there any similar keyword tool that you can suggest?

Market Samurai's keyword tool is very good.

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cyberdenizen 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Will Leighton

Market Samurai's keyword tool is very good.

Yes, it is, but I want something like Google Wonder Wheel. There's nothing quite like it.
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nicktyler

15 years ago

Theres loads of keyword tools free and paid. If you liked the Google wonder wheel then you might like the google keyword tool.

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brettb

15 years ago

Are you sure? It didn't always show for some queries. Maybe it's gone for good though, which would be sad.

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cyberdenizen 15 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

Are you sure? It didn't always show for some queries. Maybe it's gone for good though, which would be sad.

I just read this:

Google Drops Real Time Search, Wonder Wheel, Image Search Features & More

Yes, it's sad.
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Dr.faizan

15 years ago

Market Samurai..

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CPA Andrew

15 years ago

This sucks! This was actually the way google wanted you to get ranked unlike many other methods this is how I got a ton of sites ranked 1st because they actually gave you the related keywords they thought were suitable. Guess we'll have to see what happens now.

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owenlee

15 years ago

is back to "content is kind" era?haha

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Josh MacDonald 15 years ago

Originally Posted by owenlee

is back to "content is kind" era?haha

You mean "Content Is King"?
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JSProjects

15 years ago

The Wonderwheel was great for finding LSI keywords. I'm hoping it comes back in some shape or form. (I'm guessing Google looked at the statistics and found that it mainly being used by marketers.)

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yukon

Banned 15 years ago

I've always been surprised that Google allows the Google keyword tool to be public, without a credit card purchase (Adwords).

Don't they realize that tool alone is what thousands of IMers do keyword research with, without ever considering paying for Adwords?

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Marty Foley

15 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I've always been surprised that Google allows the Google keyword tool to be public, without a credit card purchase (Adwords).

Don't they realize that tool alone is what thousands of IMers do keyword research with, without ever considering paying for Adwords?

They're smarter than you might think, realizing that giving things away for free (with the right approach) can & will grow their business.

For an eye-opener about this trend, check out the book: "Free: The Future of a Radical Price", by Chris Anderson. It discusses how this strategy is used by Google & other smart companies.

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hashbury

15 years ago

Originally Posted by cyberdenizen

Just found out that one of my favorite keyword research tools is gone. Does anybody know any substitute for Google Wonder Wheel? Is there any similar keyword tool that you can suggest?

I have been using keyword sniper instead of the wonder wheel for some time now. It doesnt really get related or lsi keywords, it scrapes the suggestions when you are typing in a serch term into google.

It works really well if you know what suffixes and pefixes to use with it.

There was also some other program called Keyword Snatcher I think, It wasnt the same as wonder wheel but it worked ok. I think its discontinued now though.

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KabanaSoft

15 years ago

yea i just noticed the wonder wheel is gone too

....so pretty much all keyword research tools that relied on this as a keyword source are now broken.

Don't think anyone has mentioned it yet, but google insights is a decent tool, though not a replacement for the wonder wheel. Search for google insights for a link.

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DIGITALCHAMELEON

15 years ago

Sad to hear that Wonder Wheel is one of my favorite too now that its gone I rather use Google keyword tool.

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KabanaSoft

15 years ago

i agree with Marty, if they don't offer the keywords for free that you have to buy to advertise on anyways, then no one would use it. That would be almost like having to pay at the door to get into the grocery store.

Thanks for the link to that book, sounds real interesting...will have to order it

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Marty Foley 15 years ago

Originally Posted by KabanaSoft

Thanks for the link to that book, sounds real interesting...will have to order it

A quick Google search turned up a number of PDF versions for free download. Here's a link to one: http://s3.amazonaws.com/files.poster...lFBrIzotnHM%3D

Update: The above is just an excerpt. The author offered it the full book as a free download, though I don't know if he does any longer.
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bsb85my

15 years ago

Wonder wheel is a good tool to find LSI keywords. Now it's gone and this is sad.

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KabanaSoft

15 years ago

thanks for the link and info marty on getting the book for free...unfortunately the link you gave isn't working, getting some error, but i was able to find it elsewhere (sorry can't post links yet but google the book and download and you'll find it)

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Charles Harper

15 years ago

You can use

http://lsikeywords.com

Also, you can use Jack Duncan's Ultimate Keyword Theme Extractor.

I got one before it aged and matured and it was pretty cheap.

I don't know if it still is; but Jack does RSS for his name so maybe he will see this and chime in the thread.

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Charles Harper

15 years ago

Also, my buddy Dave did a post on some things that Google Correlate does to satisfy the urge:

Goodbye Wonder Wheel, Hello Google Correlate.

Warning though, this is not lightweight reading.

CT

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cctvinstallers 15 years ago

Possibly use related searches instead ?
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emigre

15 years ago

Wonder wheel is gone but its results are the same as "Searches related to..." at the bottom of the page.

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15 years ago

I suggest Market Samurai. It's a shame that the wonder wheel is gone

it was a good kw research tool.

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Charles Harper 15 years ago

I know that the stated reason was so that they could brand everything appropriately. However, I am going out on a limb (don't stone me for this).

If you were to go back over this video that I am sure you have all seen 1000 times now and talked about

How Google's Panda Update Changed SEO Best Practices Forever - Whiteboard Friday | SEOmoz

It would seem to me that they do want to encourage writing for keyword searches; and that they want to encourage good content writing. To that end, the Wonder Wheel does not anything that you can't get with the "Related Searches" tab.

Related Searches at several glances does not seem as thematic as the Wonder Wheel. So I think using it, to get the theme of a keyword; you are losing something there.

And it is also my guess that it could change based on results from Google Instant. It might be nice for some one to run a linear regression model to see how many times google instant words can be found in the related searches area.

Long shot theory I know.

CT
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